Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[AzogtheDefiler]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations.

How is that when there are more whites on welfare and Section *.

We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Nobody wants to mainstream with racist trash like you. Thank God most white americans are not like white racist folks like you.

African Americans are only 13% of the population. There should be more whites on welfare.

What % of black folks are on welfare and if there are more whites on it, how in the hell is it reparations for black folks?

When did I say it was reparations? Affirmative Action certainly is.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations.

How is that when there are more whites on welfare and Section *.

We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Nobody wants to mainstream with racist trash like you. Thank God most white americans are not like white racist folks like you.

African Americans are only 13% of the population. There should be more whites on welfare.

African Americans are only 13% of the population.

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

More African Americans killed due to abortion since 1970 than were born during the same time frame.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

The President of the United States has no legal authority over the Georgia Secretary of State.
Therefore, there was no crime, just a request. It's not fraud because nobody was deceived and nobody lost anything. Biden is not yet President and won't be until Jan 20. Many Americans feel the election was fraudulently stolen by Democrats. Finally, if you believe what the New York Slime and Washington Pest tell you, you need a reality check.

Its a crime for anyone to bring pressure or intimidation to an election. Don't even pretend you know more than a lawyer or any respectable news outlet.

Show us that law. Show is where it is illegal for the President to call a Secretary of State and argue with him about the election count. I attended law school for one year and was a Legal Officer in the US Navy for 4 years. They taught us how to do legal research, which is obviously beyond you.

In Georgia, a person who “solicits, requests, commands, importunes or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage” in election fraud." is guilty of a crime:

Georgia Code § 21-2-604 (2019) - Criminal solicitation to ...

2019 Georgia Code :: Title 21 - Elections

Justia Free Databases of US Laws, Codes & Statutes

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...
(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage …

Engage in what? Trump asked the guy to reexamine the votes. That's perfectly legal.
Trump was not in Georgia and is not a resident of Georgia. I doubt Georgia law even applies to him.

You actually think one needs to ba a RESIDENT of a state to break its laws??

That must explain all those wacko drivers around the Atlanta interstates going 100mph. They're not residents so they're "immune".




What Rump asked for was for them to "FIND" 11,780 votes. "Find" as an active verb, as in "come up with". This after the entire vote had been counted and recounted and CERTIFIED. Matter of fact not only were they certified but the state already cast its electoral votes on their basis. He's asking them to come up with votes THAT DO NOT EXIST.

He's asking them to break the law. Just as he tried to shake down those Michigan state officials. For the same reason.

This is all predictable established pattern at this point. The only thing new here is we have the recording of his voice doing it.

I am not following your logic

 

[Dragonlady]

What is the problem? We have a right to see and scan those ballots. The SOS is abusing his power to cover up the obvious fraud.

Tuesday News Roundup: Assange Asylum, Georgia Shenanigans and Ron DeSantis 2024 – DB DAILY UPDATE

What do you mean by 'scan the ballots?'.
Where is you evidence of obvious fraud?

Scan the ballots. The scan can tell if they are illegal or legal by many reference points. Even the make of the paper and where it was printed. The evidence is obviously in the things Democrats and Republicans are withholding. That would be the ballots and the machines from forensic audits. But, besides that, there are many data studies that show mathematical impossibilities.

The ballots have been scanned - more than once. No one is "withholding evidence", and or forensic information. Data studies are bullshit. The ONLY THING that matters is the ballot counts and certifications.

The rest is lies.;

 

[Pogo]

I would say that every black person alive in the USA today has been impacted by slavery, even if their families were never slaves.

Of course you would say that, because you are an idiot.

By the way, the only people that should pay them any reparations are Democrats, since they were the ones who ideologically and historically fight for slavery.

How about the confederate states pay it, even though they they're mostly Republican-led states now, since they seceded in their failed attempt to preserve the institution of slavery codified in their Constitution?

