Voter Fraud

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It's a hoax


From the link:

"In 2008, disputes over the prevalence of voter fraud made their way to court. The American Civil Liberties Union sued Kris Kobach, then the secretary of state in Kansas, over a law he had helped get passed that required a birth certificate or passport to vote.

"It’s Kobach, in fact, who may have helped persuade President Trump to make wild claims that millions of undocumented immigrants voted in 2016 and enabled Hillary Clinton to win 3 million more votes than he did. Kobach is running this year for the U.S. Senate.

"But when the ACLU sued Kobach and he was forced to present evidence in a court of law, he could only offer proof of less than 40 noncitizens attempting to vote over a 20-year period in one of the state’s biggest counties. Most of those were the result of confusion or error, and only five of those 40 actually voted.

"Judge Julie Robinson, a Bush appointee, held Kobach in contempt of court and overturned the law, finding that it had disenfranchised “tens of thousands of voters.”"
 
If nobody's been making people hard-verify their identity and immigration status at the polling places, how would there be evidence of this happening whether it was taking place or not? The fact that nobody's been checking doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

Besides, if you move into a new home, do you not lock your doors when you leave right up until the first time someone robs you, and THEN start locking your door? Do you only have trepidation about kids bringing guns to class in schools where mass shootings have already taken place?
 
It's a hoax


From the link:

"In 2008, disputes over the prevalence of voter fraud made their way to court. The American Civil Liberties Union sued Kris Kobach, then the secretary of state in Kansas, over a law he had helped get passed that required a birth certificate or passport to vote.

"It’s Kobach, in fact, who may have helped persuade President Trump to make wild claims that millions of undocumented immigrants voted in 2016 and enabled Hillary Clinton to win 3 million more votes than he did. Kobach is running this year for the U.S. Senate.

"But when the ACLU sued Kobach and he was forced to present evidence in a court of law, he could only offer proof of less than 40 noncitizens attempting to vote over a 20-year period in one of the state’s biggest counties. Most of those were the result of confusion or error, and only five of those 40 actually voted.

"Judge Julie Robinson, a Bush appointee, held Kobach in contempt of court and overturned the law, finding that it had disenfranchised “tens of thousands of voters.”"
Yahoo news... :lol:
 
The uncomfortable fact is that where voter fraud exists, the Democrats are in total control of the entire voting machinery, and they fight tooth and nail to ensure that no real audit ever takes place. Hence, "No proof of voter fraud."

Is there any cogent American who does not know that hundreds of thousands of illegals voted in California in 2016? I doubt it.

Is there any cogent American who does not know in advance that armies of mainly-Soros-funded Democrat operatives will be scouring the bushes for uneducated, poor, unsophisticated potential voters, and offering to "help" them fill out their ballots and mail them in November?

Does anyone reading this NOT know why the Democrats are so keen to promote massive mail-in voting in November, rather than people going to the polls in person?

Get fucking serious.
 
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Voter fraud is as American as apple pie.

In the 19th century, one of our presidents was known as "His Fraudulency."

It is assumed that Senator Kennedy won the presidency over Vice President Nixon because of some vote tweaking in notoriously corrupt Chicago and in Texas (home state of VP candidate Lyndon Johnson. When Mr. Johnson first ran for the Senate, he was losing until some "lost" votes were conveniently found).

This election is going to be full of fraud. This ain't Scandinavia, you know. Many Americans do NOT want squeaky-clean elections. They just want their man/woman to win -- by any means possible. Shucks! Mexico now may have cleaner elections than we do!
 
Voter fraud is as American as apple pie.

In the 19th century, one of our presidents was known as "His Fraudulency."

It is assumed that Senator Kennedy won the presidency over Vice President Nixon because of some vote tweaking in notoriously corrupt Chicago and in Texas (home state of VP candidate Lyndon Johnson. When Mr. Johnson first ran for the Senate, he was losing until some "lost" votes were conveniently found).

This election is going to be full of fraud. This ain't Scandinavia, you know. Many Americans do NOT want squeaky-clean elections. They just want their man/woman to win -- by any means possible. Shucks! Mexico now may have cleaner elections than we do!
Funny how the not squeaky-clean elections always, ALWAYS, end up going to democrats... wouldn't you say?
 
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If nobody's been making people hard-verify their identity and immigration status at the polling places, how would there be evidence of this happening whether it was taking place or not? The fact that nobody's been checking doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

Besides, if you move into a new home, do you not lock your doors when you leave right up until the first time someone robs you, and THEN start locking your door? Do you only have trepidation about kids bringing guns to class in schools where mass shootings have already taken place?

Checking the status is the charge of each county/parish county clerk, and the Captain's on site of the polling place. The only reason the Republican Party has created that voter fraud is an epidemic is because they cannot win elections on their deeds and false promises.

BIG LIES and Wedge Issues are the sustenance of Republican Pols, they do not support democracy, even in their words they deny we are democratic republic, and have changed the words of what we are to constitutional republic; and that is sophistry.

The GOP cannot win elections without gerrymandering, voter suppression, demagoguery and charlatanism. Our democracy has been under attack for two centuries, if one considers that enough states amended COTUS to protect and expand voting rights.** Now they seek to make voting harder by not allowing votes by mail (which has been legal for decades), closing the hours to vote, moving polling places far and away from likely Democratic voters and using other methods to deny American Citizens their absolute Right to vote.

