Wal Mart Bill Struck Down

[dilloduck]

Health coverage and standard of living for workers is a "silly liberal issue"?

I'm not going to forget about domestic issue because some extremist nutcases flew planes into buildings.

The issues really have nothing to do with one another.



Again, respectfully, I'll disagree with you and wait to see if Mr. Connolly checks back to clarify.

Hell--we need to ban Mom and Pop businesses too. They don't cover thier employees either.

 

[Mr. P]

Hell--we need to ban Mom and Pop businesses too. They don't cover thier employees either.

Heck I’m trying to acquire a business right now and most likely, I won’t be able to cover myself.

 

[OCA]

No. The issue has been spun. And again, Wal-Mart could charge one cent more per item and satisfy everyone. I don't see how that keeps people from getting the consumer benefit that Wal-Mart provides.

The issue is that its not up to the government to tell companies how much they should charge and if and how much health insurance they should provide, that is socialism and its pretty much failed everywhere its been tried but you are welcome to move to Sweden and give it the old college try.

 

[jillian]

The issue is that its not up to the government to tell companies how much they should charge and if and how much health insurance they should provide, that is socialism and its pretty much failed everywhere its been tried but you are welcome to move to Sweden and give it the old college try.

Corporations are amoral. They don't make decisions for the greater good, nor should they be expected to. That's why sometimes government needs to set limits on them since it's the job of government to act on behalf of its people. That isn't socialism, that's just reality.

 

[dilloduck]

Corporations are amoral. They don't make decisions for the greater good, nor should they be expected to. That's why sometimes government needs to set limits on them since it's the job of government to act on behalf of its people. That isn't socialism, that's just reality.

Don't try to cram your assessment of morality down my throat !!!

 

[OCA]

Corporations are amoral. They don't make decisions for the greater good, nor should they be expected to. That's why sometimes government needs to set limits on them since it's the job of government to act on behalf of its people. That isn't socialism, that's just reality.

When it comes to social institutions such as marriage yes sometimes government must step in but it must not interfere in private business.

But the corporations are amoral comment was a scream.....just who in the hell do you think creates most of the jobs and wealth in America?

 

[Mr. P]

Corporations are amoral. They don't make decisions for the greater good, nor should they be expected to. That's why sometimes government needs to set limits on them since it's the job of government to act on behalf of its people. That isn't socialism, that's just reality.

The Government dictating the internal financial practices of a private company IS socialism. That is reality. The minimum wage is BS too.

 

[red states rule]

Corporations are amoral. They don't make decisions for the greater good, nor should they be expected to. That's why sometimes government needs to set limits on them since it's the job of government to act on behalf of its people. That isn't socialism, that's just reality.

They tried that is the Soviet Union and it did not work their either

Libs spin their failure by saying the right people were not in charge

I bet you at Cuba with breathless admiration

 

[OCA]

They tried that is the Soviet Union and it did not work their either

Libs spin their failure by saying the right people were not in charge

I bet you at Cuba with breathless admiration

RSR have you been drinking tonight? That last sentence is a little rough, can't quite get er read.

 

[jillian]

When it comes to social institutions such as marriage yes sometimes government must step in but it must not interfere in private business.

But the corporations are amoral comment was a scream.....just who in the hell do you think creates most of the jobs and wealth in America?

And where I DON'T want government is in my personal business, if that's what you mean by "social institutions".

Corporations ARE amoral. They are neither inherantly good nor inherantly evil. They exist for one reason, to make money. Corporations left unchecked gave us sweat shops and dangerous conditions like those that gave us the Triangle fire. Absent government controls (though one can argue how much or how little) they do not act with restraint so long as they are making money. In that regard they are effected only by the actions of the consumer and not by the worker.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

And where I DON'T want government is in my personal business, if that's what you mean by "social institutions".

Corporations ARE amoral. They are neither inherantly good nor inherantly evil. They exist for one reason, to make money. Corporations left unchecked gave us sweat shops and dangerous conditions like those that gave us the Triangle fire. Absent government controls (though one can argue how much or how little) they do not act with restraint so long as they are making money. In that regard they are effected only by the actions of the consumer and not by the worker.

