Was there more Anti Muslims after 9/11?

[karpenter]

I noticed in the documentary that he had a Muslim who laugh in the documentary during the attack on the towers.f Notre-Dame in Paris.
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[Carl in Michigan]

As you can tell from her response, she thinks tossing gay people off roof tops is funny.

No surprise there. She treats any objection to her people raping British children in the same manner.

She has one saving grace. She loves animals. Too bad she can't sympathise with those suffering under the cult of Islam

It's all an act.

It is all about advancing Islam .

Back to your previous statement.

Would you discriminate against Muslims?
Or, to use PC lingo: would you prevent Muslims from practicing their faith?

If they are not people, what are they?

I read the thread. He DID NOT SAY "Muslims are not people."

What's your point? Pedophiles are people. Will you allow them to practice their beliefs?

Well then...why is he going through so many contortions to avoid answering a simple question?

Acknowledging them as people means acknowledging they have the same rights, protections and freedoms as any other people on this country.

I can't speak for anyone else but myself.

I answered your "brilliant" question and asked one of you myself. But you cannot answer. Why is that?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes, the Muslim world was not celebrating on 9-11.

You cannot be helped, but you show the world the foolishness of the American liberal

No. They were not. We received a lot of support from and condemnations of the acts of the perpetrators from many Muslim leaders, clerics and groups. It doesn’t matter though. You would still say the same.

And you know this is true, how?

What ABC News Footage Shows of 9/11 Celebrations

And you know this is true, how?

Where is all the footage of these celebrations?

You know what, a LOT of it that we all saw a few years ago has been REMOVED. Of course you will deny that.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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[Coyote]

No. They were not. We received a lot of support from and condemnations of the acts of the perpetrators from many Muslim leaders, clerics and groups. It doesn’t matter though. You would still say the same.

And you know this is true, how?

What ABC News Footage Shows of 9/11 Celebrations

And you know this is true, how?

Where is all the footage of these celebrations?

You know what, a LOT of it that we all saw a few years ago has been REMOVED. Of course you will deny that.

How convenient.

 

[Dalia]

The question that was asked by a French presenter was to say that all Arabs are not bad because they believe in God the religion of peace and they kill in the name of God, they are not bad, .all the Arabs are the same , all put in the same bag and they deserves forgiveness that is the proper question he asked which mean that they are excused for their actions and to said even more that the Christians they are wicked even if the fanatical Arabs who kill in the name of god the other Arabs who are Christians themselves that what leftists believe that the fault always goes to the conservative because they express their anger that's why there's so much injustice to westerners.
And that's why after the Sept. 11, 2001 all leftists have minimized the attacks like all attacks in the world ... it's still the same song never a word against the terrorists which proves that they are behind them. which is frankly disgusting

 

[Dogmaphobe]

She has one saving grace. She loves animals. Too bad she can't sympathise with those suffering under the cult of Islam

I am not the topic. Bear that in mind please.

When you ask questions, you become part of the topic, just as I am.

You, as a person, are not topic. What you say here, is. Just as what I say here is. If you are going to derail tbe thread by making it about me and not the topic then that is problematic.

I made you look like a fool and that is what bothers you.

Are you telling me I can't disagree with you when you make stupid statements?

NOBODY gets your point, "are Muslims people?" Again, what the hell is your point? Nazis are people too. Rapists are people too.

What you are lacking is the question was asked of a person who said they are not people. You jumped in like a half assed idiot who didn’t bother to follow the conversation.

You can disagree with me all you like. No problem there. But if you are going to derail the thread by making it about me, that is a different matter. Same would apply if I tried to derail by making it about you.

You are stupid and you are a liar.

No wonder you serve Islam like you do.



I never said Muslims are not people .I pointed out that I prefer to discuss Islam as an ideology and later on when you made your usual childish, bullying demands, I said Muslims are people who follow the supremacist doctrine called Islam.

I must say, that whatever it is that you do every year on 911, it certainly does reinforce your Islamist belligerence.

 

[eagle1462010]

After 9/11 there of course were more people pissed off at Muslims in General. Yes.

Were we Polarized from the attack against our country? Of course...........

Does that mean we put all Muslims in the same category as the terrorists? Of course NOT..........

Muslim apologist always play the game being played on this thread...........You hate all Muslims...........are they people......blah blah blah...............we don't hate them all.............we don't blame them all...............But we understand that the Islamic Muslim Culture have MANY PEOPLE who go to the DARK SIDE OF ISLAM..................The Radical Islamic side.............And there are millions of them..............whether it be 5% or 10% of the entire Muslim population of over a Billion people........it's a lot of people..................period.

Which ones coming here are the good guys..........which are the bad ones................How do you vet them...........will they accept our culture or DEMAND WE ACCEPT THEIRS.............The Shariah courts....................

