Voting rights advocates say Trump's executive order requiring proof of citizenship 'could block millions from voting'. Isn't that the point?


It will be interesting to see how the Troll Bots will be ordered to argue and -----

Deny the need to have Identity Proof . This will require special skills of lies and deceit .

Spews , Mucky and Bugger will doubtless be up to the task of lying and being deceitful .
Come on Troll Bots .
Let's see you lie and be deceitful .
 

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If you need ID to fly, you should need ID to vote. ​

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"Acceptable Identification at the TSA Checkpoint​


Acceptable IDs​



Traveling with an acceptable ID?
Check the list below.

Adult passengers 18 and older must show valid identification at the airport checkpoint in order to travel.

  • Driver's licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
  • State-Issued Drivers License or State-Issued ID
  • U.S. passport
  • U.S. passport card
  • DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
  • U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
  • Permanent resident card
  • Border crossing card
  • An acceptable photo ID issued by a federally recognized Tribal Nation/Indian Tribe, including Enhanced Tribal Cards (ETCs).
  • HSPD-12 PIV card
  • Foreign government-issued passport
  • Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
  • Transportation worker identification credential
  • U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
  • U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential
  • Veteran Health Identification Card (VHIC)
In coordination with its DHS counterparts, TSA has identified acceptable alternate identification for use in special circumstances at the checkpoint.


A weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification. A temporary driver's license is not an acceptable form of identification.

REAL ID​

Beginning May 7, 2025, if you plan to use your state-issued ID or license to fly within the U.S., make sure it is REAL ID compliant. If you are not sure if your ID complies with REAL ID, check with your state department of motor vehicles.

Learn more about flying with a REAL ID.

Expired ID​

TSA currently accepts expired ID up to a year after expiration, for the above listed forms of identification. DHS has extended the REAL ID enforcement deadline to May 7, 2025. Learn more about REAL ID on TSA’s REAL ID webpage.

Children​

TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling within the United States. Contact the airline for questions regarding specific ID requirements for travelers under 18.

In the event you arrive at the airport without acceptable identification (whether lost, stolen, or otherwise), you may still be allowed to fly.

The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name and current address to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint, where you may be subject to additional screening.

You will not be allowed to enter the security checkpoint if you choose to not provide acceptable identification, you decline to cooperate with the identity verification process, or your identity cannot be confirmed.

TSA recommends individuals without acceptable identification arrive at least three hours in advance of their flight time.

Names With Suffixes​

TSA accepts variations on suffixes on boarding passes and ID. Suffixes are not required on boarding passes. If there is a suffix on the boarding pass, and there is not one on the ID or vice versa, that is considered an acceptable variation.


If your identity cannot be verified, you will not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint."


www.tsa.gov

Acceptable Identification at the TSA Checkpoint | Transportation Security Administration

The TSA Identification Requirements page outlines acceptable forms of ID for travelers at airport security checkpoints.
www.tsa.gov www.tsa.gov
 
DonGlock26 said:

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If you need ID to fly, you should need ID to vote. ​

​

"Acceptable Identification at the TSA Checkpoint​


Acceptable IDs​



Traveling with an acceptable ID?
Check the list below.

Adult passengers 18 and older must show valid identification at the airport checkpoint in order to travel.

  • Driver's licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
  • State-Issued Drivers License or State-Issued ID
  • U.S. passport
  • U.S. passport card
  • DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
  • U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
  • Permanent resident card
  • Border crossing card
  • An acceptable photo ID issued by a federally recognized Tribal Nation/Indian Tribe, including Enhanced Tribal Cards (ETCs).
  • HSPD-12 PIV card
  • Foreign government-issued passport
  • Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
  • Transportation worker identification credential
  • U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
  • U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential
  • Veteran Health Identification Card (VHIC)
In coordination with its DHS counterparts, TSA has identified acceptable alternate identification for use in special circumstances at the checkpoint.


A weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification. A temporary driver's license is not an acceptable form of identification.

REAL ID​

Beginning May 7, 2025, if you plan to use your state-issued ID or license to fly within the U.S., make sure it is REAL ID compliant. If you are not sure if your ID complies with REAL ID, check with your state department of motor vehicles.

Learn more about flying with a REAL ID.

Expired ID​

TSA currently accepts expired ID up to a year after expiration, for the above listed forms of identification. DHS has extended the REAL ID enforcement deadline to May 7, 2025. Learn more about REAL ID on TSA’s REAL ID webpage.

Children​

TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling within the United States. Contact the airline for questions regarding specific ID requirements for travelers under 18.

In the event you arrive at the airport without acceptable identification (whether lost, stolen, or otherwise), you may still be allowed to fly.