This is totally correct jillian. We finally agree on something. If I could get repubs to abandon their "profit is the highest good" immorality, and you could get the left to abandond their "livable wage" type minimum wage (insisting every job must support a family of four plus college for all plus retirement is insanity) we could have a real reasonable centrist coalition.

 

[red states rule]

This is totally correct jillian. We finally agree on something. If I could get repubs to abandon their "profit is the highest good" immorality, and you could get the left to abandond their "livable wage" type minimum wage (insisting every job must support a family of four plus college for all plus retirement is insanity) we could have a real reasonable centrist coalition.

The left wing blowhards have yet to tell me at income level someone becomes "rich"

Will you tell me what rate someone earns a "livable" wage?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

The left wing blowhards have yet to tell me at income level someone becomes "rich"

Will you tell me what rate someone earns a "livable" wage?

As a neocon fascist, do you believe businesses would ever taken advantage of workers?

There was a time when we had 16 hr. workdays, no safety rules, child labor etc, in this country. Neocons seem to have forgotten this, and don't seem to care a fig about slave labor in our "favored nations". This is wrong. Let's remember history folks. Businesses will abuse you if you let them.

 

[red states rule]

As a neocon fascist, do you believe businesses would ever taken advantage of workers?

There was a time when we had 16 hr. workdays, no safety rules, child labor etc, in this country. Neocons seem to have forgotten this, and don't seem to care a fig about slave labor in our "favored nations". This is wrong. Let's remember history folks. Businesses will abuse you if you let them.

As a blowhard liberal, you cannot answer a simple direct question.

Instead you blather on with your DNC talking points

Now libs will demand the impeachment of Judge J. Frederick Motz

 

[rtwngAvngr]

As a blowhard liberal, you cannot answer a simple direct question.

Instead you blather on with your DNC talking points

Now libs will demand the impeachment of Judge J. Frederick Motz

I don't advocate a democrat style "living wage", so I'm not giving you a figure, assmunch. I'm beginning to think you can't read.

Do you think business would NEVER take advantage of workers? You need to study history.

 

[red states rule]

I don't advocate a democrat style "living wage", so I'm not giving you a figure, assmunch. I'm beginning to think you can't read.

Do you think business would NEVER take advantage of workers? You need to study history.

Libs will never answer the question, much like at what income level someone becomes "rich"

Wal Mart does not force anyone to work for them.

Wal Mart does not force anyone to shop in thier stores.

Libs hate Wal Mart simply because they will not let the unions infest their business and ruin it (like GM)

You need to study economics and perhaps you will learn Wal Mart is a boom for the US economy and the working class you claim to care so much about.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Libs will never answer the question, much like at what income level someone becomes "rich"

Wal Mart does not force anyone to work for them.

Wal Mart does not force anyone to shop in thier stores.

Libs hate Wal Mart simply because they will not let the unions infest their business and ruin it (like GM)

You need to study economics and perhaps you will learn Wal Mart is a boom for the US economy and the working class you claim to care so much about.

I'm not a lib, you douche.

I don't blame walmart for anything. I think our government should take a moral stand at a higher level and stop imports from countries that use laogai.

Could you please learn to read?

 

[red states rule]

I'm not a lib, you douche.

I don't blame walmart for anything. I think our government should take a moral stand at a higher level and stop imports from countries that use laogai.

Could you please learn to read?

Oh, is that when you will finally stop buying items made in China?

It is called the free market and capitalism

Stop trying to impose your vision of utopia on the rest of us

You say you are not a lib, but you do play a good one on this board

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Oh, is that when you will finally stop buying items made in China?

It is called the free market and capitalism

Stop trying to impose your vision of utopia on the rest of us

You say you are not a lib, but you do play a good one on this board

Do you think we should take the same approach with North Korea, give them billions in trade dollars, so they can give us good value with their slave labor camps, hoping they'll miraculously change their human rights abuses? If not, why not?

 

[red states rule]

Do you think we should take the same approach with North Korea, give them billions in trade dollars, so they can give us good value with their slave labor camps, hoping they'll miraculously change their human rights abuses? If not, why not?

It is starting to work in China. Capitalism is taking hold and the country is starting to enjoy the benefits.

You do sprew the left wing kook talking points very well for someone who denies he is a lib