Vegans! What do you think of them?

[koshergrl]

I don't see that you shared how you heard of our site there, or who invited you, either.

 

[thanatos144]

who cares?

 

[Indofred]

So does being a vegan mean no oral sex?

I assume it's fine as long as they don't swallow.
I'm happy to allow any vegan ladies to use me for practice.

 

[bobcollum]

I don't see that you shared how you heard of our site there, or who invited you, either.

Are you writing a ******* book?

 

[koshergrl]

I'm working a hunch.

 

[VeganMe]

I don't see that you shared how you heard of our site there, or who invited you, either.

Huh, really? I think I explained it pretty well in my intro post, but...

No one invited me. I came across this forum when I typed in "Earthlings movie message board" and found an inspiring thread so I wanted to join the site to get in touch with the thread starter.

Hope that clears it up.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I don't think anyone (maybe a few nut jobs) is suggesting laws to force vegan dinners on anyone.

Not yet. But did you ever think we'd see laws that would force everyone to accept gay marriage?

For what it's worth, my views go to show that not all vegans are "pot-smoking hippies with dreadlocks" as is commonly shown in media. I'm not liberal or conservative but somewhere in between - depends on the issue. I support traditional marriage, which again proves that not all vegans have a liberal mindset.

I never said vegans are pot-smoking hippies. I know a few vegans and I actually sell some of my yogurt to Sikhs, who claim to be Ayurveda vegetarians. My biggest concern is that many vegans and vegetarians tend to be convinced that their choice is the right choice to save the planet. Having that self-righteous conviction, many (not all) do proselytize their choice and they also indicate a desire to "persuade" the recalcitrant, come hell or high water. Of course, the end justifies the means and government/politicians are more than happy to pander to any "special" group if they think that group will work for the politicians' benefit.

 

[Politico]

I have no problem with Vegans. I have a problem when they go out of their way to tell me about it.

 

[VeganMe]

Not yet. But did you ever think we'd see laws that would force everyone to accept gay marriage?

For what it's worth, my views go to show that not all vegans are "pot-smoking hippies with dreadlocks" as is commonly shown in media. I'm not liberal or conservative but somewhere in between - depends on the issue. I support traditional marriage, which again proves that not all vegans have a liberal mindset.

I never said vegans are pot-smoking hippies. I know a few vegans and I actually sell some of my yogurt to Sikhs, who claim to be Ayurveda vegetarians. My biggest concern is that many vegans and vegetarians tend to be convinced that their choice is the right choice to save the planet. Having that self-righteous conviction, many (not all) do proselytize their choice and they also indicate a desire to "persuade" the recalcitrant, come hell or high water. Of course, the end justifies the means and government/politicians are more than happy to pander to any "special" group if they think that group will work for the politicians' benefit.

I understand this POV. Heck, I used to be annoyed by many vegan attitudes before I became one. Watched Earthlings and BAM! My mind changed overnight. I remember (before I changed) thinking how snobbish, arrogant and annoying vegans were. I've since learned that not all of us are the loud-mouthed, offensive members of PETA. Many are quieter and gentler...I like to consider myself one of those

And none of us think our choices "save the world." Of course not. We just know that our choices no longer support animal killing or cruelty. (Just one issue of many in the world). But I would never be so arrogant as to tell somebody else how to live or eat. That is their personal choice just like veganism is mine.

 

[bobcollum]

KG if you smell a sock you're supposed to report it, no?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Most of your "substitutes" for meat, cheese, milk, etc are made from GMO soy and corn products, particularly corn syrup. You might want to educate yourself a bit before committing to their consumption..

Only if you don't look around for the right things.

Indonesia has, along with a lot of other things, Tempe. (Pro, tempay).
100% vegan but all the proteins and so on of meat.
100% organic in most cases and tastes great.
I'm far from a vegan or veggie but I have to like that stuff.
Tastes great and can be prepared in a wide variety of ways.
My favourite is thin sliced and fried with a spicy sauce, then served on rice.

I suggest the OP give it a try.
Tempeh

Buddhists have come up with a lot of interesting meat substitutes over the years that aren't all that bad, too. There's a Chinese dish I have had in the past that is tofu seasoned and cooked to taste like pork. If I didn't know better, I'd have definitely thought that it was pork.