Because they are Republican now. Dems were the slave owners. Time for you Dems to own it.

There were no Democrats in 1776, or the 150 years before 1776 when slavery existed in the USA.

Point of clarification, it's actually 250 years, exactly. The first captive African slaves brought to the North American continent, at what is now South Carolina, were transported there by one Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón at a settlement he called San Miguel de Gualdape, in 1526. The Democratic Party of course wasn't established until over three hundred years later, over which timespan African Slavery grew exponentially in North, South and Central America and the Caribbean, amazingly without any need for "Democrats" or any other political party.

 

[Pogo]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

The President of the United States has no legal authority over the Georgia Secretary of State.
Therefore, there was no crime, just a request. It's not fraud because nobody was deceived and nobody lost anything. Biden is not yet President and won't be until Jan 20. Many Americans feel the election was fraudulently stolen by Democrats. Finally, if you believe what the New York Slime and Washington Pest tell you, you need a reality check.

Its a crime for anyone to bring pressure or intimidation to an election. Don't even pretend you know more than a lawyer or any respectable news outlet.

Show us that law. Show is where it is illegal for the President to call a Secretary of State and argue with him about the election count. I attended law school for one year and was a Legal Officer in the US Navy for 4 years. They taught us how to do legal research, which is obviously beyond you.

In Georgia, a person who “solicits, requests, commands, importunes or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage” in election fraud." is guilty of a crime:

Georgia Code § 21-2-604 (2019) - Criminal solicitation to ...

2019 Georgia Code :: Title 21 - Elections

Justia Free Databases of US Laws, Codes & Statutes

law.justia.com

...
(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage …

Engage in what? Trump asked the guy to reexamine the votes. That's perfectly legal.
Trump was not in Georgia and is not a resident of Georgia. I doubt Georgia law even applies to him.

You actually think one needs to ba a RESIDENT of a state to break its laws??

That must explain all those wacko drivers around the Atlanta interstates going 100mph. They're not residents so they're "immune".




What Rump asked for was for them to "FIND" 11,780 votes. "Find" as an active verb, as in "come up with". This after the entire vote had been counted and recounted and CERTIFIED. Matter of fact not only were they certified but the state already cast its electoral votes on their basis. He's asking them to come up with votes THAT DO NOT EXIST.

He's asking them to break the law. Just as he tried to shake down those Michigan state officials. For the same reason.

This is all predictable established pattern at this point. The only thing new here is we have the recording of his voice doing it.

I am not following your logic

It wasn't your post. But if you read the post quoted, that's what I address.

 

[Dragonlady]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations.

How is that when there are more whites on welfare and Section *.

We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Nobody wants to mainstream with racist trash like you. Thank God most white americans are not like white racist folks like you.

African Americans are only 13% of the population. There should be more whites on welfare.

African Americans are only 13% of the population.

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

More African Americans killed due to abortion since 1970 than were born during the same time frame.

And that's a complete lie. This is why I would never want to take any kind of business advice from a fool like you. You don't know jack shit, and what you do know is so very wrong.

Florida Republican says abortion providers have 'reduced our black population by more than 25 percent since 1973'

While debating abortion rights, a Republican Florida House member made a startling claim: Doctors who perform abortions

www.politifact.com

 

[Dr Grump]

Scan the ballots. The scan can tell if they are illegal or legal by many reference points. Even the make of the paper and where it was printed. The evidence is obviously in the things Democrats and Republicans are withholding. That would be the ballots and the machines from forensic audits. But, besides that, there are many data studies that show mathematical impossibilities.

Why not do that for every election at every level? Maybe the president will get sworn in...eventually. At the end of the day, Georgia is a republican stronghold. Their people have not only certified the election, but gone out of their way to find things wrong with it, and come up with nothing.

