Votes must be counted by the end of Election Day.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.

For starters the votes are in the mail... That is OK... Postmarked and everything...

What is the hurry about the count... Many countries can take a few days counting... Counting all the votes should be the priority...

What about the self-addressed, postage paid ballots that are never postmarked? NY had to redo ballots in early October because they ignored that little tidbit. You couldn't tell when the ballot went through the mail system, opening up opportunities to cheat!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.

Your impatience must necessarily take a back seat to a citizen's right to have their vote counted.

Explain tactically why anyone who can request a mail-in ballot at least 2 months before a certain date cannot return by that stated date.

Why do you hate freedom?

Why do you hate thinking?

Explain tactically why anyone who can request a mail-in ballot at least 2 months before a certain date cannot return by that stated date.

Because they have freedom of choice!

Like a Driver's License?
Like needing Food Stamps?
Like showing up to the movie 30 minutes late and forcing the movie to start over again?

Explain tactically why anyone who can request a mail-in ballot at least 2 months before a certain date cannot return by that stated date.

It is there right... They are allowed that time to decide....

There right? What about there left?

The word is "their" and no it is not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You know most of the world doesn't start to count until the next day...

Goto polls on day one and count starts the next day 9 am...

Then how are they able to announce the winner that evening?

They don't... They announce who they think is going to win... It is not even close to offical....

There is a returning officer who is in charge of the count gives the actual results....

US is very machine count focused but other places the the returning officer announcement of results is a big thing of the count...

Lord Buckethead, Elmo and Mr Fishfinger: a very British election

Election watchers around the world puzzled by peculiar tradition in UK politics of quirky candidates

www.theguardian.com

The US tradition is very new and was basically set up for TV...

New? It has been that way all of my life and I will be 60 next week. That is not exactly new!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They don't... They announce who they think is going to win... It is not even close to offical....

There is a returning officer who is in charge of the count gives the actual results....

US is very machine count focused but other places the the returning officer announcement of results is a big thing of the count...

Lord Buckethead, Elmo and Mr Fishfinger: a very British election

Election watchers around the world puzzled by peculiar tradition in UK politics of quirky candidates

www.theguardian.com

The US tradition is very new and was basically set up for TV...

The media can't declare a winner without information coming from the states. Didn't you ever watch an election? They report so and so is ahead with 52% of the polling reporting.

It's not technically official until the House signs off on it which is a week or two later.

Not an accurate statement.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Many states manage to clear their mail-ins by the next morning. Why shouldn't ALL of them be capable of doing this? We've gone too far to "easy and convienient".. Need to bring it back to ACCURATE and RELIABLE and TIMELY...

Florida didn’t in 2000.

Also, because of the pandemic many many more are mailed. As far as voting is concerned, no, I do not agree we have gone “too easy and convenient”, not with something as important as voting. I don’t care what party you vote for, it’s important. As long as it is postmarked on time, it should be counted, just like voting at the polls.

Wrong! Florida stopped counting and Bush won. The recounts are what you are erroneously talking about.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Orange Jesus failed Civics. Votes are never fully counted on election day.

He's just trying to distract his cult.

If Trump failed civics, he has a lot of company as the vast majority of Democrats fall into that category about much more important things.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He will deny he did it, I've noticed liberals don't know anything about their candidates.

That's why they vote Democrat in the first place. They know nothing about politics or policies.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump is already whining..and sending lawyers..well..everywhere!

And he's the only one?

Biden Campaign Deploys 600 Lawyers So Trump Canât âSteal This Electionâ

The campaign is sending lawyers and volunteers to every state “to try to figure out whether chicanery is likely to take place.”

www.forbes.com

 

[colfax_m]

That's why they vote Democrat in the first place. They know nothing about politics or policies.

You elected the most clueless president in the history of the country.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nonsense.

We haven’t gone far enough to make voting easy and convenient; indeed, it’s incumbent upon the states to help facilitate the exercising a fundamental right such as voting.

I look forward to the day when Americans are voting online.

Conservatives complain in bad faith about voting being ‘too easy’ – it’s just another manifestation of conservatives seeking to suppress the right to vote for some perceived partisan advantage.

