CDZ Vaccines, Yay or Nay?

[Hang on Sloopy]

Well, the delta variant should take care of a few of you.

Most of the people who die are obese people.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

If we did not listen to Dr Fauci and ultra crucial info was not censored. The death toll would be way lower. Critical meds were not used and proven because of TDS early.

Political use of this virus has been a real killer.

The total abcense of Dr Fauci and his refusal to appear proves it all you know.

I'm very pro vax but smart enough to know TDS killed way more people than anything

 

[justinacolmena]

I think vaccines for the most part are just fine... So long as I can have some legal response should they go wrong, and I haven't already had that which I'm being vaccinated against.

Truth is, vaccines are not okay, and the doctors who administer them are secretly commissioned by the Department of the Army, where they've copped a court-martial so you will never have any redress or recourse should something go wrong.

That's from the days of the Bureau of Indian Affairs in the 1800s, with Army backing to enforce European vaccination protocols on Native American children.

Polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, the docs have used every dirty trick in the book for that shit they insist on shooting under the skin of innocent children.

Think about the Immaculate Conception and Birth of Jesus Christ. Did the Christ child need to be pricked with a needle or shot up with vaccines? No. Not until the day of His crucifixion was he pierced with iron nails through His hands and feet, and a spear through His side.

 

[sakinago]

Ah the old “conspiracy theory” trope without actually providing evidence, because I haven’t heard about it, therefore it’s

I have heard about these things. I have looked into them. They are all false. You are spreading conspiracy theories.

Stop. People are dying.

Which are conspiracy theories? Should be easy to debunk. If you’ve done it already. Have at it.

 

[sakinago]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

Wtf is this paragraph? Its not even an article it’s a paragraph. It’s certainly not news. Certainly not scientific. Nearly all guys who get labeled a douche have yet to buy underwear with hearts on them. See what I did there. The language is so vague you could drive a bus full of statisticians through it.

Yes people are dying. Ask yourself why India, who was just in the throes of the terrible, no good, dastardly delta variant, has 1/7 of our death per million rate? A country with 3 times the population of the US, and that reeks of feces because they haven’t installed plumbing for most people. It’s because of Ivermectin at the onset of symptoms. If “people dying” was your concern why was our strategy to send people home after a confirmed diagnosis? With no treatments. No meds. And then we told them to only come back in when your symptoms have progressed to a dangerous place, and then we’ll treat you when effectively all of our treatments would be useless. Please name me another disease in which we do nothing for until it gets really bad? We don’t even wait to confirm a diagnosis of strep throat without sending the patient home with antibiotics. You probably haven’t even heard of ivermectin, yet you are complaining about people dying.

 

[justinacolmena]

Nearly all guys who get labeled a douche have yet to buy underwear with hearts on them

Hell is that all about? Some hooker dying to get in bed with a sick dude and get laid, there's a doctor with a hollow needle and a syringe full of something to finish him off if he doesn't measure up as the man to her liking, but boy, she'd better be vaccinated, too, and share the same needle, or he doesn't trust what's going on at that crazy STD clinic in that part of town.

COVID, you say? COVID-19? Damn, the ladies have to be at least that old so the gentlemen don't risk getting in trouble with the law if they're underage.

 

[sakinago]

Nearly all guys who get labeled a douche have yet to buy underwear with hearts on them

Hell is that all about? Some hooker dying to get in bed with a sick dude and get laid, there's a doctor with a hollow needle and a syringe full of something to finish him off if he doesn't measure up as the man to her liking, but boy, she'd better be vaccinated, too, and share the same needle, or he doesn't trust what's going on at that crazy STD clinic in that part of town.

COVID, you say? COVID-19? Damn, the ladies have to be at least that old so the gentlemen don't risk getting in trouble with the law if they're underage.

Are you high?

 

[otto105]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

If we did not listen to Dr Fauci and ultra crucial info was not censored. The death toll would be way lower. Critical meds were not used and proven because of TDS early.

Political use of this virus has been a real killer.

The total abcense of Dr Fauci and his refusal to appear proves it all you know.

I'm very pro vax but smart enough to know TDS killed way more people than anything

Wrong, very wrong.

 

[Quasar44]

Potterhead2021
Vaccines are great !’ A huge victory in the endless battle between man vs virus

Anyone who rejects the c vaccine is playing with fire !!

