Vegans! What do you think of them?

[Amelia]

I don't see that you shared how you heard of our site there, or who invited you, either.

Huh, really? I think I explained it pretty well in my intro post, but...

No one invited me. I came across this forum when I typed in "Earthlings movie message board" and found an inspiring thread so I wanted to join the site to get in touch with the thread starter.

Hope that clears it up.

Ignore her. She's a loon. And so mean that you might wonder what cruel vicissitudes of life made her that way, but don't get sucked in.

 

[Indofred]

Not yet. But did you ever think we'd see laws that would force everyone to accept gay marriage?

I refuse to marry a poof; I want to marry a really butch dude.
Tell me about your forced marriage to a man.

Ahem! I did not say forced to marry a gay, did I? No. But everyone is being forced to accept gay marriage.

You said, "But did you ever think we'd see laws that would force everyone to accept gay marriage?"
I simply asked you to tell us about your enforced gay marriage.
Is your gay husband good in bed?
Do you share being the 'man' or do you prefer one role or the other when you roll?

I don't believe anyone is forced to accept a gay marriage as I don't believe anyone is forced to accept a vegan lifestyle.

Vegans exist and that existence is of no harm to anyone except a few fools who force their own blood pressure up because they need to knock the way others want to live.

 

[VeganMe]

@ thanatos - You think I'm an idiot for talking about other sources of protein? Well, you're entitled to your opinion so I won't say anything more about it to you if you don't wish me to. I only want to share with people who want to learn. Like I said, I will never be pushy with someone if they disagree with my lifestyle choice. Live and let live.

@ gallantwarrior - Thanks for the nice words. There is a difference between "preachy, hateful vegan" and "calm, laid-back vegan" that I don't think most people recognize. I think when people hear "vegan" they automatically think of the crazies (who happen to be loud and obnoxious) the media always portrays. Sometimes orgs like PETA do a disservice to their own cause, by being so insulting about their methods. (IMO).

 

[gallantwarrior]

See I like veggies.....Mostly served on the side with a steak but hey if you dont want meat thats fine.....But to say it is a moral choice like I am somehow this immoral barbarian cause I like a burger with real cow in it is quite annoying.

I'll be the first to say that I didn't get that impression at all. VM seems to be just pretty excited about having made this choice and has even offered to share her (his) knowledge. Believe me, I will be one of the first to squawk if I perceive a typical preachy tone...really.

Well you see

I recently became vegan (for ethical reasons) and realized that it's much easier than I previously anticipated it would be. So that puts a smile on my face. I'm wondering what those who post here think of veganism.

And, if anyone has any questions about the lifestyle, feel free to ask!

The first post says otherwise.

I hunt for ethical reasons (at least in part). I celebrate the clean, swift death of an animal that I have stalked, killed, and will use to maximum effect. There is something truly spiritual about watching the light fade from the eyes of a worthy adversary...and I know that my meat has lived its life as it was meant to...

 

[thanatos144]

I'll be the first to say that I didn't get that impression at all. VM seems to be just pretty excited about having made this choice and has even offered to share her (his) knowledge. Believe me, I will be one of the first to squawk if I perceive a typical preachy tone...really.

Well you see

I recently became vegan (for ethical reasons) and realized that it's much easier than I previously anticipated it would be. So that puts a smile on my face. I'm wondering what those who post here think of veganism.

And, if anyone has any questions about the lifestyle, feel free to ask!

The first post says otherwise.

I hunt for ethical reasons (at least in part). I celebrate the clean, swift death of an animal that I have stalked, killed, and will use to maximum effect. There is something truly spiritual about watching the light fade from the eyes of a worthy adversary...and I know that my meat has lived its life as it was meant to...

You want a ethical reason? My family doesnt starve and gets protein they need to survive and grow. Whats makes it unethical?????

 

[gallantwarrior]

I refuse to marry a poof; I want to marry a really butch dude.
Tell me about your forced marriage to a man.

Ahem! I did not say forced to marry a gay, did I? No. But everyone is being forced to accept gay marriage.

