Volodymyr Zelenskyy: “I will never accept any decisions between the USA and Russia” About Peace in Ukraine

[JoeB131]

Of course Russia prefer to achive those vital goals with minimal losses. But if necessary - 50MM is an acceptable price, too. Its not just about 20 mln of Russians living in Ukraine, its more than that. The EU officially declared their goals as "decolonisation and dechristinisation of Russia".

well, first it's not 20 million, it's more like 8 million, and a large chunk of them lived in the Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014.

The rest of your rant sounds like you are listening to too much propaganda at the Troll Farm, Ivan.

You just don't know how to live and build cities in Tundra. And no, Alaska is not just Tundra. Its not just gold and oil and gas. Its not just a strategic Bering strait. Mostly important its a perfect place for IRBMs to attack US ICBMs.

We don't NEED to build cities in the Tundra, we have plenty of nice places in this country.

And shit, if you've ever lived through a Chicago Winter, you wouldn't talk to me about Tundras.

Really? That "standard" finished its existence after America's unprovoked and illegal aggressions against Serbia in 1999 and Iraq in 2003.

Your argument would hold water if we annexed those territories, which we didn't. We let the Iraqis have elect their own government, and we let Kosovo elect it's own government.

It mostly depends on your definition of the term "victim", but Russia, de-facto and de-juri defend itself.

Except Russia wasn't defending itself, it was fighting a war of aggression that it lost when they broke the seige of Kyiv.

Now they want Trump to do their bidding.

Denialism is a form of support of genocide. Of course there was genocide. It was an officially, publically and openly declared strategy of the Kievan regime. "Our children will go to school, and their children will be hiding in the basements".

Do you have a link to that? Because you are making all these claims, but the reality is, Ukraine was a lot more tolerant of the Donbas "Republics" than Russia has been of breakaway provinces in Chechnya.

Actually, its "I can invade if you discriminate, abuse and kill Russians, or if you are making the preparation to fight war against Russia". And most of countries are perfectly safe. And, actually, no one is safe with American "I can invade you just for lulz, without any particular reason".

Okay, buddy, you earned your Borscht Ration today at the Troll Farm.

 

[Zavulon]

well, first it's not 20 million, it's more like 8 million, and a large chunk of them lived in the Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014.

It depends how to count and who counts.

We don't NEED to build cities in the Tundra, we have plenty of nice places in this country.

Thats why Alaska is underdeveloped. Under Russian rule it will be much better and comfortable for life place.

And shit, if you've ever lived through a Chicago Winter, you wouldn't talk to me about Tundras.

And what is that special about Chicago winter?

Your argument would hold water if we annexed those territories, which we didn't. We let the Iraqis have elect their own government, and we let Kosovo elect it's own government.

Annexation means responsibility. You took lands from Serbia and made the nest of terrorists from Kosovo and Iraq.

Except Russia wasn't defending itself, it was fighting a war of aggression that it lost when they broke the seige of Kyiv.

Of course it was Russia defending itself. Kievan regime attacked Russian allies - DPR and LPR. And no, the root of problem and unsafety in Europe is NATO's expansion.

Do you have a link to that? Because you are making all these claims, but the reality is, Ukraine was a lot more tolerant of the Donbas "Republics" than Russia has been of breakaway provinces in Chechnya.

It was his famous speech in Odessa.

Okay, buddy, you earned your Borscht Ration today at the Troll Farm.

Oh, in those terrible times we don't have enough of money to make proper Borscht at the Troll farm. We eat barely fried hedgehogs. [Sarcasm]

 

[Jarlaxle]

And did you see how the idiot Mac1958 gave you a thumbs-up for insulting him?

He does that for every post he is mentioned in. At this point, I'm thinking it's a bot.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Yes, because you live in a fantasy land where Communism is ok. You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Your are a typical spoiled, idealistic, liberal American. YOU are exactly the kind of person our enemies want to dominate our society, because that would be the end of our country. They win without lifting a finger.



This is an absurdly uninformed statement. You are far too indoctrinated with which to have a reasonable conversation.

No, Joey is evil. Joey is the purest, darkest example of pure and undiluted evil on this site. He also laments the failure of the Endlösung der Judenfrage and is totally in favor of killing children, as long as they're Jews.

Pure ignorance. Extremist Muslims have built in grievances with everyone that doesn’t ascribe to their religion. You and others like you falsely believe that if we just leave them alone, they won’t hate or attack people not like them. That is patently false, but your indoctrination prevents you from being a realist.

Your idealism is showing again. The most Socialistic countries in Europe are also the most homogenous. Diversity and Socialism don’t mix. You guys are all over the map because you don’t know what you are talking about.

Not idealism. Evil.