Oh, I do like tofu. You can do a lot of things with it, but you do have to be wary of the source. Tofu is also known as "bean curd", as in soy bean. Soy is almost all GMO now. It's been pushed my Monsanto and other agri-giants. Be aware that GMO crops do not self-propagate (make viable seeds). Do you think there's a reason why? They also do many other, very unhealthy things to those plants when they bio-engineer them.

 

[thanatos144]

For what it's worth, my views go to show that not all vegans are "pot-smoking hippies with dreadlocks" as is commonly shown in media. I'm not liberal or conservative but somewhere in between - depends on the issue. I support traditional marriage, which again proves that not all vegans have a liberal mindset.

I never said vegans are pot-smoking hippies. I know a few vegans and I actually sell some of my yogurt to Sikhs, who claim to be Ayurveda vegetarians. My biggest concern is that many vegans and vegetarians tend to be convinced that their choice is the right choice to save the planet. Having that self-righteous conviction, many (not all) do proselytize their choice and they also indicate a desire to "persuade" the recalcitrant, come hell or high water. Of course, the end justifies the means and government/politicians are more than happy to pander to any "special" group if they think that group will work for the politicians' benefit.

I understand this POV. Heck, I used to be annoyed by many vegan attitudes before I became one. Watched Earthlings and BAM! My mind changed overnight. I remember (before I changed) thinking how snobbish, arrogant and annoying vegans were. I've since learned that not all of us are the loud-mouthed, offensive members of PETA. Many are quieter and gentler...I like to consider myself one of those

And none of us think our choices "save the world." Of course not. We just know that our choices no longer support animal killing or cruelty. (Just one issue of many in the world).

You do know one of the first things they do to brainwash a person is take away protein mostly found in meat right???I think this is one of the reasons the Veggies always fall for the stupidest shit that is put in front of them... Like a happy meal is evil.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I don't think anyone (maybe a few nut jobs) is suggesting laws to force vegan dinners on anyone.

Not yet. But did you ever think we'd see laws that would force everyone to accept gay marriage?

I refuse to marry a poof; I want to marry a really butch dude.
Tell me about your forced marriage to a man.

Ahem! I did not say forced to marry a gay, did I? No. But everyone is being forced to accept gay marriage.

 

[VeganMe]

I never said vegans are pot-smoking hippies. I know a few vegans and I actually sell some of my yogurt to Sikhs, who claim to be Ayurveda vegetarians. My biggest concern is that many vegans and vegetarians tend to be convinced that their choice is the right choice to save the planet. Having that self-righteous conviction, many (not all) do proselytize their choice and they also indicate a desire to "persuade" the recalcitrant, come hell or high water. Of course, the end justifies the means and government/politicians are more than happy to pander to any "special" group if they think that group will work for the politicians' benefit.

I understand this POV. Heck, I used to be annoyed by many vegan attitudes before I became one. Watched Earthlings and BAM! My mind changed overnight. I remember (before I changed) thinking how snobbish, arrogant and annoying vegans were. I've since learned that not all of us are the loud-mouthed, offensive members of PETA. Many are quieter and gentler...I like to consider myself one of those

And none of us think our choices "save the world." Of course not. We just know that our choices no longer support animal killing or cruelty. (Just one issue of many in the world).

You do know one of the first things they do to brainwash a person is take away protein mostly found in meat right???I think this is one of the reasons the Veggies always fall for the stupidest shit that is put in front of them... Like a happy meal is evil.

Actually, the meat industry is responsible for putting the myth out there that meat is the only place people can get their protein. Vegans get protein from many sources, including beans, tofu, fake meat and hummus, just to name a few. SOUNDS like crap, but is actually very tasty.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Only if you don't look around for the right things.

Indonesia has, along with a lot of other things, Tempe. (Pro, tempay).
100% vegan but all the proteins and so on of meat.
100% organic in most cases and tastes great.
I'm far from a vegan or veggie but I have to like that stuff.
Tastes great and can be prepared in a wide variety of ways.
My favourite is thin sliced and fried with a spicy sauce, then served on rice.