Tell me, don't you find it telling in the tape that one of the Georgian officials ASKS REPEATEDLY for Trump to send the information through and evidence they have? Not in a smarmy way, but in a true, honest way. They have basically said, 'send us the evidence and we'll absolutely investigate it'. Trump's answer? "Don't need to because we know there was fraud". If you know, won't be hard to provide the evidence will it.

Don't you think it just weird? Forget about the politics of it. Don't you think it strange that a state actually has offered to help Trump if he sends through the evidence and he refuses to do so???

 

[Pogo]

Trump trusted Jews.

That was his #1 biggest error as President.

I thought you like Trump?

It is sad that we as Americans have disintegrated into YOU MUST AGREE 100% etc....

I disagree with Trump around 40% of the time.

I disagree with anyone who says Trump is a "bad guy" because he isn't a "bad guy." Low IQ Joe is a bad guy, which is why you love him....

But Trump hired Jewish doctors, lawyers and accountants because he said Jews excel at those jobs. He knows better than you, right?

"I have black guys counting my [casino] money. I hate it. The only people I want counting my money are short guys who wear yarmulkes every day".

 

[Dr Grump]

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

oh, God, you don't even know basic maths...

 

[Lastamender]

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

oh, God, you don't even know basic maths...

Are you telling me the black population in a hundred years remains the same? They should be growing in number. I don't know what kind of math you think is involved. It defies common sense. That is what abortion has done.

 

[Pogo]

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Reparations are an idiotic concept, impossible to legally or realistically administer.

And it's useful to see that the Irish aren't demanding reparations from England for over one million deaths during the Great Famine nor are Armenians demanding reparations from Turkey, despite the attempt to exterminate them nor are Jews demanding reparations from Germany for the Holocaust.

No. Only in America where the left has systematically brainwashed blacks to foster their dependency on
the democrat party are reparations still even discussed with any seriousness at all. U.S. public more aware of racial inequality but still rejects reparations: Reuters/Ipsos polling

It says something about that 20% that thinks they are all owed for mistreatment hundreds of years in
this nation's rear view mirrors. And of course the whites that encourage this dependency are complicit
in a cruel hoax that is designed to still enslave blacks.

"Only in America", yes. "Only in the United States Thereof".............. no.

>> The Atlantic slave trade had long-lasting repercussions and today many of the affected people and countries are seeking some form of reparations from their former enslavers.​

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Caribbean nations not long ago agreed to seek slavery reparations from Europe, for example. The Caribbean Community (Caricom) gave the okay to a 10-point plan for reparations and declared that European governments in addition to being responsible for conducting slavery and genocide, also imposed 100 years of racial apartheid and suffering on freed slaves and the survivors of genocide, reports Reuters.​

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Caricom seeks a full formal apology for slavery, repatriation to Africa, a development plan for the native Caribbean people as well as funding for cultural institutions. It also points out the need to address chronic diseases and psychological rehabilitation for trauma inflicted by slavery, among other items.​

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Caricom has planned a conference in London later this summer [2014] for European and Caribbean nations to discuss the issues. If the complaint is rejected by the European nations, Caricom will take their individual cases to the International Court of Justice.​

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In America meanwhile the debate about reparations surges on. Many think the United States should compensate its African-American citizens for the injustices suffered by their slave ancestors. And a group of noted lawyers and scholars have created a group called the Reparations Coordinating Committee to focus on the institutions it believes have profited from slavery, reports ABC News. As far as the government approving reparations, that seems a long way off as Congress has consistently rejected bills calling for merely a study on the issue.​

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But over in Brazil they have made some strides in the issue of reparations. In fact, its Quilombo Movement may actually be the world’s largest slavery reparations program. Luiz Pinto lobbies for the land rights of people who live in communities that were founded by runaway slaves. These communities are known as “quilombos” and according to Brazilian law, residents of quilombos have a constitutional right to land settled by their ancestors. The law is one thing, the reality is another. Pinto is working to make sure the quilombos get their rights. << --- Brazil Has the World's Largest Slave Reparations Program​

You see Cupcake, the fact that you haven't heard of something, because you didn't bother to look, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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[Dr Grump]

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

oh, God, you don't even know basic maths...