 

[Quasar44]

These whacky extreme Christians are just nuts

 

[Crepitus]

Ah the old “conspiracy theory” trope without actually providing evidence, because I haven’t heard about it, therefore it’s

I have heard about these things. I have looked into them. They are all false. You are spreading conspiracy theories.

Stop. People are dying.

Which are conspiracy theories? Should be easy to debunk. If you’ve done it already. Have at it.

I've already pointed that out. Read the thread.

 

[Crepitus]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

Wtf is this paragraph? Its not even an article it’s a paragraph. It’s certainly not news. Certainly not scientific. Nearly all guys who get labeled a douche have yet to buy underwear with hearts on them. See what I did there. The language is so vague you could drive a bus full of statisticians through it.

Yes people are dying. Ask yourself why India, who was just in the throes of the terrible, no good, dastardly delta variant, has 1/7 of our death per million rate? A country with 3 times the population of the US, and that reeks of feces because they haven’t installed plumbing for most people. It’s because of Ivermectin at the onset of symptoms. If “people dying” was your concern why was our strategy to send people home after a confirmed diagnosis? With no treatments. No meds. And then we told them to only come back in when your symptoms have progressed to a dangerous place, and then we’ll treat you when effectively all of our treatments would be useless. Please name me another disease in which we do nothing for until it gets really bad? We don’t even wait to confirm a diagnosis of strep throat without sending the patient home with antibiotics. You probably haven’t even heard of ivermectin, yet you are complaining about people dying.

Read the link.

 

[Shelzin]

Read the link.

Your link is more reliable because....?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

If we did not listen to Dr Fauci and ultra crucial info was not censored. The death toll would be way lower. Critical meds were not used and proven because of TDS early.

Political use of this virus has been a real killer.

The total abcense of Dr Fauci and his refusal to appear proves it all you know.

I'm very pro vax but smart enough to know TDS killed way more people than anything

So, essentially you're blaming Trump for polarizing everything, and making it impossible for people to work together because of him.

 

[Shelzin]

So, essentially you're blaming Trump for polarizing everything, and making it impossible for people to work together because of him.

No. Everybody should own their own stupid. Trump didn't, and doesn't, make people act all stupid. They were either already that way, or hate has taken hold. Both instances is the fault of the individual.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, essentially you're blaming Trump for polarizing everything, and making it impossible for people to work together because of him.

No. Everybody should own their own stupid. Trump didn't, and doesn't, make people act all stupid. They were either already that way, or hate has taken hold. Both instances is the fault of the individual.

So what's the point of a leader? We know that with good leadership things work better. A virus like Covid requires good leadership to overcome this. WE KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE. Good leadership in other countries has led to less problems.

And yet in places where the leaders are/were wackos, the UK, Brazil, the US, it's all gone to shit.

 

[Crepitus]

Read the link.

Your link is more reliable because....?

It's not from known conspiracy whack-jobs.

 

[sakinago]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

Wtf is this paragraph? Its not even an article it’s a paragraph. It’s certainly not news. Certainly not scientific. Nearly all guys who get labeled a douche have yet to buy underwear with hearts on them. See what I did there. The language is so vague you could drive a bus full of statisticians through it.

Yes people are dying. Ask yourself why India, who was just in the throes of the terrible, no good, dastardly delta variant, has 1/7 of our death per million rate? A country with 3 times the population of the US, and that reeks of feces because they haven’t installed plumbing for most people. It’s because of Ivermectin at the onset of symptoms. If “people dying” was your concern why was our strategy to send people home after a confirmed diagnosis? With no treatments. No meds. And then we told them to only come back in when your symptoms have progressed to a dangerous place, and then we’ll treat you when effectively all of our treatments would be useless. Please name me another disease in which we do nothing for until it gets really bad? We don’t even wait to confirm a diagnosis of strep throat without sending the patient home with antibiotics. You probably haven’t even heard of ivermectin, yet you are complaining about people dying.

Read the link.

Link has been read. Your article barely addresses any of the questions I brought up. The only thing it addresses is whether or not the vaccine shows efficacy. It does a laughable job at that. It should also be noticed that I never really question whether or not the vaccine works, but I question wether this vaccine is worth the risk (as long as you’re in an at risk group and you haven’t already been exposed to COVID) now that we have a damn good treatment in ivermectin. If you wanna listen to journalism degrees pretending to be scientist, doctors and statisticians, using stats from the CDC who’ve already been caught twisting their own numbers (see teens catching COVID at alarming rates, most recent example) on multiple occasions. I’m going to continue to listen to the actual doctors treating COVID.

