Venezuela's Welfare Has Run Out. Now They Want Ours

excalibur

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Spot on!

This is Cloward-Piven being run by Biden and the Democrats.

And yeah, Democrats really don't care about you or America.

…. Asylum is nothing but a conveyer belt to bring the worst people on Earth to our shores. You say you turned your own country into a hellhole? Fantastic! Come right in!
… Take the Venezuelan illegal aliens whom DeSantis sent to Martha's Vineyard. Biden's press secretary and human kewpie doll, Karine Jean-Pierre, repeatedly referred to the briefly loved illegals as "people who are fleeing communism, who are fleeing hardship ... desperate people -- people who are trying to come here because they're fleeing communism themselves."

How did Venezuela become communist again?
As The Martha's Vineyard Times explained (once the illegals were safely expelled and the island fumigated), Venezuela's "humanitarian crisis" resulted from that country's "complicated political and socioeconomic history."
Actually, it's not that complicated. Poor people in Venezuela voted for it. Oh boy, did they vote for it.
The ridiculous peasant Hugo Chavez promised Venezuela's poor that he would take vengeance on the rich -- "the squalid ones" -- and give their stuff to the poor. Millions of poor people responded: YESSSSS!!!
Beginning in 1998, and five times after that, the poor came out in droves to support this clown. Fist pumping! Dancing in the streets! Red shirts as far as the eye could see!
As The New York Times described it, "To the adoring, impoverished masses who catapulted him to power, Hugo Chavez Frias is El Comandante, their protector and benefactor, the bold leader who will wipe out 40 years of inequality and corruption and redirect this country's enormous oil wealth to better their lives."
Chavez basically promised to deliver the Ta-Nehisi Coates "equity" agenda that's so popular with the Democratic Party right now. The poor believed the rich were rich because they had stolen from the poor. Chavez vowed to take it back. It was sort of a 1619 Project for Venezuela.

As promised, Chavez proceeded to seize private businesses, farms (by 2011, he'd expropriated 6 million acres of farmland) and golf resorts, telling poor people to move onto the club greens.​
Anybody want asylum yet? Nope!​
Between 1998 and Chavez's death in 2013 -- whereupon he was promptly replaced with his handpicked successor, President Nicolas Maduro --

Venezuela's poor voted for him over and over and over again: in 1998 (80% public approval rating his first year in office), in 2000 (winning 60% of the vote), in 2004 (59% against recalling him), in 2006 (winning 63% of the vote), in 2009 (54% voted to make him president for life) and finally in 2012 (winning 55% of the vote).
Never has any public been polled more often and returned the same resounding answer.

Well, they're not fist-pumping anymore. Instead, Venezuela's poor are claiming they "deserve" to access America's generous welfare state.
Twenty years of Chavez's Diversity, Inclusion and Equity (DIE!) produced this: "a country whose economy has collapsed ... malnutrition and disease are soaring [and m]illions have emigrated to escape the grind of finding enough to eat, of living without reliable electricity or tap water," as Bloomberg News put it in 2019.
Venezuela is sitting on the largest oil reserves in the world, and the communists still couldn't get it to work.
Who could have seen that coming??? Oh, anyone with two functioning brain cells. There were little hints, like Chavez promising his very first year in office "to follow the path of Fidel," and describing Cuba as "a sea of happiness, social justice and true peace."
Millions of Venezuela's poor thought that sounded just peachy, and the rest did nothing. They act as if this 100% predictable catastrophe was a natural disaster for which they bear no responsibility.
… Now that their own choices have wrecked their country, they demand free admission into ours. Unless they're professional baseball players, I'm not seeing what's in it for us.

 
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The Venezuelan immigrants are telling us just how great Socialism is.

And yet, they're running away to a country (the US) where they can can get bigger and better socialist benefits like welfare and other free shit.

Go figure.
 
Right, the elections of Chavez and Maduro have nothing to do with it.
Those two acted against US demands on their oil resources.

