Zone1 Was Eve expelled from Eden, or did she leave with Adam?

[Hafar1014]

Morals are to each their own.
Some scholars point to the
lack of communication.

Why do you need to force your dogma?

Christianity is all about threats and force. Believe in Jesus or burn in hell. Thats not what Genesis means. It says choose of your own free will.

 

[rylah]

Christianity is all about threats and force. Believe in Jesus or burn in hell. Thats not what Genesis means. It says choose of your own free will.

Indeed,

but Christianity also tends to frame Eve.
While my heritage teaches that her choice
was actually righteous, and desired by God.

 

[Meriweather]

but Christianity also tends to frame Eve.
While my heritage teaches that her choice
was actually righteous, and desired by God.

Christians do focus on the act(s) of disobedience to God. From what I am reading, some are praising disobeying God, saying God actually wanted Adam and Eve to disobey him. If this is the case, what other acts of disobedience does God want? Were the Commandments given because God actually wants us to disobey them? Does God actually want us to disobey all that we are told not to do? Do Jews believe God sees disobedience as a virtue?

Christianity teaches that our human nature is the same as it was for Adam and Eve. That just as Adam and Eve chose to go their way instead of following the way of God, our human nature wants it our own way. Christianity teaches following God's way is the better choice, brings about better results, than following one's own way.

Do Jews believe that going their own way brings about better results than listening to God and following His way?

 

[Hafar1014]

Christians do focus on the act(s) of disobedience to God. From what I am reading, some are praising disobeying God, saying God actually wanted Adam and Eve to disobey him. If this is the case, what other acts of disobedience does God want? Were the Commandments given because God actually wants us to disobey them? Does God actually want us to disobey all that we are told not to do? Do Jews believe God sees disobedience as a virtue?

Christianity teaches that our human nature is the same as it was for Adam and Eve. That just as Adam and Eve chose to go their way instead of following the way of God, our human nature wants it our own way. Christianity teaches following God's way is the better choice, brings about better results, than following one's own way.

Do Jews believe that going their own way brings about better results than listening to God and following His way?

If you could read Genesis in its original language or have ot explained to you as it was intended you wouldnt have such a distorted understanding of it.

The foundation of Christianity is based on original sin and the threat of hell for those who dont believe in Jesus. But Jesus loves you. 3000 years of persecution followed thanks Jesus

It was always gods plan that they eat the fruit so God could teach them morals. The fruit contains knowledge of good and evil. How is learning moral values a sin. Doesnt make sense. How is obeying Gods plan a sin. Doesnt make sense. Before one has moral values how can one sin? Doesnt make sense. You do understand this is an allegory.
After they after the fruit the repented as matter of free will not the threat of Hell. There is no hell in Genesis, no devil or fall of man.

 

[rylah]

Christians do focus on the act(s) of disobedience to God. From what I am reading, some are praising disobeying God, saying God actually wanted Adam and Eve to disobey him. If this is the case, what other acts of disobedience does God want? Were the Commandments given because God actually wants us to disobey them? Does God actually want us to disobey all that we are told not to do? Do Jews believe God sees disobedience as a virtue?

Christianity teaches that our human nature is the same as it was for Adam and Eve. That just as Adam and Eve chose to go their way instead of following the way of God, our human nature wants it our own way. Christianity teaches following God's way is the better choice, brings about better results, than following one's own way.

Do Jews believe that going their own way brings about better results than listening to God and following His way?

Christianity rejects the very notion of commandments,
focusing on personal adherence to dogma, else eternal hell.

Adam and Eve were prophets in an ideal world,
Christians who assume they're the same,
most likely suffer from psychosis.

Listening to God, is different from using Google translate,
to 'hear' the conversation between two Chinese in a restaurant.

 

[Meriweather]

The foundation of Christianity is based on original sin and the threat of hell for those who dont believe in Jesus. But Jesus loves you. 3000 years of persecution followed thanks Jesus

No, the foundation of Christianity is not based on original thread and/or the threat of hell for those who don't believe in Jesus. I have told you this numerous times and you still have no understanding of it. This leaves me wondering how well you understand Genesis, when you cannot/will not understand Christianity, but only your own skewed version of it. As you obstinately cling to your own way of Christianity, how is anyone to even imagine you also have your own way about Genesis?

Christianity believes/teaches that God endowed us with free will. That was in place before eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

It was always gods plan that they eat the fruit so God could teach them morals. The fruit contains knowledge of good and evil. How is learning moral values a sin. Doesnt make sense. How is obeying Gods plan a sin. Doesnt make sense. Before one has moral values how can one sin? Doesnt make sense. You do understand this is an allegory.
After they after the fruit the repented as matter of free will not the threat of Hell. There is no hell in Genesis, no devil or fall of man.

They weren't obeying God's plan, as God had said not to eat the fruit.

If you could read Genesis in its original language or have ot explained to you as it was intended you wouldnt have such a distorted understanding of it.

Again, you don't read anything do you? You read nothing of Christianity, you evidently did not read the numerous times I told you I studied Genesis with a Jew whose first language was Hebrew. Is Hebrew your first language? If not, then I'll suggest that I may be the one who has the better understanding of Genesis.

 

[Meriweather]

Christianity rejects the very notion of commandments,
focusing on personal adherence to dogma, else eternal hell.

Wrong and wrong. But I doubt you care.

 

[rylah]

Wrong and wrong. But I doubt you care.

I must be wrong about dogma being dogmatic...

Can there be an Atheist Christian?
Atheist Muslim?

 

[Meriweather]

I must be wrong about dogma being dogmatic...

Please give me the source you are using where you claim Christianity rejects the very notion of Commandments. Also the source on "personal adherence to dogma".