was Charlie Kirk shot by an amateur or by a professional killer?

I'm thinking professional.
 
First shot hits you stop firing

This guy was one shot, one kill
My speculation is that if he was an amateur, it was luck more than skill. My speculation is that he was a professional. I also think a nutjob would be more inclined to take out followers and supporters as well.

I could be wrong but I’m betting he was hired. We’ll see.
 
was there a team that helped the killer?

what do you think?

I think somebody had well planned.
Not sure, clearly he was assassinated to censor him and stop him from sharing and debating his ideology
 
No, it is a difficult shot. You need to account for several things when you're sniping a target.

1) Weapon
2) Wind
3) Gravity
4) Bullet drift
5) Your breathing and its effect on the stability of the weapon
6) Angle and proper vantage point.
7) Proper body positioning
8) Not 'jerking the trigger'

I would strongly advise you not to speak on subjects you do not know much about.
It's not a difficult shot. I could make it when I was eighteen with an M-16A1 and iron sights. With a scoped 30.06 it's a clout shot. The hardest part was it was a downhill shot which is why the shooter missed center of mass, the bullet rose about a foot.
 
was there a team that helped the killer?

what do you think?

I think somebody had well planned.
No .....he has been identified and they have his picture.....just a amateur leftie who thinks he will be a hero to his fellow lefties.

 
No .....he has been identified and they have his picture.....just a amateur leftie who thinks he will be a hero to his fellow lefties.

Gateway Pundit?
You know they just make shit up
 
I would counter with the bullet's displacement wave as it was traveling. Those vests can nullify up to .44 Magnum.

Another concern with this theory is the soft material the vest is made from. How would the bullet deflect? Compression of the material on the lip?
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Level IV vests will stop a 30.06 round and Level III will stop .308 and .556. Level II and lower level ballistic vests can only stop pistol rounds.
What is normally left out us the fact that a bullet not only pierces but works on hydraulic pressure. and the transfer of its destructive energy to the body.
 
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Level IV vests will stop a 30.06 round and Level III will stop .308 and .556. Level II and lower level ballistic vests can only stop pistol rounds.
What is normally left out us the fact that a bullet not only pierces but works on hydraulic pressure. and the transfer of its destructive energy to the body.
Level IV is for Large Rifle level III is HG rounds
 
Thread headline question makes no sense. It calls for speculation.

So, here’s my pure guesswork. It looks to have been carefully pre-planned. Not just from the clean get away, but also from how the assassination took place. And the fact that it took just one shot to kill his victim,

It therefore appears to have been by a highly trained and/or skilled assassin’s work.
A “professional” denotes one who is paid for his “services.” I have no way yet of knowing or even guessing whether the assassin was paid for that murder — or, if so, by whom.
 
was there a team that helped the killer?

what do you think?

I think somebody had well planned.

Seriously?

A "professional" would have never allowed himself to be photographed running on the roof of the building, or walking up a flight of stairs. Nor would he have been trying to shoot someone in the neck, instead of center mass. Nor would have a "professional" used an antiquated hunting caliber like 30-06. There are far better, flatter-shooting, and more powerful cartridges like 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum, 338-378 Weatherby, 7mm Magnum, or 6.8SPC.
 
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It's not a difficult shot. I could make it when I was eighteen with an M-16A1 and iron sights. With a scoped 30.06 it's a clout shot. The hardest part was it was a downhill shot which is why the shooter missed center of mass, the bullet rose about a foot.
Good input.

I was only a sharpshooter (just under an expert) in the Marines, oddly enough, because I didn't score well enough on the 200-yard line (sitting and kneeling); however, I shot much better on the 300- and 500-yard lines, which brought my score up to sharpshooter. And that was with a 5.56 round, which is much weaker and smaller a 30-06 round. More affected by the wind, etc.

Open sites had never fired a rifle before. Just a week or two of training and take the test.
 
My speculation is that if he was an amateur, it was luck more than skill. My speculation is that he was a professional. I also think a nutjob would be more inclined to take out followers and supporters as well.

I could be wrong but I’m betting he was hired. We’ll see.
Hired by whom?
 
Do these two images look like a match?

FBI isn't giving us much to work with.

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