I suggest the OP give it a try.
Tempeh

Buddhists have come up with a lot of interesting meat substitutes over the years that aren't all that bad, too. There's a Chinese dish I have had in the past that is tofu seasoned and cooked to taste like pork. If I didn't know better, I'd have definitely thought that it was pork.

Interesting you mention Buddhists.
Hindus have spread a lot of veggie foods as well.
Here, poverty forces a veggie diet on many but it can be pretty good.
My first Chinese girlfriend said I was too fat and put me on Chinese traditional food.
I lost 20kg in two months and felt bloody great.
There was meat in there but in small quantities.

What kind of meat?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C_IcUmdELY]Pit bull meat fresh in China- ALWAYS FRESH dog meat hanging - - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Indofred]

A mate of mine in the UK went from veggie to vegan.
A Hindu, Indian parented chap is 'normal' in every other way except for is bloody terrible humour and his epic fails as an author, his two books sold out......eventually.

He did teach me a couple of things about veganism.
Try Indian restaurants. You'd be shocked at the number of vegan choices on the menu.
Vegan food can be tasty, not just for rabbits.

Not that I'll be joining the vegan club any time soon but I refuse to knock a harmless lifestyle choice.

 

[gallantwarrior]

See I like veggies.....Mostly served on the side with a steak but hey if you dont want meat thats fine.....But to say it is a moral choice like I am somehow this immoral barbarian cause I like a burger with real cow in it is quite annoying.

I'll be the first to say that I didn't get that impression at all. VM seems to be just pretty excited about having made this choice and has even offered to share her (his) knowledge. Believe me, I will be one of the first to squawk if I perceive a typical preachy tone...really.

 

[thanatos144]

I understand this POV. Heck, I used to be annoyed by many vegan attitudes before I became one. Watched Earthlings and BAM! My mind changed overnight. I remember (before I changed) thinking how snobbish, arrogant and annoying vegans were. I've since learned that not all of us are the loud-mouthed, offensive members of PETA. Many are quieter and gentler...I like to consider myself one of those

And none of us think our choices "save the world." Of course not. We just know that our choices no longer support animal killing or cruelty. (Just one issue of many in the world).

You do know one of the first things they do to brainwash a person is take away protein mostly found in meat right???I think this is one of the reasons the Veggies always fall for the stupidest shit that is put in front of them... Like a happy meal is evil.

Actually, the meat industry is responsible for putting the myth out there that meat is the only place people can get their protein. Vegans get protein from many sources, including beans, tofu, fake meat and hummus, just to name a few. SOUNDS like crap, but is actually very tasty.

No they dont idiot....Meat is just the most plentiful way to get protein....And the most tasty but thanks for proving my point about how the lack of enough protein makes one gullible.

 

[thanatos144]

See I like veggies.....Mostly served on the side with a steak but hey if you dont want meat thats fine.....But to say it is a moral choice like I am somehow this immoral barbarian cause I like a burger with real cow in it is quite annoying.

I'll be the first to say that I didn't get that impression at all. VM seems to be just pretty excited about having made this choice and has even offered to share her (his) knowledge. Believe me, I will be one of the first to squawk if I perceive a typical preachy tone...really.

Well you see

I recently became vegan (for ethical reasons) and realized that it's much easier than I previously anticipated it would be. So that puts a smile on my face. I'm wondering what those who post here think of veganism.

And, if anyone has any questions about the lifestyle, feel free to ask!

The first post says otherwise.

 

[gallantwarrior]

A mate of mine in the UK went from veggie to vegan.
A Hindu, Indian parented chap is 'normal' in every other way except for is bloody terrible humour and his epic fails as an author, his two books sold out......eventually.

He did teach me a couple of things about veganism.
Try Indian restaurants. You'd be shocked at the number of vegan choices on the menu.
Vegan food can be tasty, not just for rabbits.

Not that I'll be joining the vegan club any time soon but I refuse to knock a harmless lifestyle choice.

Agreed. I like Indian food, the spices are just about perfect. But they do prepare foods using meat, as well. I usually substitute goat for lamb (it's what I have). I had a Pakistani pal for a while. I used to love going to his place for dinner. But you need to be prepared for spicy hot chow. The whole neighborhood smelled of curry.