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Was President Eisenhower's "Military Industrial Complex" speech the best speech ever?

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  • Yes

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  • Maybe, but there have been a lot of great speeches.

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The thought has often crossed my mind that perhaps the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech was one of the most important and best speeches ever done?

I believe that President Eisenhower risked his life by giving that speech. He also set the stage for what I believe will be revealed over the next ten years. 2026 to 2036 are going to be astonishing on a level where the human mind will be boggled, [at least that is what I am expecting based on the rumours that I have been hearing and reading for the last decade and more]?

In his 1961 farewell address, President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned against the ""unwarranted influence"" of a newly established, permanent, large-scale armaments industry and a massive military establishment. He coined the term "military-industrial complex" to describe the dangerous alliance between the U.S. government, the military, and defense contractors.

Key Aspects of Eisenhower's Warning:
  • The Shift: Historically, the U.S. had a small standing military, but after WWII, it became necessary to maintain a permanent defense industry.
  • The Danger: Eisenhower, a former5-star General, feared this alliance could prioritize profit and military expansion over national welfare and democratic freedoms.
  • The Goal:
    He urged an "alert and knowledgeable citizenry" to ensure that security and liberty could prosper together
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    • Context: The speech was a call for balance between necessary defense spending and economic stability.






The address is considered prophetic, as the "military-industrial complex" has continued to be a major factor in U.S. foreign policy and federal spending, with total military expenditures often exceeding those of other global power




Eisenhower's Speech Warning About the MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX​



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It is my belief that President Eisenhower's speech sets the stage for what is about to happen.

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No because he didn't actually believe what he said.

Thank you for letting me know what you personally believe at this time. Personally, I cannot imagine that there is zero connection somehow with "Operation Paperclip" and President Eisenhower's speech?


Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the US for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party, including the SS or the SA.

The effort began in earnest in 1945, as the Allies advanced into Germany and discovered a wealth of scientific talent and advanced research that had contributed to Germany's wartime technological advancements. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff officially established Operation Overcast (operations "Overcast" and "Paperclip" were related, and the terms are often used interchangeably) on July 20, 1945, with the dual aims of leveraging German expertise for the ongoing war effort against Japan and to bolster US postwar military research. The operation, conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), was largely actioned by special agents of the US Army's Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). Many selected scientists were involved in the Nazi rocket program, aviation, or chemical/biological warfare. The Soviet Union in the following year conducted a similar program, called Operation Osoaviakhim, that emphasized many of the same fields of research.


 
Eisenhower created and named the Military Industrial Complex.
These are JFK`s best speeches.

Yes, President Truman and President Eisenhower were heavily involved in the creation of "The USA Military and Industrial Complex."

A powerful case can be presented that what they began turned into something of a "Frankenstein Monster" on them.

There are perhaps some influential people who are desperate enough to stage what appears to be an alien invasion in order to "Stop Trump?"

John De Souza was a twenty five year veteran at the FBI who felt that he must retire as opposed to go along with James Comey.




 
Ike was prescient regarding what was happening, and also a student of military history. He pointed out that previous US wars had involved the turning of plowshares into swords. He warned against a permanent arms industry. How right he was.

Dark Forces animated in large part by greed were the problem
 
Ike was prescient regarding what was happening, and also a student of military history. He pointed out that previous US wars had involved the turning of plowshares into swords. He warned against a permanent arms industry. How right he was.

Dark Forces animated in large part by greed were the problem

He argued that and then got us involved in Vietnam.
 
He argued that and then got us involved in Vietnam.
Yes that's true, but at least he was brave enough to warn the people by telling the truth.

Lord give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
 
Yes that's true, but at least he was brave enough to warn the people by telling the truth.

Lord give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Yes, President Eisenhower was one of America's most courageous Presidents. He played around in the same league with President John F. Kennedy, President Ronald Reagan and President Trump.
 
Yes, President Eisenhower was one of America's most courageous Presidents. He played around in the same league with President John F. Kennedy, President Ronald Reagan and President Trump.
I don't see the Zionist DJT to be a great president. Reagan was popular, but not sure about great. By supporting our enemy Israel, Donald and others become guilty of treason under Article III.
 
I don't see the Zionist DJT to be a great president. Reagan was popular, but not sure about great. By supporting our enemy Israel, Donald and others become guilty of treason under Article III.