Face it.............the hard Islamic principles are NOT COMPATIBLE TO OUR CULTURE..............and bring many here is a mistake...................as Europe has learned the Hard Way...................

They have a culture that is their own...................let them live in a place where that is accepted.............not here........We don't need that BS.

 

[harmonica]

more cautious of muslims than hate--a natural and ''smart'' reaction

 

[Dalia]

Yes. Unfortunately, they also gained more supporters as well. The U.S. no longer has the will to resist importing 5th columnists or deporting the known ones, as Thomas Jefferson and most of the Founders would have done, and did. We even have an entire economic and academic elite here that is actively and deliberately building up Red China at our expense, backed by both Parties' establishments, hence the full court press to smear Trump and get rid of him. France has seen this before as well, hence its number of Republics. Never thought the day would come when I missed De Gaulle as a leader in the Big Four, but now I do.

Picaro, their biggest supporters are the leftists, how can they have forget and forgive what happened on September 11, 2001 ? They must not have consciousness and heart to act as if it does not matter, that's what the morons of leftists do.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

When you ask questions, you become part of the topic, just as I am.

You, as a person, are not topic. What you say here, is. Just as what I say here is. If you are going to derail tbe thread by making it about me and not the topic then that is problematic.

I made you look like a fool and that is what bothers you.

Are you telling me I can't disagree with you when you make stupid statements?

NOBODY gets your point, "are Muslims people?" Again, what the hell is your point? Nazis are people too. Rapists are people too.

What you are lacking is the question was asked of a person who said they are not people. You jumped in like a half assed idiot who didn’t bother to follow the conversation.

You can disagree with me all you like. No problem there. But if you are going to derail the thread by making it about me, that is a different matter. Same would apply if I tried to derail by making it about you.

You are stupid and you are a liar.

No wonder you serve Islam like you do.



I never said Muslims are not people .I pointed out that I prefer to discuss Islam as an ideology and later on when you made your usual childish, bullying demands, I said Muslims are people who follow the supremacist doctrine called Islam.

I must say, that whatever it is that you do every year on 911, it certainly does reinforce your Islamist belligerence.

I wonder if she argues with her side when they justify violence against "nazis." Is her argument "so nazis aren't people?"

No, she doesnt make that silly argument among her own kind.

If I were to bring up Nazi ideology, we sure wouldn't be having this same conversation, that's for sure.

I happen to be opposed to the all-encompassing ideology of Islam because its central purpose is to replace all other ideogies and cultures with Islam. This is entirely incomparable with our Western culture.

Why that should be especially arguable is beyond me, much less the maniacal and overly zealous way in which it is being supported.

It smacks of severe mental instability to me.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

"There are good people on both sides" is the leftist mindset. Unless, of course, if Donald Trump says that.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

"There are good people on both sides" is the leftist mindset. Unless, of course, if Donald Trump says that.

One problem I see in terms of perception, no doubt muddied by the insane apologists, is that the best Muslims are the ones who believe in it the least, while the worst Muslims are those who believe in it the most.

This is the complete opposite of Christianity, where those who follow Jesus' teachings the most are the best Christians, while those who ignore them are the worst.

 

[Coyote]

I am not the topic. Bear that in mind please.

When you ask questions, you become part of the topic, just as I am.

You, as a person, are not topic. What you say here, is. Just as what I say here is. If you are going to derail tbe thread by making it about me and not the topic then that is problematic.

I made you look like a fool and that is what bothers you.

Are you telling me I can't disagree with you when you make stupid statements?

NOBODY gets your point, "are Muslims people?" Again, what the hell is your point? Nazis are people too. Rapists are people too.

What you are lacking is the question was asked of a person who said they are not people. You jumped in like a half assed idiot who didn’t bother to follow the conversation.

You can disagree with me all you like. No problem there. But if you are going to derail the thread by making it about me, that is a different matter. Same would apply if I tried to derail by making it about you.

You are stupid and you are a liar.

No wonder you serve Islam like you do.



I never said Muslims are not people .I pointed out that I prefer to discuss Islam as an ideology and later on when you made your usual childish, bullying demands, I said Muslims are people who follow the supremacist doctrine called Islam.

I must say, that whatever it is that you do every year on 911, it certainly does reinforce your Islamist belligerence.

You said you prefer not to call them a people. Go back and read your post. Then rethink who is a liar.

“I’m prefer to think on terms of Islam as an ideology rather than Muslims as a people.”

You serve hatred and bigotry in every post you make about Muslims. You are coy and dodge and deflect whenever directly confronted with your own words.

You call direct questions on your words “childish bugling demands”. Why? You made the statements. Are simple questions asking you to clarify your position now “bullying”? Goodness, I recall you accusing me of dodging questions in the past.

It is people like you who sent the refugees of the St. Louis back to Europe. It is people you who’s attitudes inspire people like the gunman who murdered 50 people at mosques in New Zealand.

