Warren and Schumer urge student debt cancellation of up to $50,000 for all federal borrowers

[kaz]

You didn't say anything, you just repeated your inane positions, like that you don't understand the difference between a job benefit and welfare.

Actually, a lot of veteran benefits were voted in after I left... so there's that. How could it be a Job benefit if it wasn't in play when I did the job.

Veteran's benefits are just another form or welfare. Period.

You have no freaking clue what Republicans think even though you claim you were one a decade ago.

Buddy, as I said, a Decade ago, Republicans weren't in a crazy Cult drinking the Orange Koolaid. WHEN Trump is gone, there is going to be a great reckoning of how the party drifted so far from common decency.

Not the first time, either, it had similar reckonings after Nixon and McCarthy.

How are Republicans different than they were a decade ago? You're just still vomiting dogmatic Democrat Party rhetoric

 

[Weatherman2020]

Of course they do. Destroying the value of contracts will permit an escape from one's own stupidity.

Warren and Schumer urge student debt cancellation of up to $50,000 for all federal borrowers

Finally I can get out of debt for my Masters in Lesbian Diversity!

 

[Claudette]

The Govt. shouldn't be in the business of Student loans at all. If you want to go to college, go to a bank or credit union for the money.

Bush St. did away with Govt. college loans cause they weren't being payed back sticking the tax payer with the loans.

Clinton reinstated them when he became POTUS. Not a good idea for the tax payer to get stuck paying off student loans.

 

[JoeB131]

How are Republicans different than they were a decade ago? You're just still vomiting dogmatic Democrat Party rhetoric

Well, let's start with the obvious ones.

1) Republicans used to support Free Trade.
2) They used to support limited government, not the 2 Trillion dollar "let's save Trump" bill.
3) They used to think paying off porn stars was a bad thing.
4) Bush and McCain supported sensible immigration reform, not the hateful shit that comes out of Trump's mouth.

I could go on and on about how Republicans have become "the Cult of Trump".

 

[kaz]

How are Republicans different than they were a decade ago? You're just still vomiting dogmatic Democrat Party rhetoric

Well, let's start with the obvious ones.

1) Republicans used to support Free Trade.
2) They used to support limited government, not the 2 Trillion dollar "let's save Trump" bill.
3) They used to think paying off porn stars was a bad thing.
4) Bush and McCain supported sensible immigration reform, not the hateful shit that comes out of Trump's mouth.

I could go on and on about how Republicans have become "the Cult of Trump".

1) Republicans used to support Free Trade.

- To call Trump using tariffs to lower tariffs anti-free trade is completely moronic Joe. You can agree or disagree with the approach, but this is just stupid

2) They used to support limited government, not the 2 Trillion dollar "let's save Trump" bill.

- You're full of shit. I left the Republican party 30 years ago because they had no interest in smaller government. W went on a spending orgy twenty years ago when he got both houses

3) They used to think paying off porn stars was a bad thing.

- Empty rhetoric

4) Bush and McCain supported sensible immigration reform, not the hateful shit that comes out of Trump's mouth.

- Empty rhetoric

I could go on and on about how Republicans have become "the Cult of Trump"

- Yes you could, because you're an idiot.

So you are mad a the Republicans for these, and you went to the party that's worse. Yeah Joe, sure

 

[JoeB131]

1) Republicans used to support Free Trade.

- To call Trump using tariffs to lower tariffs anti-free trade is completely moronic Joe. You can agree or disagree with the approach, but this is just stupid

No, guy, Trump is not a free trader unless his businesses benefit. he has caused trade wars that have hurt farmers.

- You're full of shit. I left the Republican party 30 years ago because they had no interest in smaller government. W went on a spending orgy twenty years ago when he got both houses

Why do you think that's new? They ALWAYS go on spending orgies.. Good presidents buy houses and bad presidents buy bombs.

3) They used to think paying off porn stars was a bad thing.

- Empty rhetoric

Quite the contrary... The Republicans in 1998 IMPEACHED a legitimately elected president because he lied about an affair with an intern.... They've been preaching the family values nonsense for 40 years to get dumb white people to vote against their own economic interests. (And frankly, I've fell for it for years.. Now I'm older and wiser.) But now you have a guy who cheated on all three of his wives, paid off a porn star and a playboy model to keep their stories out of the paper, and there are fairly credible accounts of sexual assault on his part, not to mention the "Grab them by the Pussy" tape. And the same GOP that screamed about cigars 20 years ago are totally good with this.

So you are mad a the Republicans for these, and you went to the party that's worse. Yeah Joe, sure

Actually, here's the thing. Back in the 1990's I was one of you wingnuts who screamed about Clinton's "immorality", but economically, I did pretty darned good under Clinton. I went from a crappy job out of the army in 1992 to a pretty good one in 2000. My income increased, I sold my property at a considerable profit.