You said, "But did you ever think we'd see laws that would force everyone to accept gay marriage?"
I simply asked you to tell us about your enforced gay marriage.
Is your gay husband good in bed?
Do you share being the 'man' or do you prefer one role or the other when you roll?

I don't believe anyone is forced to accept a gay marriage as I don't believe anyone is forced to accept a vegan lifestyle.

Vegans exist and that existence is of no harm to anyone except a few fools who force their own blood pressure up because they need to knock the way others want to live.

At least I haven't seen any vegans lobbying to change long accepted mores and influence passing laws to change definitions that need no changing in order to obtain an equal advantage under law.

 

[Indofred]

A mate of mine in the UK went from veggie to vegan.
A Hindu, Indian parented chap is 'normal' in every other way except for is bloody terrible humour and his epic fails as an author, his two books sold out......eventually.

He did teach me a couple of things about veganism.
Try Indian restaurants. You'd be shocked at the number of vegan choices on the menu.
Vegan food can be tasty, not just for rabbits.

Not that I'll be joining the vegan club any time soon but I refuse to knock a harmless lifestyle choice.

Agreed. I like Indian food, the spices are just about perfect. But they do prepare foods using meat, as well. I usually substitute goat for lamb (it's what I have). I had a Pakistani pal for a while. I used to love going to his place for dinner. But you need to be prepared for spicy hot chow. The whole neighborhood smelled of curry.

North Indian and Pakistani food is, mostly, amazing.
Ruddy hard to get out here and one of the things I most miss about the UK.

 

[Amelia]

My 10-year-old nephew recently decided to go vegan.

I think his parents eat fish and eggs but he decided to take it further.



Edit: Maybe it was just "vegetarian" that he decided to go. Is that different from "vegan"? *blushing that I don't know*

 

[bobcollum]

How the hell does a 10 year old even have the interest in becoming a vegan?

 

[Indofred]

Well you see




The first post says otherwise.

I hunt for ethical reasons (at least in part). I celebrate the clean, swift death of an animal that I have stalked, killed, and will use to maximum effect. There is something truly spiritual about watching the light fade from the eyes of a worthy adversary...and I know that my meat has lived its life as it was meant to...

You want a ethical reason? My family doesnt starve and gets protein they need to survive and grow. Whats makes it unethical?????

That depends on your ethics,
Some people believe it's wrong to harm animals.
Given it makes shit all difference to you or anyone else, why do you feel the need to moan about it?

 

[gallantwarrior]

@ thanatos - You think I'm an idiot for talking about other sources of protein? Well, you're entitled to your opinion so I won't say anything more about it to you if you don't wish me to. I only want to share with people who want to learn. Like I said, I will never be pushy with someone if they disagree with my lifestyle choice. Live and let live.

@ gallantwarrior - Thanks for the nice words. There is a difference between "preachy, hateful vegan" and "calm, laid-back vegan" that I don't think most people recognize. I think when people hear "vegan" they automatically think of the crazies (who happen to be loud and obnoxious) the media always portrays. Sometimes orgs like PETA do a disservice to their own cause, by being so insulting about their methods. (IMO).

PETA represents a group of arrogant assholes who want things their way, now. No exceptions. As stated, I am a hunter. I have my reasons. Given their way, the people of PETA would eliminate what is basically part of my spiritual relationship with the world I live in. The relationship between vegans/vegetarians/PETA is in some way like one of the questions on the GREs with those intersecting circles...all PETA members are vegans, but all vegans are not PETA members.

 

[VeganMe]

@ Amelia - Good for him! I just hope he has researched being a healthy vegan. It's easy to become malnourished if he doesn't know what foods to go for and only eats fruits + veggies. Please let him know that there is a vegan on the site you visit who would be willing to help him out (if he has any questions about food).

 

[Indofred]

How the hell does a 10 year old even have the interest in becoming a vegan?

Some 10 year old kids are brighter than many adults.
I have a couple of 9 year old kids in school who can make valid points on a wide variety of social subjects.
A lot better than many posters on here can manage.