Are you telling me the black population in a hundred years remains the same? They should be growing in number. I don't know what kind of math you think is involved. It defies common sense. That is what abortion has done.

Okay, I'll do it for you.
100 years ago the population of the US was 106 million. Blacks made up about 13 per cent of the population. That is about 14 million people
Fast forward 100 years and the US has a population of 330 million and blacks still make up 13 per cent. That is, 42 million people.

Now, you were talking about abortion and how the black population has stayed the same. I don't know how you do maths stateside, but 42 million people is 28 million more than 14 million...

 

[BluesLegend]

The ballots have been scanned - more than once.

The ballots have not been forensically examined to confirm they are real vs fake. Don't worry the GOP has hired a forensic expert to examine this. It's pretty easy to determine which are valid ballots, mailed out, completed by a human vs the fake batch printed election fraud ballots. Dem's are shitting their pants.

 

[Lastamender]

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

oh, God, you don't even know basic maths...

Are you telling me the black population in a hundred years remains the same? They should be growing in number. I don't know what kind of math you think is involved. It defies common sense. That is what abortion has done.

Okay, I'll do it for you.
100 years ago the population of the US was 106 million. Blacks made up about 13 per cent of the population. That is about 14 million people
Fast forward 100 years and the US has a population of 330 million and blacks still make up 13 per cent. That is, 42 million people.

Now, you were talking about abortion and how the black population has stayed the same. I don't know how you do maths stateside, but 42 million people is 28 million more than 14 million...

Let me ask you how many more blacks would there be without legal abortion. Abortion was designed to do this. Also putting them, PP, in the inner cities for accessibility is the systematic racism here.

 

[Dr Grump]

The ballots have been scanned - more than once.

The ballots have not been forensically examined to confirm they are real vs fake. Don't worry the GOP has hired a forensic expert to examine this. It's pretty easy to determine which are valid ballots, mailed out, completed by a human vs the fake batch printed election fraud ballots. Dem's are shitting their pants.

No they're not. In Georgia, the SOS and all around him are Repubs. So, as per usual, you're full of shit. And I doubt they are shitting their pants. More like frustrated at having to deal with not only dumbarses, but dumbarses that are part of their party.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations.

How is that when there are more whites on welfare and Section *.

We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Nobody wants to mainstream with racist trash like you. Thank God most white americans are not like white racist folks like you.

African Americans are only 13% of the population. There should be more whites on welfare.

African Americans are only 13% of the population.

And they have been about that for one hundred years. What does that tell you about abortion?

Doesn't tell me anything, whites have immigrated to this country since the 1800s, how many black folks immigrated to this country in that period?

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump trusted Jews.

That was his #1 biggest error as President.

I thought you like Trump?

It is sad that we as Americans have disintegrated into YOU MUST AGREE 100% etc....

I disagree with Trump around 40% of the time.

I disagree with anyone who says Trump is a "bad guy" because he isn't a "bad guy." Low IQ Joe is a bad guy, which is why you love him....

A man who assaults and rapes women, takes babies from their parents, and calls people insulting names "isn't a bad guy", he's a monster. His lies about the election alone, are destructive and he knows it.

 

[WEATHER53]

Name calling profanity and arm flailing emotion is always a sure sign that another government dependent darkie has been bested

 

[Pogo]

Simple way to put it.

Trump sprays air freshener and he will be accused of smelling up the room.

Obama farts and he will be thanked for adding a nice refreshing aroma to the room.

Are you people truly so naïve where you are unable to see how anyone can take the words of a person and turn them against that person and then take the same exact words of another person and apply them to praise that person?

Really? You truly don't see that?

Well...then bad for you.

Then why did Rump wig out when the recording surfaced?

Oopsie.