Except--- we really didn't have a problem with the Islamic World before 1948, did we? They largely kept out of WWII (the Allies would have been truly fucked if they threw in with the Axis).

Ah, Joey...always wrong but ALWAYS certain! They DID "throw in" with the Axis, you lackwit! There was a German and Italian-backed coup in Iraq, and a month-long fight (the Anglo-Iraqi war) to put the coup down.

 

[Lisa558]

He does that for every post he is mentioned in. At this point, I'm thinking it's a bot.

Agree

 

[d0gbreath]

What a nasty POS you are. Why don’t YOU pay for the $160 billion we’ve spent on Ukraine? Or why don’t YOU pay for all the superfluous government employees you think should be able to keep their jobs?

Most people can recognize why our relatively small investment in Israel is worth it, and chose a president who does as well.

So now, over $250,000,000,000 is a small investment?

 

[Jarlaxle]

You are perfectly fine with Commie ideas like Social Security, Medicare, Veteran's Benefits, and unemployment insurance. You know, the things that keep white people out of poverty. You've just been convinced the rich shouldn't have to pay for these things, which is why we are 36 TRILLION dollars in debt. When the Democrats ran these things, we paid as we went.

I'm sure Trump and Musk are looking to find ways to cut these things, and when they do, it's going to be over for you guys.

Are you listening to those voices in your head again, Joey?

 

[Frankenstein]

So now, over $250,000,000,000 is a small investment?

So wait all of those programs that the USAID was funding, are better than funding our ally in Israel

 

[d0gbreath]

So wait all of those programs that the USAID was funding, are better than funding our ally in Israel

One is for weapons, the other is for food. You decide.

 

[Frankenstein]

One is for weapons, the other is for food. You decide.

Question, are there children in our country starving/going hungry? Are there men, and women in this country who served in the armed forces going hungry? Are there many without housing?

 

[d0gbreath]

Question, are there children in our country starving/going hungry? Are there men, and women in this country who served in the armed forces going hungry? Are there many without housing?

There aren't many people in the USA going hungry, much less starving.
There are many without housing.

 

[Frankenstein]

There aren't many people in the USA going hungry, much less starving.
There are many without housing.

There is no possible excuse for children to go hungry in this country. Yet it happens - every day, in every community. According to the latest estimates, as many as nearly 14 million children in the United States live in "food insecure" homes.

Child Hunger in America Statistics & Facts | No Kid Hungry

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www.nokidhungry.org

Do me a favor and go color in the corner

 

[SassyIrishLass]

There is no possible excuse for children to go hungry in this country. Yet it happens - every day, in every community. According to the latest estimates, as many as nearly 14 million children in the United States live in "food insecure" homes.

Child Hunger in America Statistics & Facts | No Kid Hungry

Child hunger in America statistics unveil a significant concern. More than 13 million children in the United States live in “food insecure” homes, according to recent research from the USDA. Learn how No Kid Hungry is solving the issue of child hunger.

www.nokidhungry.org

Do me a favor and go color in the corner

Unfortunately you're correct. I see it every time when our outreach sets up

I wonder why we send billions to other nations while our own suffer

 

[d0gbreath]

There is no possible excuse for children to go hungry in this country. Yet it happens - every day, in every community. According to the latest estimates, as many as nearly 14 million children in the United States live in "food insecure" homes.

Child Hunger in America Statistics & Facts | No Kid Hungry

Child hunger in America statistics unveil a significant concern. More than 13 million children in the United States live in “food insecure” homes, according to recent research from the USDA. Learn how No Kid Hungry is solving the issue of child hunger.

www.nokidhungry.org

Do me a favor and go color in the corner

I would appropriately color your face green, Frankie.

 

[Frankenstein]

I would appropriately color your face green, Frankie.

Is that your admission of wrong

 

[d0gbreath]

Is that your admission of wrong

No. From your link:

How many Americans live in poverty? 43 million, or 12.9% of all Americans. According to 2023 "Supplemental Poverty Measure" data from the U.S. Census Bureau 10 million of those are children. This marks another consecutive increase in the child poverty rate, now at 13.7%. This continued spike from 2021, when only 5.2% of children were living in poverty, is partly due to the expiration of the enhanced Child Tax Credit, which was implemented in July 2021. The rise in child poverty highlights the need to strengthen and protect programs like the Child Tax Credit, SNAP, WIC, and school nutrition programs, which invest in the future of our children.

Italics mine. Those are some of the targets of the trump GOP.
If you don't have food, go to the dumpster behind Micky D's and eat the "I took two whole bites!" Happy meals burgers until you're so full that you can't move. If you have "insecure food" try to keep it away from all of the neighborhood kids that will help themselves.