By the end of Bush's term... I had a busted 401K, an underwater mortgage and had to suck up a 20% income reduction after my previous job screwed me after I got hurt.

Obama- Frankly, wasn't unemployed one day when Obama was president and saw a pretty substantial jump in my income. Not that I think Obama had a lot to do with it... the choices I made helped a lot.

Trump has fucked it all up again. I'm not hurting as bad as I was in 2008 this time because I knew that this guy was going to fuck it up and spent the last four years getting ready for that - paying down my debts, building up a reserve of savings, etc. But man, even I didn't think he was going to fuck it up this bad. I expected an economic downturn, I wasn't expecting the Zombie Apocalypse

So.... Riots, Plagues, economic disaster... you really think the Democrats can make this "worse"?

 

[DBA]

Now I'm older and wiser.

LOL...said NOBODY but you...ever. If you get older and morph INTO a Democrat the only explanation is dementia. Many start off as Democrat and an ideological teenager. Successful folks grow up and realize that their mindset as a naïve teenager was unfounded and become more Conservative. If you then morph back into a Democrat as you age, have done nothing but revert back to your childhood naïve thinking. Keep it up and you will be back in diapers soon enough.]

Think about it....you are so "wise" that you just happen to agree with the majority of zit faced teenagers.

 

[kaz]

1) Republicans used to support Free Trade.

- To call Trump using tariffs to lower tariffs anti-free trade is completely moronic Joe. You can agree or disagree with the approach, but this is just stupid

No, guy, Trump is not a free trader unless his businesses benefit. he has caused trade wars that have hurt farmers

To lower tariffs. You don't know what a free trader is. Or your mind is just swimming with Democrat propaganda. Same thing

- You're full of shit. I left the Republican party 30 years ago because they had no interest in smaller government. W went on a spending orgy twenty years ago when he got both houses

Why do you think that's new? They ALWAYS go on spending orgies.. Good presidents buy houses and bad presidents buy bombs.

Because that was YOUR answer to the question how the Republicans have changed in the last 10 years, dumb ass.

The rest is empty rhetoric. And Clinton wasn't impeached for lying about an intern. He was impeached for doing it under oath and then committing other crimes to cover it up.

I only care what my politicians do for my liberty. I'll let you pass judgment on their pasts

 

[JoeB131]

LOL...said NOBODY but you...ever. If you get older and morph INTO a Democrat the only explanation is dementia. Many start off as Democrat and an ideological teenager. Successful folks grow up and realize that their mindset as a naïve teenager was unfounded and become more Conservative. If you then morph back into a Democrat as you age, have done nothing but revert back to your childhood naïve thinking. Keep it up and you will be back in diapers soon enough.]

When you say, "Successful folks", I see 'Assholes who screw people over to advance themselves". So yeah, I don't live in a mansion, but I can say I've never screwed anyone over to advance myself and even went out of my way to help people.

The real problem is I used to buy the GOP rhetoric about "liberty" and "opportunity", but the reality is, we only have a middle class today because of LIberals. Liberals who fought for fair wages, for the right to vote, for equal rights.... Left to "Conservatives", America would still be a country of slave owners and slaves.

 

[JoeB131]

To lower tariffs. You don't know what a free trader is. Or your mind is just swimming with Democrat propaganda. Same thing

Trump did no such thing. he raised tariffs on China and the big multi-national corporations just moved their factories to Vietnam. Isn't that fucking ironic...given our history with Vietnam.

The rest is empty rhetoric. And Clinton wasn't impeached for lying about an intern. He was impeached for doing it under oath and then committing other crimes to cover it up.

But in the end, it was over something trivial and unimportant... And yes, it would have been nice if instead of spending 1998 and 1999 worried about whether or not he stuck a cigar in her whoo-ha, we were worried about that terrorist army Osama bin Laden was building up in Afghanistan.

Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden, Republicans accused him of "Wagging the Dog". (And yes, I fell for that shit at the time.)

Again- if you think lying about sex is a crime, then you should be against Trump, since he is clearly lying about Stormy Daniels.

 

[Polishprince]

LOL...said NOBODY but you...ever. If you get older and morph INTO a Democrat the only explanation is dementia. Many start off as Democrat and an ideological teenager. Successful folks grow up and realize that their mindset as a naïve teenager was unfounded and become more Conservative. If you then morph back into a Democrat as you age, have done nothing but revert back to your childhood naïve thinking. Keep it up and you will be back in diapers soon enough.]

When you say, "Successful folks", I see 'Assholes who screw people over to advance themselves". So yeah, I don't live in a mansion, but I can say I've never screwed anyone over to advance myself and even went out of my way to help people.

