April's Jobs Report +115,000

[jacksonlamb]

This was a modest but real improvement, suggesting that despite inflation pressures and geopolitical uncertainty, U.S. consumers felt slightly more confident about the near‑term economic outlook in April.

/www.conference-board.org/topics/consumer-confidence/index.cfm?utm_source=copilot.com

 

[Meister]

So why did trump tout this as the greatest jobs gain in US History?
Master of LIES and Deflection.

He said it, not me. But Zinc said it, that was my discussion about it.

 

[Concerned American]

"Federal government employment continued to decline."

Actually, this is a good thing. We've had a bloated government for
6+ years. Biden hired government employees to puff up his employment
numbers, not because of the need.

Gov't sector has been bloated for decades--nice to see that turning around.

 

[my2¢]

"Federal government employment continued to decline."

My joy seeing that within the report was muted by the increase defense spending. We need a government that learns to get along and quits creating enemies for the American people.

 

[Concerned American]

The Trump policy on jobs is to hurry AI and robots along so oligarchs won't have to pay workers anything anymore

Workers did it to themselves. When their demands make the product or service they sell unprofitable, business owners adapt to the conditions and opportunities that they have left. Gee, what's better--an average hourly wage of $30.66 (CA) with no job or a reasonable living, non-inflationary wage and a job? But look on the bright side--Americans will be harvesting crops again--until they make robots for that because the wages will outstrip the product.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

One has to take into consideration that Biden was riding on the COVID recovery. Job increases were inevitable no matter who was president unless they had enacted really, really bad policies. That's why you saw them spike in 2022, when we were passed the pandemic for the most part and then the increases gradually declined.

This is true, it wasn't until 2022 that the jobs returned to pre-covid levels.
Very convenient the graph starts AFTER covid

 

[Augustine_]

Workers did it to themselves.

Ahaha "Mr. President why are your job reports such shit?" "Workers did it to themselves, of course. Now go fetch me a child."

 

[Concerned American]

Now go fetch me a child."

What? A teen that would have had an entry level job at minimum wage that would have taught a work ethic and provided job experience that is now held by another elder employee at three times the wage -- making the product unreasonably priced, lowering sales? LOL, let me know how your marxist utopia works out for you when the machines are taking the jobs.

 

[my2¢]

By the way, how can you count people going back to their jobs
after the pandemic? I mean.....seriously.

COVID's effect on employment is a good point. COVID's effect on inflation is another consideration as supply chains needed time to recover from an economy at a stand-still.

 

[Augustine_]

let me know how your marxist utopia works out for you when the machines are taking the jobs.

And yet machines are currently taking the jobs in your unregulated capitalism.

 

[1srelluc]

What? A teen that would have had an entry level job at minimum wage that would have taught a work ethic and provided job experience that is now held by another elder employee at three times the wage -- making the product unreasonably priced, lowering sales? LOL, let me know how your marxist utopia works out for you when the machines are taking the jobs.

No shit, when I was a teen my peers and myself all worked.

Before that really. How many pre-teens do you see mowing yards and such these days?

I can't even fathom what they might be doing with their selves. They may as well be invalids.

 

[Concerned American]

And yet machines are currently taking the jobs in your unregulated capitalism.

Where have you been for the past five years. Average hourly wage in CA is $30.66. Nationwide that is $21+. Benefits double that amount. Burger flippers are worth $10 or less, hence ENTRY LEVEL. Now do you understand why a kiosk takes your order at McDs when a young worker used to? You're just not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

[Augustine_]

Where have you been for the past five years. Average hourly wage in CA is $30.66. Nationwide that is $21+. Benefits double that amount. Burger flippers are worth $10 or less, hence ENTRY LEVEL. Now do you understand why a kiosk takes your order at McDs when a young worker used to? You're just not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

If you pay a burger flipper $10 in California there will be no burger flippers in California, only employers complaining nobody wants to work anymore. If you pay a burger flipper $1 unregulated capitalists will still replace them with unpaid robots.

 

[Concerned American]

If you pay a burger flipper $10 in California there will be no burger flippers in California

That's what they told Pizza Hut---have you asked those unemployed Pizza Hut workers that used to work in the closed-down Pizza Huts how that unemployment wage feels? Inflation happens when you artificially double the minimum wage, Poindexter. Everyone else in skilled labor feels they should get double as well. SMH. THINK.

 

[Augustine_]

That's what they told Pizza Hut---have you asked those unemployed Pizza Hut workers that used to work in the closed-down Pizza Huts how that unemployment wage feels? Inflation happens when you artificially double the minimum wage, Poindexter. Everyone else in skilled labor feels they should get double as well. SMH. THINK.

Pizza Hut has been closing stores for decades in every state regardless of minimum wage. Apps and automation have been replacing Pizza Hut employees in every state regardless of minimum wage. Hell, in our unregulated capitalism Pizza Hut doesn't even own Pizza Hut. So why would you blame them for firing people?

 

[jacksonlamb]

Workers did it to themselves. When their demands make the product or service they sell unprofitable, business owners adapt to the conditions and opportunities that they have left. Gee, what's better--an average hourly wage of $30.66 (CA) with no job or a reasonable living, non-inflationary wage and a job? But look on the bright side--Americans will be harvesting crops again--until they make robots for that because the wages will outstrip the product.

UBI will be the inevitable answer.