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Was the Columbus, OH., police officer justified shooting the knife wielding girl? (poll)

Do you support the police officer shooting the knife wielding girl protecting the unarmed girl?

  • Yes, the shooting was justified.

    Votes: 111 94.1%
  • No, I'll explain in my post

    Votes: 7 5.9%

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The only thing I have a problem with is always, no matter the reason, shooting to kill....why can't cops be trained to shoot to maime in certain cases like with an attacker yielding a knife?


That is a really stupid thing to say. Police officers aren't trained trick shot artists. They are trained to shoot center of mass, it makes the possibility of stray round or ricochet less likely. You need to go to a concealed carry course to aid in curing your ignorance.

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Then maybe in some cases, they should not pull out their gun at all..... If they know they are going to likely kill, whomever they shoot, and that person was initially stopped for a minor infraction....

All the cop tv shows as a kid, showed cops chasing down and running after thieves, or even really bad guys until they caught up with them and tackled them, not shooting down, center mass.....and killing them.

Were those cop tv shows just Hollywood, brainwashing us, about cops being the good guys, and not using their guns to kill unless they were being shot at... was all bull crap?
be specific now and explain HOW this cop in THIS situation had any other choice?
Did he have to fire, center mass, 4 times? Did he really have to do that? Would one shot, center mass, be enough to stop the girl with the knife? That close, seems like one shot, center mass, would be enough to nearly kill her or kill her right off, but there might have been a chance to save her life...?

Four shots at center mass seems like an OVER KILL?

Maybe the cop's adrenalin kicked in and he couldn't stop himself?? I dunno? :dunno:

And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker?

I'm okay so far, with him having to shoot at her, I suppose, but shooting to kill her, center mass, and doing so four consecutive times, just ain't right.... to me...even if it is procedure.... :(
EVERY SINGLE COP is taught to shoot center mass because any other area is a probable miss. They are taught to fire until the target goes down as well no sane cop would fire once and then look to see if it worked that gets you killed.By the time he could tackle her she would have stabbed the other girl AND his tackling her would drive her forward into the other girl also stabbing her.
it was a knife, not a gun...a shot to the chest or stomach would stop anyone with a knife, from continuing their lunge imo.... If it was a gun, pointed at the girl, I'd be standing there with you on this....
So, did the girl with the knife, call 911 for help in the dispute, or not????

you are UTTERLY clueless. How many stab wounds do YOU KNOW about? How many gunshot? I single knife stab in the hands of a gutter moll (the "girl"
who wields one) is LIKELY just as lethal as a single shot. SPEND SOME TIME IN AN INNER CITY EMERGENCY ROOM
 

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Amost certainly NO.

A more proficient police officer would have been able to remedy the situation so that it didn't result in death.

Death was the outcome and that can never be seen as a successful handling of the situation.

Once again it simply boils down to bad policing that's due to a lack of police concern for black lives.

It would be a near certainty that had the knife wielder been a white child and the intended victim a black child, the outcome would have been different and more desirable.

Americans can't understand this and so the fight to reform their police will be long, which will most likely result in police pushing the envelope on their right to kill to even greater heights.
You're an idiot. If you were that cop that girl would have been stabbed. Officer did an excellent job, deserving of an award.
 

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We don't know for sure it was an aggressive attempt to stab, much less kill.
Nor is a knife almost ever fatal when there is an opportunity of defense.
Nor did the cop try a less lethal option, like taser, club, warning shot, single shot, etc.

4 shots is over kill.
Another idiot^^^^
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

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The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

That would not immediately stop it, but a bullet can stop it immediately.

It happened very fast!

We don't know for sure it was going to happen at all?
The girl with the knife could have been just trying to scare.
I bet if someone has a knife out fixing to stab you, your opinion would change.
 

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We don't know for sure it was an aggressive attempt to stab, much less kill.
Nor is a knife almost ever fatal when there is an opportunity of defense.
Nor did the cop try a less lethal option, like taser, club, warning shot, single shot, etc.

4 shots is over kill.
Another idiot^^^^

for the record----a SINGLE emergency SHOT is rarely fatal. I cannot cite actual STATS on stab vs shot---
but ---my impression is that the single stab is as dangerous as a single shot -----but often a DIAGNOSTIC NITEMARE
 

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The only thing I have a problem with is always, no matter the reason, shooting to kill....why can't cops be trained to shoot to maime in certain cases like with an attacker yielding a knife?


That is a really stupid thing to say. Police officers aren't trained trick shot artists. They are trained to shoot center of mass, it makes the possibility of stray round or ricochet less likely. You need to go to a concealed carry course to aid in curing your ignorance.

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Then maybe in some cases, they should not pull out their gun at all..... If they know they are going to likely kill, whomever they shoot, and that person was initially stopped for a minor infraction....