If Muslims aren’t people or a people...what are they? The answers to those questions and the systemic dehumanization of a people in this way is exactly what leads to persecution, discrimination, and at it’s worst, genocide. It starts with ideas, words, campaigns of rhetoric and fear. You know where it ends. Look at the topic title. Is there more anti Muslim since 911?

The answer is simple. Yes. There is. People are afraid. Their way of life is changing, jobs are gone, the globalization of economies and even cultures leave people worried and desperate to protect what they see as their cultural values under attack by masses of impoverished immigrants. But this isn’t new. At the turn of the century, America was inundated with a flood of poor Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. They attacked for their consertive religious traditions (most American Jews were either of Sephardic origin, who came over in the 1600’s, or from Germany, who had come over in the 1840’s) where most of American Jews were reform. They were attacked for being dirty, breeding like rabbits, and bringing “dangerously radical“ ideas of equality and workers rights (socialism and communism). There is a parallel trend going on now, against Muslims. But you don’t want to see it because you are in the midst of fomenting it.

Then it was communism, now it is Jihad. Even though most, then and now, just want to make a life, raise their families and experience opportunities and freedoms they never had in their home countries.

So if Muslims aren’t people or a people what are they?

If you do not believe in religious freedom in this country, what do you propose for our nation’s Muslims? Banning mosques? Outlawing the Quran? A national registry? Microchips or tattoos? Barring them from elected office?

These are all reasonable questions, yet you characterize it as bullying”. Is your position so dicey you are unwilling to explore it?

Feel free to ask me similar questions. I don’t have a problem answering or defending, or, if the argument is persuasive, reconsidering my views.

 

[Coyote]

Yes. Unfortunately, they also gained more supporters as well. The U.S. no longer has the will to resist importing 5th columnists or deporting the known ones, as Thomas Jefferson and most of the Founders would have done, and did. We even have an entire economic and academic elite here that is actively and deliberately building up Red China at our expense, backed by both Parties' establishments, hence the full court press to smear Trump and get rid of him. France has seen this before as well, hence its number of Republics. Never thought the day would come when I missed De Gaulle as a leader in the Big Four, but now I do.

Picaro, their biggest supporters are the leftists, how can they have forget and forgive what happened on September 11, 2001 ? They must not have consciousness and heart to act as if it does not matter, that's what the morons of leftists do.

Forget and forgive? No.

But I do not blame all Muslims for the actions of a few terrorists.

You do not replace one evil with another.

 

[Coyote]

"There are good people on both sides" is the leftist mindset. Unless, of course, if Donald Trump says that.

Yet, he only made that remark in regards to a clash with white supremacists and their counter demonstrators. Not to any thing with Muslims.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

"There are good people on both sides" is the leftist mindset. Unless, of course, if Donald Trump says that.

One problem I see in terms of perception, no doubt muddied by the insane apologists, is that the best Muslims are the ones who believe in it the least, while the worst Muslims are those who believe in it the most.

This is the complete opposite of Christianity, where those who follow Jesus' teachings the most are the best Christians, while those who ignore them are the worst.

Yep. Serious hardcore Muslims follow the example of the "perfect man" MudHamMud. He was the polar opposite of Jesus Christ. THAT is why the left loves Islam

 

[Terri4Trump]

Islam is an abominable amalgam of a political and religious ideology. Unlike Judaism or Christianity, or Buddhism, Islam is not compatible with the western video of Liberty. This is a flaw in our constitution, that we have to respect an ideology dressed up as a religion which at its very core demands our own destruction.

 

[Coyote]

Lk,.m

You said you prefer not to call them a people. Go back and read your post. Then rethink who is a liar.

“I’m prefer to think on terms of Islam as an ideology rather than Muslims as a people.”

You serve hatred and bigotry in every post you make about Muslims. You are coy and dodge and deflect whenever directly confronted with your own words.

You call direct questions on your words “childish bugling demands”. Why? You made the statements. Are simple questions asking you to clarify your position now “bullying”? Goodness, I recall you accusing me of dodging questions in the past.

It is people like you who sent the refugees of the St. Louis back to Europe. It is people you who’s attitudes inspire people like the gunman who murdered 50 people at mosques in New Zealand.

If Muslims aren’t people or a people...what are they? The answers to those questions and the systemic dehumanization of a people in this way is exactly what leads to persecution, discrimination, and at it’s worst, genocide. It starts with ideas, words, campaigns of rhetoric and fear. You know where it ends. Look at the topic title. Is there more anti Muslim since 911?

