Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[martybegan]

Exactly. There wasn't a lie, the correction was that Trump didn't literally say one sentence or something -

The lie is that the post claimed that literally said something he didnt say

That would only be a lie if they knew what they published wasn't true. They relied on verifiable sources. So prove they lied...

They heard what they wanted to hear, asked the person to pinky swear it was the truth, and ran with the story.

From verifiable sources. What newspaper doesn't do that?

"verifiable"

They wanted to believe the worst about Trump, and then ran with it. Meanwhile a Dem story would have been held without direct confirmation.

Yes, verifiable. It came from the deputy Secretary of State. Who by the way, is Republican.

They probably just verified the phone call happened, and didn't get into details because they had their ORANGE MAN BAD story and didn't need anything else.

Again, they got the story from Georgia's Republican deputy Secretary of State who got the story directly from the investigator Trump called. Who knows why you think that's not a reliable source?

Evidently it was completely unreliable.

And again, verification was probably only about the people involved, and that a call took place.

Not really since Trump did say those things. Just not in those exact words.

"Fake but accurate"

You morons really need to get a better playbook.

Dumbfuck, he said if they look at signatures they will find they don't match from prior elections. That would be him saying find the fraud. The WP quoted him saying, "find the fraud." While he didn't use those words, that is what he said.

His actual words were that he believed there was fraud and that the person should investigate. The false statement implied that he was directing them to "find" fraud, not investigate the potential for it.

The two versions are entirely different in intent.

He asked her to look at signatures from a prior election to compare with signatures from the 2020 election. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling other than yourself?

"But if you go back two years, and if you can get to Fulton, you are going to find things that are going to be unbelievable."​

That's a lot different than the fishing expedition "find the fraud" implies.

 

[Mac-7]

Regardless, they didn't have the audio back then when they first ran the story. They only had the people involved recalling the phone call.

Whats it called when someone writes a check for money they dont have in the bank?

 

[Mac-7]

And I asked for proof that I had been fooled by anything.

You accepted the lie as the truth

that means you were fooled

 

[Dragonlady]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Is he though? As teh lies you people used to get rid of him are revealed, why should he not come back?

Let him come on back.

Revenge Tour 2024.

I guess the racist are really going to ramp it up.

Democratic Party = Anti-White

The Democrat Party is what 75% white, so that makes about as much sense as you do.

No it's not. Also those are NOT white people. Just a bunch of goddamn idiots.

So the real white folks are Trump Humpers.

Whites can be anti-white racists. It is called self hatred. I have seen it personally.

So to be a real white person you have to be a Republican Trump Humper.

Obviously not, you drooling retard.

But you have to deny racism or its effect on minorities to be a "real" white person. You can't say that "black lives matter". Or even believe it.

 

[Mac1958]

And I asked for proof that I had been fooled by anything.

So far, nothing. As I expected.

Meaning you knew the WAPO quotes were a lie but decided to use them to bash trump anyway?

I never thought you would stoop that low

Still nothing.

You won't be able to put me on the defensive based on your lies and fantasies, sorry.

 

[Mac-7]

You still have zero evidence they lied.

We have WAPOs confession that the quotes were false

that makes them liars

 

[Mac-7]

Still nothing.

You won't be able to put me on the defensive based on your lies and fantasies, sorry.

You make a great Joey Bishop

but trump voters are not Imogene Coca

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[Coyote]

No, it make you the liar. Again, lying is saying something known to be a lie. You failed to produce any evidence they lied, as opposed to being wrong. You continue to call them the liar but that only makes you the liar.

WAPO affirmed the quotes and presented them to the public as facts

That means you were lied to

No. They presented them as statements from a source. When the actual tape was provided, they appropriately printed a correction. The correction does not actually alter the significant issue presented by the call, which Georgia to launch an investigation.

It's ironic because when your favered rightwing media prints lies, they seldom print retractions.

 

[Coyote]

You still have zero evidence they lied.

We have WAPOs confession that the quotes were false

that makes them liars

No it doesn't. If they knew ahead of time it was false, thenyes. But the tape wasn't found until after the article so they couldn't have known.

 

[progressive hunter]

No, it make you the liar. Again, lying is saying something known to be a lie. You failed to produce any evidence they lied, as opposed to being wrong. You continue to call them the liar but that only makes you the liar.

WAPO affirmed the quotes and presented them to the public as facts

That means you were lied to

No. They presented them as statements from a source. When the actual tape was provided, they appropriately printed a correction. The correction does not actually alter the significant issue presented by the call, which Georgia to launch an investigation.

It's ironic because when your favered rightwing media prints lies, they seldom print retractions.

that makes it worse that they printed something they couldnt verify,, thats the poster child of fake news,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

You still have zero evidence they lied.

We have WAPOs confession that the quotes were false

that makes them liars

No it doesn't. If they knew ahead of time it was false, thenyes. But the tape wasn't found until after the article so they couldn't have known.

if they didnt know they shouldnt have printed it,, thats the first rule of journalism,,

 

[Coyote]

You still have zero evidence they lied.

We have WAPOs confession that the quotes were false

that makes them liars

No it doesn't. If they knew ahead of time it was false, thenyes. But the tape wasn't found until after the article so they couldn't have known.

if they didnt know they shouldnt have printed it,, thats the first rule of journalism,,

They shouldnt have claimed as verbatim but they did andthey didthe right thing by issuing a correction

 

[Correll]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Is he though? As teh lies you people used to get rid of him are revealed, why should he not come back?

Let him come on back.

Revenge Tour 2024.

I guess the racist are really going to ramp it up.

Democratic Party = Anti-White

The Democrat Party is what 75% white, so that makes about as much sense as you do.

No it's not. Also those are NOT white people. Just a bunch of goddamn idiots.