 

[VeganMe]

@ thanatos - You think I'm an idiot for talking about other sources of protein? Well, you're entitled to your opinion so I won't say anything more about it to you if you don't wish me to. I only want to share with people who want to learn. Like I said, I will never be pushy with someone if they disagree with my lifestyle choice. Live and let live.

@ gallantwarrior - Thanks for the nice words. There is a difference between "preachy, hateful vegan" and "calm, laid-back vegan" that I don't think most people recognize. I think when people hear "vegan" they automatically think of the crazies (who happen to be loud and obnoxious) the media always portrays. Sometimes orgs like PETA do a disservice to their own cause, by being so insulting about their methods. (IMO).

PETA represents a group of arrogant assholes who want things their way, now. No exceptions. As stated, I am a hunter. I have my reasons. Given their way, the people of PETA would eliminate what is basically part of my spiritual relationship with the world I live in. The relationship between vegans/vegetarians/PETA is in some way like one of the questions on the GREs with those intersecting circles...all PETA members are vegans, but all vegans are not PETA members.

While I don't like anything being killed, HUNTING is ten million times more humane than buying meat in a supermarket (that was raised, tortured and slaughtered in a disgusting factory farm).

I have much more respect for a hunter who goes for a swift and painless kill (via bullet) than someone who works in a factory farm and inhumanely treats animals before killing them. Props to you for that.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Well you see




The first post says otherwise.

I hunt for ethical reasons (at least in part). I celebrate the clean, swift death of an animal that I have stalked, killed, and will use to maximum effect. There is something truly spiritual about watching the light fade from the eyes of a worthy adversary...and I know that my meat has lived its life as it was meant to...

You want a ethical reason? My family doesnt starve and gets protein they need to survive and grow. Whats makes it unethical?????

Dude, read me right...I have no problem with hunting to feed your family. There is nothing unethical about hunting to feed yourself and your own.

 

[thanatos144]

I hunt for ethical reasons (at least in part). I celebrate the clean, swift death of an animal that I have stalked, killed, and will use to maximum effect. There is something truly spiritual about watching the light fade from the eyes of a worthy adversary...and I know that my meat has lived its life as it was meant to...

You want a ethical reason? My family doesnt starve and gets protein they need to survive and grow. Whats makes it unethical?????

That depends on your ethics,
Some people believe it's wrong to harm animals.
Given it makes shit all difference to you or anyone else, why do you feel the need to moan about it?

They can believe all they want but to say they are Ethical is saying cause I eat meat I am not and dammit I find that arrogance despicable.

 

[gallantwarrior]

A mate of mine in the UK went from veggie to vegan.
A Hindu, Indian parented chap is 'normal' in every other way except for is bloody terrible humour and his epic fails as an author, his two books sold out......eventually.

He did teach me a couple of things about veganism.
Try Indian restaurants. You'd be shocked at the number of vegan choices on the menu.
Vegan food can be tasty, not just for rabbits.

Not that I'll be joining the vegan club any time soon but I refuse to knock a harmless lifestyle choice.

Agreed. I like Indian food, the spices are just about perfect. But they do prepare foods using meat, as well. I usually substitute goat for lamb (it's what I have). I had a Pakistani pal for a while. I used to love going to his place for dinner. But you need to be prepared for spicy hot chow. The whole neighborhood smelled of curry.

North Indian and Pakistani food is, mostly, amazing.
Ruddy hard to get out here and one of the things I most miss about the UK.

It's impossible to find around here, unless you make it yourself.

 

[Amelia]

How the hell does a 10 year old even have the interest in becoming a vegan?

My nephew's family was halfway there - no beef, pork or chicken if I understand correctly. They have six kids, some with dietary restrictions because of allergies, so they do a lot of fresh food and very little processed food. And anyway, that was his big announcement this summer.


But p.s. after I wrote that I realized that he might only have said "vegetarian" ... and I don't know if that's the same as vegan.

 

[VeganMe]

@ Amelia - nope. Vegetarians and vegans are different. Vegetarians can eat everything but meat. And vegans don't eat anything with animal products, period. (Including dairy, honey and eggs).

 

[gallantwarrior]

How the hell does a 10 year old even have the interest in becoming a vegan?

They learn about stuff like that in school, nowadays.