Just like the left wants to do by making it as easy as possible. Of course we on the right don't want to make it easy. We know many Democrats won't come out if their lazy ass has to put any effort into voting. It's why they fought so hard against Voter-ID. The problem is people who don't care enough about voting shouldn't be voting at all. The left knows they cater to the welfare class who are undereducated and certainly politically ignorant which is why they will vote for Democrats.

 

[Coyote]

l;/

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Many states manage to clear their mail-ins by the next morning. Why shouldn't ALL of them be capable of doing this? We've gone too far to "easy and convienient".. Need to bring it back to ACCURATE and RELIABLE and TIMELY...

Florida didn’t in 2000.

Also, because of the pandemic many many more are mailed. As far as voting is concerned, no, I do not agree we have gone “too easy and convenient”, not with something as important as voting. I don’t care what party you vote for, it’s important. As long as it is postmarked on time, it should be counted, just like voting at the polls.

Wrong! Florida stopped counting and Bush won. The recounts are what you are erroneously talking about.

It's still the same argument - i.e. ballots recieved after Election Day matter. You can't arbitrarily disregard them. It's up to the state.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Its okay whiner.....maybe next time.

 

[Coyote]

That's why they vote Democrat in the first place. They know nothing about politics or policies.

You elected the most clueless president in the history of the country.

And that is why a number of Republicans are "renting" Biden for four years. They aren't leaving their party, they recognize how dangerously incompetent Trump is.

 

[Coyote]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Its okay whiner.....maybe next time.

That makes no sense.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You elected the most clueless president in the history of the country.

That clueless President gave us the best economy in 50 years. Watch what happens if Creepy Joe wins. The stock market will tank the first day he's in office, and unlike under Trump, it won't bounce back for a long time.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Its okay whiner.....maybe next time.

That makes no sense.

Sure it does. Point being your whining won't matter it will be decided easily by this evening and you can go find another wacko to run next time.

 

[The Original Tree]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Only Satan Worshiping Commie Bastards want to extend the count so they can make up their deficits.

 

[Coyote]

Nonsense.

We haven’t gone far enough to make voting easy and convenient; indeed, it’s incumbent upon the states to help facilitate the exercising a fundamental right such as voting.

I look forward to the day when Americans are voting online.

Conservatives complain in bad faith about voting being ‘too easy’ – it’s just another manifestation of conservatives seeking to suppress the right to vote for some perceived partisan advantage.

Just like the left wants to do by making it as easy as possible. Of course we on the right don't want to make it easy. We know many Democrats won't come out if their lazy ass has to put any effort into voting. It's why they fought so hard against Voter-ID. The problem is people who don't care enough about voting shouldn't be voting at all. The left knows they cater to the welfare class who are undereducated and certainly politically ignorant which is why they will vote for Democrats.

They all have a right to vote, regardless of how much they care.

And...you know...those "lazy asses" often work multiple jobs trying to support their families, jobs that don't give them time off, they might lack a car, and their large county might have only one polling place, or their red state decided to shut down early voting on Sunday's so the "souls to polls" method of getting people to the polls also ended. Lots of things.

Your comment justifies things like literacy tests, poll taxes, and a host of systems designed to prevent people from voting by making the hurdles virtually insurmountable.

To sum it up: Republicans do everything they can to make voting harder, Democrats do everything they can to make voting easier.

 

[Coyote]

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day

"I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers," Trump said. But the vote totals are never fully counted the same day.

www.npr.org

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

Its okay whiner.....maybe next time.

That makes no sense.

Sure it does. Point being your whining won't matter it will be decided easily by this evening and you can go find another wacko to run next time.

Ah, I see. It's just another stupid comment.

 

[colfax_m]

That clueless President gave us the best economy in 50 years.

The best economy in 50 years? He couldn’t even get beyond 3% GDP growth. When it was Obama, that was labeled a total disaster by Trump himself.

As for the market, I’m not as worried.

Dow Futures Resume Surge on Election Day As Markets Price-in Potential Biden Win

Market action suggests bets on clear Electoral College win for former Vice President Joe Biden, but President Donald Trump can still find a path to victory with comebacks in key states.

www.thestreet.com