The only kids that starve in the US are the ones that are being tortured by their loving parents.

 

[Frankenstein]

No. From your link:

How many Americans live in poverty? 43 million, or 12.9% of all Americans. According to 2023 "Supplemental Poverty Measure" data from the U.S. Census Bureau 10 million of those are children. This marks another consecutive increase in the child poverty rate, now at 13.7%. This continued spike from 2021, when only 5.2% of children were living in poverty, is partly due to the expiration of the enhanced Child Tax Credit, which was implemented in July 2021. The rise in child poverty highlights the need to strengthen and protect programs like the Child Tax Credit, SNAP, WIC, and school nutrition programs, which invest in the future of our children.

Italics mine. Those are some of the targets of the trump GOP.
If you don't have food, go to the dumpster behind Micky D's and eat the "I took two whole bites!" Happy meals burgers until you're so full that you can't move. If you have "insecure food" try to keep it away from all of the neighborhood kids that will help themselves.

The only kids that starve in the US are the ones that are being tortured by their loving parents.

nearly 14 million children in the United States live in "food insecure" homes.

 

[JoeB131]

It depends how to count and who counts.

Nope. Only 8 million ethnic Russians, most of them in Crimea.

And what is that special about Chicago winter?

It's freaking cold.

Annexation means responsibility. You took lands from Serbia and made the nest of terrorists from Kosovo and Iraq.

NO, we returned those places to the people who live there.

Of course it was Russia defending itself. Kievan regime attacked Russian allies - DPR and LPR. And no, the root of problem and unsafety in Europe is NATO's expansion.

Wow, guy, seriously?

It was his famous speech in Odessa.

Whose famous speech? It's in Ukrainian, so I don't know what he's saying, but since that's not Zelenskyy, who cares.

Oh, in those terrible times we don't have enough of money to make proper Borscht at the Troll farm. We eat barely fried hedgehogs. [Sarcasm]

I guess, the Russian Trolls seem angrier these days.

Are you listening to those voices in your head again, Joey?

Naw, Ditchweed, I listen to the shit you guys actually.

"I'm against Socialism".

"OK, let's end social security and medicare!"

"No, I paid into those!!!!"

 

[Zavulon]

Nope. Only 8 million ethnic Russians, most of them in Crimea.

You know, ethnicity is much more flexible feature than, say, gender. Especially "ethnicity" as artificial as "Ukrainians". How many ethnic Californians or Hillbillies live in the USA? "A difference within the range of acceptable differences is not a difference"
My mom was a Ukrainian. Ukrainians are Russians. And Kievan regime still have almost twenty millions of them.

It's freaking cold.

Really?
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The daily average high temperature in January at O'Hare is 31.0 °F (−0.6 °C) with the average daily low of 16.5 °F (−8.6 °C) and the daily mean of 23.6 °F (−4.7 °C). Temperatures drop to or below 0 °F (−18 °C) on 5.5 nights annually at Midway and 8.2 nights at O'Hare and up to 10–14 nights in some far western and northern suburbs,[28] although subzero (°F) readings in the absence of snow cover are rare.[29] There have been streaks of multiple winter seasons without a single subzero reading, yet there have also been winters with 20 or more subzero readings. The highest temperature recorded during the meteorological winter months of December, January, and February is 75 °F (24 °C), set on February 27, 1976. The lowest temperature recorded during meteorological winter is −27 °F (−33 °C), set on January 20, 1985. In addition, the all-time record low maximum temperature of −11 °F (−24 °C) was set on December 24, 1983, and tied on January 18, 1994.
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Seems rather warm for me. Even warmer than in Moscow, say nothing about Norilsk or Yakutsk.

In the popular Russian military song "We'll roll up our sleeves" Chicago described as almost subtropical place, even with some Coconut trees.

NO, we returned those places to the people who live there.

Really? Thats why that many of them left those places?

Wow, guy, seriously?

Yes. Totally serious.

Whose famous speech? It's in Ukrainian, so I don't know what he's saying, but since that's not Zelenskyy, who cares.

Its Poroshenko, previous Ukrainian president. In this speech he describes how exactly he suppose to win the war against rebellious Donbass. By continuous terror mostly against civilians, including children. "Our children will go to schools and kindergarten and their children will be hiding in basements". What is worse - both Europe and America totally approved his approach.

I guess, the Russian Trolls seem angrier these days.

Can't say about other Russians, but I'm quite pleased. However low are our chances to achieve really reliable peace, Ukrainian and European reactions are priceless.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Naw, Ditchweed, I listen to the shit you guys actually.

"I'm against Socialism".

"OK, let's end social security and medicare!"

"No, I paid into those!!!!"

You never saw that from me. You're lying again .