All the cop tv shows as a kid, showed cops chasing down and running after thieves, or even really bad guys until they caught up with them and tackled them, not shooting down, center mass.....and killing them.

Were those cop tv shows just Hollywood, brainwashing us, about cops being the good guys, and not using their guns to kill unless they were being shot at... was all bull crap?
be specific now and explain HOW this cop in THIS situation had any other choice?
Did he have to fire, center mass, 4 times? Did he really have to do that? Would one shot, center mass, be enough to stop the girl with the knife? That close, seems like one shot, center mass, would be enough to nearly kill her or kill her right off, but there might have been a chance to save her life...?

Four shots at center mass seems like an OVER KILL?

Maybe the cop's adrenalin kicked in and he couldn't stop himself?? I dunno? :dunno:

And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker?

I'm okay so far, with him having to shoot at her, I suppose, but shooting to kill her, center mass, and doing so four consecutive times, just ain't right.... to me...even if it is procedure.... :(
EVERY SINGLE COP is taught to shoot center mass because any other area is a probable miss. They are taught to fire until the target goes down as well no sane cop would fire once and then look to see if it worked that gets you killed.By the time he could tackle her she would have stabbed the other girl AND his tackling her would drive her forward into the other girl also stabbing her.
it was a knife, not a gun...a shot to the chest or stomach would stop anyone with a knife, from continuing their lunge imo..But 2 or three more shots? ... If it was a gun, pointed at the girl, I'd be standing there with you on this....
So, did the girl with the knife, call 911 for help in the dispute, or not????
who cares she had the knife she was the threat. and the officer did as taught your idiotic complaint about it not withstanding, Again once you fire you fire until the threat is solved.
 

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The Police Officer was totally wrong and should have used his laser beam eyes to disarm the sixteen year old with the knife, baked her some cookies and gave her some milk and then explained how her anger could have or should have gotten her killed...

( No, I am not being serious there at all! )

Look people the fact is had the Cop done nothing or failed while trying to do something that sixteen year old could have killed the other female and then the left would have been yelping about how the Cop failed to protect the other female, so it is damn it you do and damn if you don’t scenario!
4 shots to central mass mad jack....that just seems like over kill.... Adrenalin perhaps?

Yes, I'm glad he saved the girl about to be stabbed, but I still wish the stabber could have been stopped, by other means.... Tasered, clubbed, kicked.... In this case that may have not been an option.... I understand such.
 

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Yes. And No. I know. It is I the cop hater. At least that is what the replies from certain people will claim.

Yes. Shooting a weapon wielding individual is justified to save life.

The problem is totality of the situation. Nobody was hearing the commands of the cop. He wasn’t the loudest voice there. The fighting girls didn’t even see him. Not because they were black. Nor because they were girls.

The term is situational awareness. It takes training to avoid the normal human tendency to focus on one thing. The tunnel vision. A vast majority of you will never have experienced it. But with training you can avoid that deadly mistake.

The girls fighting were seeing nothing but their enemies. Totally normal human reaction. They were not hearing anything. Much less the sounds of the cop shouting.

This is where you need something to startle them. Something to get their attention. A shot into the grass as one example. I watched the video once. My mind screamed fire a shot into the ground. It will startle the girls out of the tunnel.

When the cop fired. At that moment he had a choice. Let another person get stabbed. Wounded. Possibly killed. Or shoot.

I don’t find fault with the shooting at the time it happened. But here again is where my often advocated position comes in. A study into the totality of events. Alternatives that can be thought of. Alternatives that may be available to the next cop in the next situation. Alternatives that may save a life later. And there are always alternatives. There are always lessons to be learned.

The biggest thing is think. It is hard to think in a stressful situation. The ability to do so is invaluable. This is where training comes in. Teaching people to think when the stress is on. Teaching them to avoid that tunnel vision.

The more you know. The better you are. We should milk incidents like this for every ounce of information.

It was a justified shooting IMO. It was still regrettable. And I would like to think of ways to avoid it if possible next time. I don’t want to see anyone die. Cop or civilian. If it can possibly be avoided.
 

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The only thing I have a problem with is always, no matter the reason, shooting to kill....why can't cops be trained to shoot to maime in certain cases like with an attacker yielding a knife?


That is a really stupid thing to say. Police officers aren't trained trick shot artists. They are trained to shoot center of mass, it makes the possibility of stray round or ricochet less likely. You need to go to a concealed carry course to aid in curing your ignorance.

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Then maybe in some cases, they should not pull out their gun at all..... If they know they are going to likely kill, whomever they shoot, and that person was initially stopped for a minor infraction....

All the cop tv shows as a kid, showed cops chasing down and running after thieves, or even really bad guys until they caught up with them and tackled them, not shooting down, center mass.....and killing them.