So the real white folks are Trump Humpers.

81% of Republican Party is white. Democrats at 59% and dropping.

What the 2020 electorate looks like by party, race and ethnicity, age, education and religion

What does the 2020 electorate look like politically, demographically and religiously as the race enters its final days?

www.pewresearch.org

Well we know who the party of racism is.

Yep, the party that pushed polices that openly discriminate against people based on race, the Democrats.

You're right 50yrs ago, but the party of racist today is the Republican Party.

Name one current policy that teh gop supports that discriminates based on race.

Changes being made to State Voter Laws for starters.

Meanwhile, the Dems support dozens of policies that discriminate against whites, and in favor of blacks and browns.

Name some of them

You lose.

America loses.

1. Weak bullshit. Blacks can get ids. If you are that worried about it, and the laws pass, you can help the really infirm or really stupid get ids.

2. Disparate Impact Theory. Used to, or leads to massive discrimination by employers and administrators across the entire nation.

Disparate impact - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[progressive hunter]

You still have zero evidence they lied.

We have WAPOs confession that the quotes were false

that makes them liars

No it doesn't. If they knew ahead of time it was false, thenyes. But the tape wasn't found until after the article so they couldn't have known.

if they didnt know they shouldnt have printed it,, thats the first rule of journalism,,

They shouldnt have claimed as verbatim but they did andthey didthe right thing by issuing a correction

the right thing to do is not print something you cant verify,,

you making excuses like this is beyond pathetic,,,

 

[Billiejeens]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Democrats stole the election. It was in the bag.

That racist arrogance is just the reason he lost.

That's why Biden never campaigned. He knew mail-in ballots fraud was coming. Senile turd spoke at two drive-in's theaters in Pennsylvania. Trump drew thousands to his events and got more votes than any incumbent in history...and lost? My ass.

Trump drew thousands of morons to come out and cheer and act a fool, the only rally that matters is on Election Day.

Look boy
Trump had more legal votes
the end.

 

[Mac1958]

No, it make you the liar. Again, lying is saying something known to be a lie. You failed to produce any evidence they lied, as opposed to being wrong. You continue to call them the liar but that only makes you the liar.

WAPO affirmed the quotes and presented them to the public as facts

That means you were lied to

No. They presented them as statements from a source. When the actual tape was provided, they appropriately printed a correction. The correction does not actually alter the significant issue presented by the call, which Georgia to launch an investigation.

It's ironic because when your favered rightwing media prints lies, they seldom print retractions.

Well, they don't need to. The flock doesn't care.

 

[Coyote]

No, it make you the liar. Again, lying is saying something known to be a lie. You failed to produce any evidence they lied, as opposed to being wrong. You continue to call them the liar but that only makes you the liar.

WAPO affirmed the quotes and presented them to the public as facts

That means you were lied to

No. They presented them as statements from a source. When the actual tape was provided, they appropriately printed a correction. The correction does not actually alter the significant issue presented by the call, which Georgia to launch an investigation.

It's ironic because when your favered rightwing media prints lies, they seldom print retractions.

that makes it worse that they printed something they couldnt verify,, thats the poster child of fake news,,,

No it isnt. You are trying to claim that any error is fake news ... the claim was mostly factual, the exact verbage was wrong.. .yet people seem more upset at a paper printing a correctionthen at inaporopriatness of the xall itself.

Fake news, it seems to me, is willfully falsified.

 

[marvin martian]

You still have zero evidence they lied.

We have WAPOs confession that the quotes were false

that makes them liars

Even better, all the other media outlets who lied and said they "confirmed" the phony quotes have now implicated themselves, as well:

Numerous Liberal Outlets Claimed to Independently Verify Debunked WaPo Story

I guess not....

bongino.com

• NBC News reported it “confirmed The Post’s characterization of the Dec. 23 call through a source familiar with the conversation.”
• USA Today claimed a “Georgia official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters confirmed the details of the call.”
• ABC News reported: “President Donald Trump phoned a chief investigator in Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office asking the official to ‘find the fraud’ and telling this person they would be a ‘national hero’ for it, an individual familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC News.”
• PBS NewsHour and CNN likewise appeared to claim they independently “confirmed” the story through their own anonymous sources.

 

[progressive hunter]

No, it make you the liar. Again, lying is saying something known to be a lie. You failed to produce any evidence they lied, as opposed to being wrong. You continue to call them the liar but that only makes you the liar.

WAPO affirmed the quotes and presented them to the public as facts

That means you were lied to

No. They presented them as statements from a source. When the actual tape was provided, they appropriately printed a correction. The correction does not actually alter the significant issue presented by the call, which Georgia to launch an investigation.

It's ironic because when your favered rightwing media prints lies, they seldom print retractions.

that makes it worse that they printed something they couldnt verify,, thats the poster child of fake news,,,

No it isnt. You are trying to claim that any error is fake news ... the claim was mostly factual, the exact verbage was wrong.. .yet people seem more upset at a paper printing a correctionthen at inaporopriatness of the xall itself.

Fake news, it seems to me, is willfully falsified.

the claim was fake news,,,

but please keep making excuses for it,, its fun to watch you spin like a top,, you might want to calm down though,, your typing is horrendous,,

 

[Coyote]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Democrats stole the election. It was in the bag.

That racist arrogance is just the reason he lost.

That's why Biden never campaigned. He knew mail-in ballots fraud was coming. Senile turd spoke at two drive-in's theaters in Pennsylvania. Trump drew thousands to his events and got more votes than any incumbent in history...and lost? My ass.

Trump drew thousands of morons to come out and cheer and act a fool, the only rally that matters is on Election Day.

Look boy
Trump had more legal votes
the end.

Sure.

Fact is...those legal votes fired his corrupt ass and not even his pet AG could "fix" the votes for him.