The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name and current address to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint, where you may be subject to additional screening.

You will not be allowed to enter the security checkpoint if you choose to not provide acceptable identification, you decline to cooperate with the identity verification process, or your identity cannot be confirmed.

TSA recommends individuals without acceptable identification arrive at least three hours in advance of their flight time.

Names With Suffixes​

TSA accepts variations on suffixes on boarding passes and ID. Suffixes are not required on boarding passes. If there is a suffix on the boarding pass, and there is not one on the ID or vice versa, that is considered an acceptable variation.


If your identity cannot be verified, you will not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint."


www.tsa.gov

Acceptable Identification at the TSA Checkpoint | Transportation Security Administration

The TSA Identification Requirements page outlines acceptable forms of ID for travelers at airport security checkpoints.
www.tsa.gov www.tsa.gov
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I didn't realize that a VHIC is real ID. Hmm.
 
excalibur said:
Well, yeah.

And that is why Dems be big mad. And naturally, they're suing over it.



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No it isn't. The point is we want American citizens voting. Americans voting and Americans have proof of citizenship available is not the same thing. 21.3 million Americans, don’t have proof of citizenship readily available. There are myriad reasons for this — the documents might be in the home of another family member or in a safety deposit box. And at least 3.8 million don’t have these documents at all, often because they were lost, destroyed, stolen, or they never had them. And there are generations of migrant workers that were born in the US but have no birth certificate. Some were home births but they never got recorded.
 
Flopper said:
No it isn't. The point is we want American citizens voting. Americans voting and Americans having proof of citizenship available is not the same thing. 21.3 million Americans, don’t have proof of citizenship readily available. There are myriad reasons for this — the documents might be in the home of another family member or in a safety deposit box. And at least 3.8 million don’t have these documents at all, often because they were lost, destroyed, stolen, or they never had them. There are generations of migrant workers that were born in the US but have no birth certificate. Some were home births but they never got recorded.
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Flopper said:
No it isn't. The point is we want American citizens voting. Americans voting and Americans have proof of citizenship available is not the same thing. 21.3 million Americans, don’t have proof of citizenship readily available. There are myriad reasons for this — the documents might be in the home of another family member or in a safety deposit box. And at least 3.8 million don’t have these documents at all, often because they were lost, destroyed, stolen, or they never had them. And there are generations of migrant workers that were born in the US but have no birth certificate. Some were home births but they never got recorded.
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REAL ID.
 
TroglocratsRdumb said:
When a non-citizen illegally votes they cancel out my legal vote and that is a violation of my right to vote.
The Democrats are against voting rights.
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Democrats believe the only legitimate elections are the ones Democrats win.

They don't care who votes, or if anyone votes. They'll take any ballot, pre-printed, fake, or cast by illegals.

Ironically, Democrats loath democracy.
 
Fake IDs are gonna cost too much for the DNC making dead people voting non-existant.

As it is now....there was an election in PA a week ago.....more DEMOCRAT voting ballots returned by mail than all mail-in ballots issued. And somehow a staunch and entrenched Republican house seat turned Democrat in the process.

This is precisely what the Revolutionary War was fought over....legislation without representation. Looks like it's happening again.
 
daveman said:
Democrats believe the only legitimate elections are the ones Democrats win.

They don't care who votes, or if anyone votes. They'll take any ballot, pre-printed, fake, or cast by illegals.

Ironically, Democrats loath democracy.
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Democrat KKK has made that clear for decades.
 
Coyote said:
How many non-citizens voted in the last election?
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Study: 10% to 27% of Non-Citizens Are Illegally Registered to Vote
Based on the latest available data and an enhanced version of a stress-tested methodology from a scholarly journal, a new study by Just Facts has found that about 10% to 27% of non-citizen adults in the U.S. are now illegally registered to vote.

The U.S. Census recorded more than 19 million adult non-citizens living in the U.S. during 2022. Given their voter registration rates, this means that about two million to five million of them are illegally registered to vote. These figures are potentially high enough to overturn the will of the American people in major elections, including congressional seats and the presidency.
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Iowa secretary of state says 35 noncitizens' ballots were counted in 2024 election​

Thirty-five ballots cast by non-U.S. citizens were counted in Iowa’s 2024 general election, according to Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate.

He announced Thursday that his office completed a review of more than 2,000 suspected noncitizens on Iowa’s voter registration list using the federal SAVE program, to which the state of Iowa recently gained access.

Pate said he found 277 people on the voter registration list who are not U.S. citizens. He said 40 of them voted in the 2024 general election, and five of those ballots were rejected and not counted.
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Predictably, you will say that's no big deal.

But even one non-citizen voting is too many.
 
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