Were those cop tv shows just Hollywood, brainwashing us, about cops being the good guys, and not using their guns to kill unless they were being shot at... was all bull crap?
be specific now and explain HOW this cop in THIS situation had any other choice?
Did he have to fire, center mass, 4 times? Did he really have to do that? Would one shot, center mass, be enough to stop the girl with the knife? That close, seems like one shot, center mass, would be enough to nearly kill her or kill her right off, but there might have been a chance to save her life...?

Four shots at center mass seems like an OVER KILL?

Maybe the cop's adrenalin kicked in and he couldn't stop himself?? I dunno? :dunno:

And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker?

I'm okay so far, with him having to shoot at her, I suppose, but shooting to kill her, center mass, and doing so four consecutive times, just ain't right.... to me...even if it is procedure.... :(
 

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The only thing I have a problem with is always, no matter the reason, shooting to kill....why can't cops be trained to shoot to maime in certain cases like with an attacker yielding a knife?


That is a really stupid thing to say. Police officers aren't trained trick shot artists. They are trained to shoot center of mass, it makes the possibility of stray round or ricochet less likely. You need to go to a concealed carry course to aid in curing your ignorance.

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Then maybe in some cases, they should not pull out their gun at all..... If they know they are going to likely kill, whomever they shoot, and that person was initially stopped for a minor infraction....

All the cop tv shows as a kid, showed cops chasing down and running after thieves, or even really bad guys until they caught up with them and tackled them, not shooting down, center mass.....and killing them.

Were those cop tv shows just Hollywood, brainwashing us, about cops being the good guys, and not using their guns to kill unless they were being shot at... was all bull crap?
be specific now and explain HOW this cop in THIS situation had any other choice?
Did he have to fire, center mass, 4 times? Did he really have to do that? Would one shot, center mass, be enough to stop the girl with the knife? That close, seems like one shot, center mass, would be enough to nearly kill her or kill her right off, but there might have been a chance to save her life...?

Four shots at center mass seems like an OVER KILL?

Maybe the cop's adrenalin kicked in and he couldn't stop himself?? I dunno? :dunno:

And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker?

I'm okay so far, with him having to shoot at her, I suppose, but shooting to kill her, center mass, and doing so four consecutive times, just ain't right.... to me...even if it is procedure.... :(


" And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker? "

Good lord, please get a brain. We who served are TRAINED to shoot center mass, you shoot til they're down and even then approach warily.TURN OFF THE DAMN TV.
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

Agree that it was a justified shooting. No way that officer had time to taz. Absolutely a split second decision and unfortunately someone lost their life. Glad it wasn't one of the Innocent people standing around or the officer.
MAGA
 

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it was a knife, not a gun...a shot to the chest or stomach would stop anyone with a knife, from continuing their lunge imo..But 2 or three more shots? ... If it was a gun, pointed at the girl, I'd be standing there with you on this....
So, did the girl with the knife, call 911 for help in the dispute, or not????
Pick that up on careful attention to your evening prime time TV training?
 

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The only thing I have a problem with is always, no matter the reason, shooting to kill....why can't cops be trained to shoot to maime in certain cases like with an attacker yielding a knife?


That is a really stupid thing to say. Police officers aren't trained trick shot artists. They are trained to shoot center of mass, it makes the possibility of stray round or ricochet less likely. You need to go to a concealed carry course to aid in curing your ignorance.

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Then maybe in some cases, they should not pull out their gun at all..... If they know they are going to likely kill, whomever they shoot, and that person was initially stopped for a minor infraction....

All the cop tv shows as a kid, showed cops chasing down and running after thieves, or even really bad guys until they caught up with them and tackled them, not shooting down, center mass.....and killing them.

Were those cop tv shows just Hollywood, brainwashing us, about cops being the good guys, and not using their guns to kill unless they were being shot at... was all bull crap?
be specific now and explain HOW this cop in THIS situation had any other choice?
Did he have to fire, center mass, 4 times? Did he really have to do that? Would one shot, center mass, be enough to stop the girl with the knife? That close, seems like one shot, center mass, would be enough to nearly kill her or kill her right off, but there might have been a chance to save her life...?

Four shots at center mass seems like an OVER KILL?

Maybe the cop's adrenalin kicked in and he couldn't stop himself?? I dunno? :dunno:

And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker?