The popular story for Americans is that America had to try to save the poor people of Venezuela. Or in other words, the same reason as was used in America's 39 other wars of aggression since the end of WW2.
 
The US is the cause of all of Venezuela's problems.

They would prosper greatly from their oil resources if it wasn't for US meddling in their affairs.

If the US is the cause of everyone's problems and is such a horrible place, then why do they keep coming here?
 
Spot on!
This is Cloward-Piven being run by Biden and the Democrats.
And yeah, Democrats really don't care about you or America.

The thing is, it didn't have to be this way.
In Nazi Germany approximately 100 Nazi soldiers put 6 million Jews to death.

If at any time as few as 1000 Jews had rushed the armed Nazi troops and overwhelmed them, that small group could have saved millions.
Humans are the same as cattle. One evil person could easily slaughter thousands because humans are so compliant, self absorbed and afraid.
 
If the US is the cause of everyone's problems and is such a horrible place, then why do they keep coming here?

It's not.
Victims gonna be victims.
If anything, America advanced their nation and brought wealth to the entire continent.
Those with something to offer and the will to achieve became wealthy. Socialists wanted free shit. Money for nothing.

Fucking ingrate socialist pigs.
(sorry to insult the pigs)
 
Since when did the wealthy or the elites ever give a damn about the mass populace?

That's the problem ... they do give a damn. They obviously don't want to dirty their own hands, but their version of giving a damn is to make sure the rest of us have to.

Open borders, sanctuary cities, welfare and social services for illegals, those policies make sure that they can be seen to be caring, just so long as someone else actually deals with the issue.

I prefer the old days when the elites ignored us...

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I want to know, who in Venezuela, is threatening to torture all these people? Do they even have the money to pay someone to torture them, and why would they?


I want names. I want evidence of the agency within the Venezuelan government, photos, film, documented evidence that there are human rights abuses going on.

Otherwise? I call bullshit. All of these folks being let in under, "Asylum?" Garbage. It is clearly an abuse of US and international law, and there is no, "there," there, all built on lies.


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The US is the cause of all of Venezuela's problems.

They would prosper greatly from their oil resources if it wasn't for US meddling in their affairs.
Wrong.

Socialism is the cause of their problems

You are both correct.

One the one hand, Venezuela's government is highly centralized, inefficient, and somewhat corrupt, while it gives more benefits to the domestic indigenous populations, and does not make good on its international commitments to capital received from international financing institutions. This causes it to get no help from badly needed outside petrochemical expertise. And why should they expect that? They nationalized everything, and kicked them all out?

OTH, since the political revolution and the seizure of western financial interests, the Bank of International Settlements, and the Anglo-American financial and the Seven Sisters has done every thing it can, including trying to stage a coup in Venezuela, to take control of the petroleum. The international oligarchs have frozen the socialist government out of the international market, the international economy, making it impossible to govern domestically, no matter how inefficient and corrupt their government is, which, after the death of Chavez, I am afraid, is quite considerable indeed. No one had any loyalty to the system any longer.

With that said?

This does NOT indicate, that anyone, is torturing anyone else. Nor have I read, or seen any such ridiculous report of such.

. . but then, I do admit, I do not stay up to date on everything, so I suppose it is possible there is torture and mass human rights abuses I have not heard of. . . anyone?

:dunno:
 
Republicans need to repeal the law on asylum. Sorry, but the Democrats/left broke it and now they all come here and claim asylum.
 
Republicans need to repeal the law on asylum. Sorry, but the Democrats/left broke it and now they all come here and claim asylum.
If they did that, they would be kicked off of the Security Council in the UN.

Believe it our not, like it or not, we do have a World Confederated Government, and it is not as toothless as some would have Americans believe.

If this pandemic treaty gets passed and approved in 2024, it may even become more powerful than our federal government.

This "agenda," has more to do than with just the DNC.

World Economic Forum Admits You Will Own Nothing & Be Happy (video recently removed from WEF site)​

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