The answer is simple. Yes. There is. People are afraid. Their way of life is changing, jobs are gone, the globalization of economies and even cultures leave people worried and desperate to protect what they see as their cultural values under attack by masses of impoverished immigrants. But this isn’t new. At the turn of the century, America was inundated with a flood of poor Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. They attacked for their consertive religious traditions (most American Jews were either of Sephardic origin, who came over in the 1600’s, or from Germany, who had come over in the 1840’s) where most of American Jews were reform. They were attacked for being dirty, breeding like rabbits, and bringing “dangerously radical“ ideas of equality and workers rights (socialism and communism). There is a parallel trend going on now, against Muslims. But you don’t want to see it because you are in the midst of fomenting it.

Then it was communism, now it is Jihad. Even though most, then and now, just want to make a life, raise their families and experience opportunities and freedoms they never had in their home countries.

So if Muslims aren’t people or a people what are they?

If you do not believe in religious freedom in this country, what do you propose for our nation’s Muslims? Banning mosques? Outlawing the Quran? A national registry? Microchips or tattoos? Barring them from elected office?

These are all reasonable questions, yet you characterize it as bullying”. Is your position so dicey you are unwilling to explore it?

Feel free to ask me similar questions. I don’t have a problem answering or defending, or, if the argument is persuasive, reconsidering my views.

You are a lying piece of utter filth.

You are intentionally portraying my words as indicating something they did not say because you are pure excrement.


Any honest person can see what I actually wrote, you bullying Islamist slug.

As to your ridiculously idiotic sophistry, Judaism is not a supremacist ideolohy, Jews are not trying to increase their ranks, Judaism has not spread by the sword, Judaism does not have a central figure who was a mass murdering serial rapists who they revere as perfect and Jews have no history of indulging in massive and widespread rape of children or mass murder of innocent people.

You are beneath contempt.

I quoted your exact words. If they are poorly worded in such a way as to invite misinterpretation, then clarify. I have given you ample opportunity to do so.

And by the way, the irony is lost on you isn’t it? The many times you accuse others here of saying things they did say? And now you are having a meltdown when you feel it is done to you?

Clearly your hatred is so extreme, you are incapable of recognizing trends in history (hell, I did a research paper on East European immigrants and American attitudes). The parallels are there. What you are accusing Muslims, as an entire group, of doing is almost word for word what accused Jewish immigrants of...rape, communism, lack of assimilation, subversive ideologies...

History repeats itself thanks to the mindless parroting of people like you multiplied by millions.

Nobody else is intentionally misinterpreting my words, Islamist filth.

Only you.

I notice she's derailing the thread and making the thread about you.

She derails EVERY thread about Islam.
One cannot talk about what Islam IS without her indulging in these dishonest ruses of hers.All this maniacal frothing of hers over the fact I said I prefer to discuss Islam as an ideology is just part of her Islamist agenda.

It's all about trying to portray any opposition to a Supremacist ideology as some sort of blind bigotry. She indulges in this agitprop quite knowingly and intentionally hoping to prevent any honest discussion about Islam .

So what would you do? Ban the religion in America? Imprison Muslims? Tattoo them?

What are your “solutions”?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Lk,.m

You are a lying piece of utter filth.

You are intentionally portraying my words as indicating something they did not say because you are pure excrement.


Any honest person can see what I actually wrote, you bullying Islamist slug.

As to your ridiculously idiotic sophistry, Judaism is not a supremacist ideolohy, Jews are not trying to increase their ranks, Judaism has not spread by the sword, Judaism does not have a central figure who was a mass murdering serial rapists who they revere as perfect and Jews have no history of indulging in massive and widespread rape of children or mass murder of innocent people.

You are beneath contempt.

I quoted your exact words. If they are poorly worded in such a way as to invite misinterpretation, then clarify. I have given you ample opportunity to do so.

And by the way, the irony is lost on you isn’t it? The many times you accuse others here of saying things they did say? And now you are having a meltdown when you feel it is done to you?

Clearly your hatred is so extreme, you are incapable of recognizing trends in history (hell, I did a research paper on East European immigrants and American attitudes). The parallels are there. What you are accusing Muslims, as an entire group, of doing is almost word for word what accused Jewish immigrants of...rape, communism, lack of assimilation, subversive ideologies...

History repeats itself thanks to the mindless parroting of people like you multiplied by millions.

Nobody else is intentionally misinterpreting my words, Islamist filth.

Only you.

I notice she's derailing the thread and making the thread about you.

She derails EVERY thread about Islam.
One cannot talk about what Islam IS without her indulging in these dishonest ruses of hers.All this maniacal frothing of hers over the fact I said I prefer to discuss Islam as an ideology is just part of her Islamist agenda.

It's all about trying to portray any opposition to a Supremacist ideology as some sort of blind bigotry. She indulges in this agitprop quite knowingly and intentionally hoping to prevent any honest discussion about Islam .

So what would you do? Ban the religion in America? Imprison Muslims? Tattoo them?

What are your “solutions”?

Dont allow the practice of Islam in this country.