I'm okay so far, with him having to shoot at her, I suppose, but shooting to kill her, center mass, and doing so four consecutive times, just ain't right.... to me...even if it is procedure.... :(


" And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker? "

Good lord, please get a brain. We who served are TRAINED to shoot center mass, you shoot til they're down and even then approach warily.TURN OFF THE DAMN TV.
Throw that PR-24 at her feet, works every time.
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

Agree that it was a justified shooting. No way that officer had time to taz. Absolutely a split second decision and unfortunately someone lost their life. Glad it wasn't one of the Innocent people standing around or the officer.
MAGA
The Officer saved the guilty thugs who were attacking Ma'Khia Bryant's home that she was defending with a knife.
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

Agree that it was a justified shooting. No way that officer had time to taz. Absolutely a split second decision and unfortunately someone lost their life. Glad it wasn't one of the Innocent people standing around or the officer.
MAGA
The Officer saved the guilty thugs who were attacking Ma'Khia Bryant's home that she was defending with a knife.
I must assume you did not see the foster mom and what she said happened. get your facts straight dumb ass.
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

Agree that it was a justified shooting. No way that officer had time to taz. Absolutely a split second decision and unfortunately someone lost their life. Glad it wasn't one of the Innocent people standing around or the officer.
MAGA
The Officer saved the guilty thugs who were attacking Ma'Khia Bryant's home that she was defending with a knife.
I must assume you did not see the foster mom and what she said happened. get your facts straight dumb ass.
Link?:link::link::link:


Ma'Khia's mother and aunt said she was defending herself.

"Those were grown, adult women. It looked like that was a child. That was not no child. Those were women attacking my niece, and she was defending herself," Hazel Bryant said. "I'm angry right now."

Paula Bryant said: "All I'm going to say is that she was defending herself. And she was a young girl. She was 16. She should not have had to do that."
 
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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

Agree that it was a justified shooting. No way that officer had time to taz. Absolutely a split second decision and unfortunately someone lost their life. Glad it wasn't one of the Innocent people standing around or the officer.
MAGA
The Officer saved the guilty thugs who were attacking Ma'Khia Bryant's home that she was defending with a knife.
Got a link for that claim?
Who was the guy kicking the white gal on the ground?
What started the fight in the first place?
The gal in pink doesn't look nearly as aggressive as the one with the knife?!
The gal in pink called 911, so who was attacking whom?
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
It looks like it from just a video. I'm assuming that tazing was not an option.

Agree that it was a justified shooting. No way that officer had time to taz. Absolutely a split second decision and unfortunately someone lost their life. Glad it wasn't one of the Innocent people standing around or the officer.
MAGA
The Officer saved the guilty thugs who were attacking Ma'Khia Bryant's home that she was defending with a knife.
I must assume you did not see the foster mom and what she said happened. get your facts straight dumb ass.
Link?:link::link::link:
I saw it on the news on TV do your own home work.
 

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The only thing I have a problem with is always, no matter the reason, shooting to kill....why can't cops be trained to shoot to maime in certain cases like with an attacker yielding a knife?


That is a really stupid thing to say. Police officers aren't trained trick shot artists. They are trained to shoot center of mass, it makes the possibility of stray round or ricochet less likely. You need to go to a concealed carry course to aid in curing your ignorance.

.
Then maybe in some cases, they should not pull out their gun at all..... If they know they are going to likely kill, whomever they shoot, and that person was initially stopped for a minor infraction....

All the cop tv shows as a kid, showed cops chasing down and running after thieves, or even really bad guys until they caught up with them and tackled them, not shooting down, center mass.....and killing them.

Were those cop tv shows just Hollywood, brainwashing us, about cops being the good guys, and not using their guns to kill unless they were being shot at... was all bull crap?
be specific now and explain HOW this cop in THIS situation had any other choice?
Did he have to fire, center mass, 4 times? Did he really have to do that? Would one shot, center mass, be enough to stop the girl with the knife? That close, seems like one shot, center mass, would be enough to nearly kill her or kill her right off, but there might have been a chance to save her life...?

Four shots at center mass seems like an OVER KILL?

Maybe the cop's adrenalin kicked in and he couldn't stop himself?? I dunno? :dunno:

And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker?

I'm okay so far, with him having to shoot at her, I suppose, but shooting to kill her, center mass, and doing so four consecutive times, just ain't right.... to me...even if it is procedure.... :(


" And why couldn't he tackle her? Like in a Hawaii 5 O, or TJ Hooker? "

Good lord, please get a brain. We who served are TRAINED to shoot center mass, you shoot til they're down and even then approach warily.TURN OFF THE DAMN TV.
Throw that PR-24 at her feet, works every time.

LOL, Care is a good person but very naive.
 

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We don't know for sure it was an aggressive attempt to stab, much less kill.
Nor is a knife almost ever fatal when there is an opportunity of defense.
Nor did the cop try a less lethal option, like taser, club, warning shot, single shot, etc.

4 shots is over kill.
No, of course not. It was a non-aggressive stabbing attempt. Dey waz just havin' fun.
 

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