was Charlie Kirk shot by an amateur or by a professional killer?

[playtime]

You brought up trying to divide America.

nope. i was posting b/f with a poster about some theories as to who this dude might be & his MO. nice try, but you don't fly, meaty.

That's where 10,000s BLMers come into play. Did you whine about it then?

yep.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yes when the Nutjob BLM Brother was ambushing the Dallas Cops he Bunkered one Cop around a Cement pillar and when cop went down he mag dumped him ( You could see rounds deflecting off of the Cops vest and striking the Sidewalk next to the mortally wounded officer . A level III A vest can in some instances deflect 30 cal rifle rounds , in that case it was 7.62x39

I would counter with the bullet's displacement wave as it was traveling. Those vests can nullify up to .44 Magnum.

Another concern with this theory is the soft material the vest is made from. How would the bullet deflect? Compression of the material on the lip?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Rumor is that it's this guy at the moment.....Zero confirmation.

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This guy makes my skin crawl.

 

[Doc7505]

Nut with a gun
Fired one shot and ran away

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Indeed, A Democrat Leftist nut that fired one shot and ran away.
Typical of the Democrat Left.

 

[Failzero]

I would counter with the bullet's displacement wave as it was traveling. Those vests can nullify up to .44 Magnum.

Another concern with this theory is the soft material the vest is made from. How would the bullet deflect? Compression of the material on the lip?

For III A to deflect a 7.62 x 51 or similar round is not unheard of but it’s physics is well beyond my Vernacular

 

[TemplarKormac]

For III A to deflect a 7.62 x 51 or similar round is not unheard of but it’s physics is well beyond my Vernacular

It's in my vernacular, but well out of my education range. Heh.

Where did Kirk grasp first? The collar or the neck? That's a clue.

(I'm trying to keep an appetite for dinner, not interested in seeing the video again. Once was enough.)

 

[Zebra]

~~~~~~~.
Indeed, A Democrat Leftist nut that fired one shot and ran away.

you mean he should have stayed and waited to get caught?

 

[TemplarKormac]

nope. i was posting b/f with a poster about some theories as to who this dude might be & his MO. nice try, but you don't fly, meaty.


yep.

Let's... get back on topic, shall we?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Yes, the conspiracy theories have started already. Trying meet out blame before the shooter has been arrested does nothing.

It kills time, and we do it every single time.

 

[Failzero]

It's in my vernacular, but well out of my education range. Heh.

Where did Kirk grasp first? The collar or the neck? That's a clue.

The Shirt showed a violent impact right above the area that would be above the Left Shirt pocket on a Shirt with two upper pockets

 

[TemplarKormac]

The Shirt showed a violent impact right above the area that would be above the Left Shirt pocket on a Shirt with two upper pockets

So...

All that's left is the angle of the bullet's trajectory. It would have needed to deflect at least 25-30 degrees to hit in such a precise location.

 

[Failzero]

So...

All that's left is the angle of the bullet's trajectory. It would have needed to deflect at least 25-30 degrees to hit in such a precise location.

It was a little high for more of a heart shot than dead Center Mass

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I know a half of dozen hunters who could have made that same shot.

Yep.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It was a little high for more of a heart shot than dead Center Mass

So in this scenario, the sniper aimed for the neck and missed wildly low, and lucked out with the deflection.

That seems like a highly improbable sequence of events to me.

 

[Failzero]

So in this scenario, the sniper aimed for the neck and missed wildly low, and lucked out with the deflection.

That seems like a highly improbable sequence of events to me.

Just as a Neck only Shot is ( for anyone who is shooting to kill at 200 Yards with decent Optics and lower to middle tier rig

 

[TemplarKormac]

Just as a Neck only Shot is ( for anyone who is shooting to kill at 200 Yards with decent Optics and lower to middle tier rig

It would be interesting to see the ballistics data on that, then. I'm just speculating at this point.

 

[JohnDB]

So...

All that's left is the angle of the bullet's trajectory. It would have needed to deflect at least 25-30 degrees to hit in such a precise location.

It was a fluke ricochet....
It entered his neck and took out bottom corner of his skull. (Not all flowing out was blood....nuff said about that).

With as many people around Charlie....I'm surprised no one else was injured as was the case in one of Trump's attempted assassinations.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

My knowledge of human anatomy would suggest going for the neck. Because the carotid artery bifurcates on both sides of the trachea, right near the Adam's apple. Two things can be accomplished by landing a shot there:

1) Cessation of blood flow to the brain
2) Inhibition of breathing through severe damage to the trachea.

Furthermore, the placement is too precise. The temple/crown of the head is a smaller area compared to the area of the neck where the bullet struck. The bullet's trajectory could have likely severed the right carotid, trachea, and left carotid. That is incredibly precise for a layman sniper.

(Disclaimer: I can be wrong, I may be wrong, but I speak based on my father's knowledge as a trained marksman.)

I agree. Looking at the video it seemed to be a deliberate shot to the neck. You want to take down something (like a deer/elk), you aim for the neck.

 

[wamose]

My guess is that this was a professional hit ordered by the petrified Democrat party. And I don't think they'll ever find the shooter.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It was a fluke ricochet....
It entered his neck and took out bottom corner of his skull. (Not all flowing out was blood....nuff said about that).

Maybe I will look at the footage again, if I can muster up the courage to.