The real problem is I used to buy the GOP rhetoric about "liberty" and "opportunity", but the reality is, we only have a middle class today because of LIberals. Liberals who fought for fair wages, for the right to vote, for equal rights.... Left to "Conservatives", America would still be a country of slave owners and slaves.

Slavery is a LIBERAL concept, not a conservative one. The GOP was founded in the 1850's to fight slavery and the libs fought a war in the 1860's to save it.

 

[JoeB131]

Slavery is a LIBERAL concept, not a conservative one. The GOP was founded in the 1850's to fight slavery and the libs fought a war in the 1860's to save it.

Are you some kind of retard? I'm really having to ask this.

CONSERVATIVES wanted to keep slavery, not liberals.

 

[Polishprince]

Again- if you think lying about sex is a crime, then you should be against Trump, since he is clearly lying about Stormy Daniels.

That's of course bullshit. Ms. Daniels reported that the man that she had relations with had a small penis. President Trump has testified "believe me there is no problem" when he address the penis size issue in the 2016 primaries. Its apparent that Daniels was with someone else?

 

[Polishprince]

Slavery is a LIBERAL concept, not a conservative one. The GOP was founded in the 1850's to fight slavery and the libs fought a war in the 1860's to save it.

Are you some kind of retard? I'm really having to ask this.

CONSERVATIVES wanted to keep slavery, not liberals.

Lincoln was a conservative. Whether you like it or not. It was the libs who rebelled.

 

[kaz]

Again- if you think lying about sex is a crime, then you should be against Trump, since he is clearly lying about Stormy Daniels

You're a liar, Joe. I said what the crime was, and this isn't it.

So according to you, rape is not a crime. It's just sex. That's literally the argument you just made. If the underlying act is sex, then you're criminalizing sex.

That's how fundamentally dishonest you are.

Joe: You can lie under oath about sex. You can obstruct justice about sex. You can tamper with witnesses about sex. You can abuse your power about sex.

Yeah, Joe. No, you can't

 

[JoeB131]

You're a liar, Joe. I said what the crime was, and this isn't it.

So according to you, rape is not a crime. It's just sex. That's literally the argument you just made. If the underlying act is sex, then you're criminalizing sex.

That's how fundamentally dishonest you are

Um, no. Lying about sex is the crime here. Trump is doing the exact same thing Clinton did. Except Trump doesn't have Ken Starr doing a 70 million dollar panty sniffing investigation.

 

[kaz]

You're a liar, Joe. I said what the crime was, and this isn't it.

So according to you, rape is not a crime. It's just sex. That's literally the argument you just made. If the underlying act is sex, then you're criminalizing sex.

That's how fundamentally dishonest you are

Um, no. Lying about sex is the crime here. Trump is doing the exact same thing Clinton did. Except Trump doesn't have Ken Starr doing a 70 million dollar panty sniffing investigation.

Um ... actually it was legal to pay Stormy Daniels for silence. She could have said no, he couldn't have done shit.

Seriously, Joe, you're just clueless and uninformed. Most racists are. And most Democrats. Heavy overlap. I mean your candidate is a raging racist and constantly says so

 

[Polishprince]

You're a liar, Joe. I said what the crime was, and this isn't it.

So according to you, rape is not a crime. It's just sex. That's literally the argument you just made. If the underlying act is sex, then you're criminalizing sex.

That's how fundamentally dishonest you are

Um, no. Lying about sex is the crime here. Trump is doing the exact same thing Clinton did. Except Trump doesn't have Ken Starr doing a 70 million dollar panty sniffing investigation.

Bill Clinton was acquitted by his political cronies in 1999 for perjury.

And the lies he told were motivated by his Greed. Clinton was being sued and didn't want to pay Paula Corbin Jones for harassing her sexually.

 

[JoeB131]

Um ... actually it was legal to pay Stormy Daniels for silence. She could have said no, he couldn't have done shit.

Actually, it wasn't legal... which is why it is under investigation by NY now. If it was legal, he wouldn't have used proxies to make the payment.

But we weren't talking about 'legal". We were talking about moral. If you guys pass yourself off as the "Party of Family Values" when trying to keep gays from getting married or women from using contraception, then it doesn't look good when your fearless leader is fucking a porn star who looks like his daughter (which is all manner of creepy) and then paying her a lot of money to keep quiet before an election.

 

[JoeB131]

Bill Clinton was acquitted by his political cronies in 1999 for perjury.

Actually, TEN Republicans joined the Democrats in acquitting him. Including Fred Thompson...

And the lies he told were motivated by his Greed. Clinton was being sued and didn't want to pay Paula Corbin Jones for harassing her sexually.

Actually, no. Paula Jones had no case, which is why the judge dismissed it without merit. He just didn't want to be embarrassed.