was Charlie Kirk shot by an amateur or by a professional killer?

[TemplarKormac]

A lot of murder/suicides are not synchronized. Human psychology, especially for a desperado, would dictate otherwise.

But then no one knows yet.

Well, he took the pain of

1) Buying the weapon and the correct accessories
2) Buying the proper tools to disassemble the weapon for portability
3) Doing recon on the site where he would commit the deed
4) Traveling to the site
5) Making a pained effort to blend in

Furthermore, if it were a murder/suicide type of scenario, it would have been more likely if he had fled and then killed himself in the woods where he ditched his weapon.

My theory is that the longer this goes without finding him, the less likely it is that he wants to kill himself. I'm pegging him to be the type who will engage law enforcement when or if they corner him.

 

[BothWings]

The question is whether it was a professional hit.
It did not have to be a trained sniper but any amateur with shooting experience could have made the shot

I doubt if he was aiming for the neck, but still got a fatal hit

JFK was first hit in the neck before he was finished off with one to the head. Interesting. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine. Maybe a Marine or CIA training tactic. I used to know a deer hunter who always went for the neck.

 

[drudge X]

$100,000 reward offered by the FBI.
Go for $1,000,000 and more people will come forward.

 

[Zebra]

It's been pretty much narrowed down to a thin white/Hispanic young man, a good shot and an asshole. Likely LGBT...

It's a matter of hours or he's a ******* Houdini.

thin .... white ... Hispanic ... young man ...

is that from the video?

 

[Meathead]

Well, he took the pain of

1) Buying the weapon and the correct accessories
2) Buying the proper tools to disassemble the weapon for portability
3) Doing recon on the site where he would commit the deed
4) Traveling to the site
5) Making a pained effort to blend in

Furthermore, if it were a murder/suicide type of scenario, it would have been more likely if he had fled and then killed himself in the woods where he ditched his weapon.

My theory is that the longer this goes without finding him, the less likely it is that he wants to kill himself. I'm pegging him to be the type who will engage law enforcement when or if they corner him.

Could be. I still think they'll find him dead. Certainly no more of a loss than Trayvon to humanity, but his motives might remain obscure.

 

[Meathead]

thin .... white ... Hispanic ... young man ...

is that from the video?

Pretty much, he was obviously young and thin at least. It ain't rocket science.

 

[playtime]

BLM couldn't do it and this ******* loon can?

 

[BothWings]

a retired FBI dude said that the shot in his neck wasn't where a true sniper would hit, but given that he was under a tent - it was effective carrying out that murder.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a "true" sniper. However, even a true sniper can make a mistake under pressure. The question is, was hitting Kennedy in the throat really a mistake? A neck shot is easier because it moves less than the actual head and is more anchored by the torso.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The question is whether it was a professional hit.
It did not have to be a trained sniper but any amateur with shooting experience could have made the shot

Here's the one thing you're missing, though:

Knowledge of human anatomy. The sniper aimed for the neck, not the head.

 

[rightwinger]

Here's the one thing you're missing, though:

Knowledge of human anatomy. The sniper aimed for the neck, not the head.

I don’t think he aimed for the neck.
I think he went for the head or body and hit either high or low

 

[TemplarKormac]

Is this even relevant to the thread?

 

[Meathead]

I don’t think he aimed for the neck.
I think he went for the head or body and hit either high or low

**** it. He aimed to kill. He did, that's all that matters.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don’t think he aimed for the neck.
I think he went for the head or body and hit either high or low

My knowledge of human anatomy would suggest going for the neck. Because the carotid artery bifurcates on both sides of the trachea, right near the Adam's apple. Two things can be accomplished by landing a shot there:

1) Cessation of blood flow to the brain
2) Inhibition of breathing through severe damage to the trachea.

Furthermore, the placement is too precise. The temple/crown of the head is a smaller area compared to the area of the neck where the bullet struck. The bullet's trajectory could have likely severed the right carotid, trachea, and left carotid. That is incredibly precise for a layman sniper.

(Disclaimer: I can be wrong, I may be wrong, but I speak based on my father's knowledge as a trained marksman.)

 

[TemplarKormac]

**** it. He aimed to kill. He did, that's all that matters.

Sorry. We are just speculating, Meaty.

Pops taught me to shoot, so I know more than most. It seems RW knows some stuff, too.

 

[TemplarKormac]

rightwinger

https://x.com/i/grok/share/hvcz7bkGMvCvntfxQQmyoDaLC

 

[DigitalDrifter]

It could have been orchestrated, but probably a lone killer filled with rage toward traditional values and the people who stand up for them.

Once it was confirmed to be a .30-06, it tells me someone who knows their way around firearms and was wanting something that could hit a target from a great distance, and one that would cause great damage.

 

[playtime]

Is this even relevant to the thread?

ask meathead - he brought up BLM, which was irrelevant. i just showed that provocateurs are real, did you not follow anything b4 that?

 

[Zebra]

My knowledge of human anatomy would suggest going for the neck. Because the carotid artery bifurcates on both sides of the trachea, right near the Adam's apple. Two things can be accomplished by landing a shot there:

1) Cessation of blood flow to the brain
2) Inhibition of breathing through severe damage to the trachea.

a specialist!

 

[TemplarKormac]

Could be. I still think they'll find him dead. Certainly no more of a loss than Trayvon to humanity, but his motives might remain obscure.

Indeed.

 

[playtime]

My knowledge of human anatomy would suggest going for the neck. Because the carotid artery bifurcates on both sides of the trachea, right near the Adam's apple. Two things can be accomplished by landing a shot there:

1) Cessation of blood flow to the brain
2) Inhibition of breathing through severe damage to the trachea.

Furthermore, the placement is too precise. The temple/crown of the head is a smaller area compared to the area of the neck where the bullet struck. The bullet's trajectory could have likely severed the right carotid, trachea, and left carotid. That is incredibly precise for a layman sniper.

(Disclaimer: I can be wrong, I may be wrong, but I speak based on my father's knowledge as a trained marksman.)

as soon as they reported he was shot in the neck - then it pretty much meant he bled out quick enough.