**Amendments 15, 19, 24 & 26
 
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If nobody's been making people hard-verify their identity and immigration status at the polling places, how would there be evidence of this happening whether it was taking place or not? The fact that nobody's been checking doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

Besides, if you move into a new home, do you not lock your doors when you leave right up until the first time someone robs you, and THEN start locking your door? Do you only have trepidation about kids bringing guns to class in schools where mass shootings have already taken place?

Checking the status is the charge of each county/parish county clerk, and the Captain's on site of the polling place. The only reason the Republican Party has created that voter fraud is an epidemic is because they cannot win elections on their deeds and false promises.

BIG LIES and Wedge Issues are the sustenance of Republican Pols, they do not support democracy, even in their words they deny we are democratic republic, and have changed the words of what we are to constitutional republic; and that is sophistry.

The GOP cannot win elections without gerrymandering, voter suppression, demagoguery and charlatanism. Our democracy has been under attack for two centuries, if one considers that enough states amended COTUS to protect and expand voting rights.** Now they seek to make voting harder by not allowing votes by mail (which has been legal for decades), closing the hours to vote, moving polling places far and away from likely Democratic voters and using other methods to deny American Citizens their absolute Right to vote.

**Amendments 15, 19, 24 & 26
ABSOLUTE... BULL SHIT... ^ ^ ^
 
If nobody's been making people hard-verify their identity and immigration status at the polling places, how would there be evidence of this happening whether it was taking place or not? The fact that nobody's been checking doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

Besides, if you move into a new home, do you not lock your doors when you leave right up until the first time someone robs you, and THEN start locking your door? Do you only have trepidation about kids bringing guns to class in schools where mass shootings have already taken place?

Checking the status is the charge of each county/parish county clerk, and the Captain's on site of the polling place. The only reason the Republican Party has created that voter fraud is an epidemic is because they cannot win elections on their deeds and false promises.

BIG LIES and Wedge Issues are the sustenance of Republican Pols, they do not support democracy, even in their words they deny we are democratic republic, and have changed the words of what we are to constitutional republic; and that is sophistry.

The GOP cannot win elections without gerrymandering, voter suppression, demagoguery and charlatanism. Our democracy has been under attack for two centuries, if one considers that enough states amended COTUS to protect and expand voting rights.** Now they seek to make voting harder by not allowing votes by mail (which has been legal for decades), closing the hours to vote, moving polling places far and away from likely Democratic voters and using other methods to deny American Citizens their absolute Right to vote.

**Amendments 15, 19, 24 & 26
ABSOLUTE... BULL SHIT... ^ ^ ^

Wow, another poster totally out of touch with reality. How sad.
 
If nobody's been making people hard-verify their identity and immigration status at the polling places, how would there be evidence of this happening whether it was taking place or not? The fact that nobody's been checking doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

Besides, if you move into a new home, do you not lock your doors when you leave right up until the first time someone robs you, and THEN start locking your door? Do you only have trepidation about kids bringing guns to class in schools where mass shootings have already taken place?

Checking the status is the charge of each county/parish county clerk, and the Captain's on site of the polling place. The only reason the Republican Party has created that voter fraud is an epidemic is because they cannot win elections on their deeds and false promises.

BIG LIES and Wedge Issues are the sustenance of Republican Pols, they do not support democracy, even in their words they deny we are democratic republic, and have changed the words of what we are to constitutional republic; and that is sophistry.

The GOP cannot win elections without gerrymandering, voter suppression, demagoguery and charlatanism. Our democracy has been under attack for two centuries, if one considers that enough states amended COTUS to protect and expand voting rights.** Now they seek to make voting harder by not allowing votes by mail (which has been legal for decades), closing the hours to vote, moving polling places far and away from likely Democratic voters and using other methods to deny American Citizens their absolute Right to vote.

**Amendments 15, 19, 24 & 26
Telling me who's job it is to root out voter fraud doesn't account for the fact that, when ID's don't actually get checked, there's no reason to believe that people lying about their identities actually would have been caught, which means that OBVIOUSLY you're not going to have evidence compiled of non citizens voting or people voting under assumed identities.

Even if you go into a rant about how Republicans are evil and can't win without cheating, you haven't justified why pointing out the lack of compiled evidence means DICK in this context.

You also haven't explained why it's a good idea not to start locking the door until AFTER we've established the house has been robbed. An opening for an exploit is an opening for an exploit regardless if anyone's actually used it yet.

Anyway, if all you have is more, "Republicans are evil!", then you might as well just save that nonsense. If you'd like to actually address the crux of the argument, get back to me.
 
Thread number 8,098,258 on liberals insinuating that blacks are to stupid to get an I.D.
 
Thread number 8,098,258 on liberals insinuating that blacks are to stupid to get an I.D.
No one is insinuating that. But getting an ID presents a barrier for some very poor people that you may not understand.
 
The only voter fraud is done by Republicans. Just today:

Oh, shit, is it ONLY Republicans who cheat?

Someone should tell CNN that.


Also, why are you okay with not fighting voter fraud if only one side does it? Wouldn't that make it worse than if the corruption was shared across the isle, at least in terms of skewing elections in one direction?
 

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