But can we agree that President Donald J. Trump, for all of his many flaws, is in an entirely different league than Biden who was a joke, and Obama who clearly hated his own nation, much as so many Jewish thinkers, hate their own nation for being less than what they had hoped?

President Donald J. Trump, for all of his many flaws, can be compared with President Eisenhower, but Biden was just an absolute joke and useful idiot for the people who own BigMedia and BigOil and BigBanking and BigGovernment.



 
No because he didn't actually believe what he said.
he may not have knop but what would be the sense in making it then? if he didn't believe it, that would mean he convinced others to believe something he did not believe in which would seem counter productive...
...to be honest I was always confused by him making the speech myself since he dedicated his life to the military, but it is possible that the 'military' and the "military industrial complex" are unrelated entities and at loggerheads over how best the military should be used and who should dictate that use.
 
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he may not have knop but what would be the sense in making it then? even if he didn't believe it that would mean he convinced others to believe something he did not believe in which would seem counter productive...
...to be honest I was always confused by him making the speech myself since he dedicated his life to the military, but it is possible that the 'military' and the "military industrial complex" are unrelated entities and at loggerheads over how best the military should be used and who should dictate that use.

Exactly!

No intelligent person would do a speech like the Eisenhower Military Industrial Complex speech.....
if they did not absolutely know that they knew that the speech was necessary and true.
 
he may not have knop but what would be the sense in making it then?

Why do policians say so many thing that they then do the opposite?


even if he didn't believe it, that would mean he convinced others to believe something he did not believe in which would seem counter productive...
...to be honest I was always confused by him making the speech myself since he dedicated his life to the military, but it is possible that the 'military' and the "military industrial complex" are unrelated entities and at loggerheads over how best the military should be used and who should dictate that use.

I can understand someone having been in war having the opinion he did. Too bad he did the opposite.
 
Why do policians say so many thing that they then do the opposite?




I can understand someone having been in war having the opinion he did. Too bad he did the opposite.


By this comment can I take it that you also suspect that President Eisenhower may not have been one hundred percent thrilled with every aspect of "Operation Paperclip?"


Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the US for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party, including the SS or the SA.

The effort began in earnest in 1945, as the Allies advanced into Germany and discovered a wealth of scientific talent and advanced research that had contributed to Germany's wartime technological advancements. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff officially established Operation Overcast (operations "Overcast" and "Paperclip" were related, and the terms are often used interchangeably) on July 20, 1945, with the dual aims of leveraging German expertise for the ongoing war effort against Japan and to bolster US postwar military research. The operation, conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), was largely actioned by special agents of the US Army's Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). Many selected scientists were involved in the Nazi rocket program, aviation, or chemical/biological warfare. The Soviet Union in the following year conducted a similar program, called Operation Osoaviakhim, that emphasized many of the same fields of research.


 
By this comment can I take it that you also suspect that President Eisenhower may not have been one hundred percent thrilled with every aspect of "Operation Paperclip?"

It's possible but it was still done on his watch. It's on him.
 
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It's possible but it was still done on his watch. It's on him.

True, and I am of the opinion that Operation Paperclip did help to put the USA Military and Industrial Complex decades, [maybe even centuries], ahead of Russia, China and every other aspiring Military and Industrial Superpower.


I have had to ask myself....
could the January 2011 Temple Mount UFO sighting... have used USA "Military and Industrial Complex" Black Ops Technology??????






That is one possible implication of the rather shocking Steven Greer M. D. lectures.



 
Why do policians say so many thing that they then do the opposite?
to get folks to go along so they can then do the opposite, what opposite did eisenhower do after that speech? he had no reason to lie unless he was trying to cut himself off at the knees....this was his swan song, he had no reason to say the opposite, if he lied then he hit the nail right on the head with a lie...
...it's hard to imagine he was so right in an attempt to intentionally mislead...that would do more to lead/lend credence/credibility to lies than anything else.
 
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to get folks to go along so they can then do the opposite, what opposite did eisenhower do after that speech? he had no reason to lie unless he was trying to cut himself off at the knees....this was his swan song, he had no reason to say the opposite, if he lied then he hit the nail right on the head with a lie...
...it's hard to imagine he was so right in an attempt to intentionally mislead...that would do more to lead credence/credibility to lies than anything else.

Ike got us involved in Vietnam even after arguing against it. I'm not interested in a big discussion. I put blame on him for that.
 

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