Your also going to have to explain why the most vaccinated country in Israel by far is locking down again. Or why the numbers between Israel and say Russia or Germany (both are sub 20% vaccinations) aren’t that different from Israel.

But no, all we get from you is “take your vaccine plebe. Even when you’re not at risk and are not a vector, take it anyway and don’t question big pharma and fauci ever. Pay no attention to other countries, pay no attention to doctors actually treating COVID, pay no attention to ivermectin.”

 

[Crepitus]

Toffeenut Baconsmuggler Crepitus
Whether or not it has been tested is not the issue and “safe” is a very relative term. Whether or not this can be considered a vaccine is also debatable.

A normal vaccine is using inactive virus or virus shards as a WANTED sign (like in the old west) for the immune system to recognize the metaphorical bank robbers (the virus) before they have a chance to rob the bank. mRNA “vaccine” takes over the cells “protein factory” section in order to produce part of the virus (antigen) that antibodies would attach too. Going back to the old west metaphor, this would be like a mad scientist taking over the police department and growing a hand of the bank robber so that the police department can then sketch out a wanted sign. Here’s the issue, did the mad scientist grow a hand that can walk around a la adams family style and rob the bank anyway if it gets out of the police department. Yeah that’s basically what’s happening with this vaccine. The creators chose to go with using the spike protein of the virus as the thing to have our body grow. It was the easier route to take as opposed to using another part. They nerfed the spike protein a bit, but did not render it totally inert. Which they claimed would not be a problem because these spike proteins would never leave the injection site, or the police station in the metaphor. Turns out they were very wrong about that. In most cases it doesn’t, but in more cases than should be acceptable, it does leave the injection site. That spike proteins is toxic, and causes quite the doozie of an immune response Im wondering how they were able to make the claim “it will never leave the injection site” with how many cases are popping up showing the opposite. Food for thought.

That’s just one issue with the vaccines. The “is it safe” question is a very relative one. If your definition is there’s a low chance that any harm will come to you if you take it, then yah I guess you could claim that. If the question is, is it safe compared to other vaccines, the answer is hell no. Over 6,000 deaths from this vaccine alone. More than all the other vaccines combined since we’ve been measuring deaths from vaccines. That’s just deaths, not the adverse reactions some of which can be major and life changing. That’s getting damn near close to surpassing all other vaccines combined. The real question should be is it worth the risk taking this vaccine? Any doctor worth their salt when asked which is better, natural immunity or vaccine immunity will tell you it is natural by a long shot. Natural immunity provides about 1000 different “wanted signs” of the virus in different disguises. Vaccine immunity is only about 50 different wanted signs with different disguises of the bank robber. So, what we should first be doing is finding out whose had COVID or not. If we were selling a normal and safe vaccine for something somebody’s already had, like smallpox, I’d still consider that to be wrong because they don’t need it. Doing it with something that’s brand new technology that’s had minimal testing is absolutely insane. Second, we know who this virus effects. Whose at risk of serious complications and who isn’t. Basically, anyone under 50 should NOT be getting this vaccine. Older than that should be a personal choice. Forcing this on kids in order to go to school, who we know barely even get the sniffles from this virus if at all, is nothing short of criminal. I’ve heard of cases where kids get the first injection, get myocarditis (heart infection) requiring some pretty serious in patient hospital treatment, and then when they‘ve “recovered enough” are given the second dose. Everyone involved in that should be given a stool to stand on, a necklace connected to the rafters, then have the stool kicked out from under them.

Now a new question is popping up. Does this “vaccine” even deliver on what it promises? It certainly doesn’t look like it’s 94% effective looking at the numbers. The reinfection rate numbers are not looking good either. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend any of my family members get this vaccine, no matter their age or health status. Especially with ivermectin looking more and more like a miracle drug against COVID. Take your chances with COVID, and demand ivermectin on the onset of symptoms. Let me put it this way, this is the only disease in which upon confirming a diagnosis, a doctor will send you home without any treatment or medication, and tell you to not come in unless you basically can’t breath anymore and it’s too late to use any treatment options. It is insane. Despite the scare porn with the Delta variant in india, India is 3X the population of the US, yet 1/7 deaths per million cases of the US. Why? Because most Indian Provinces/states decided to use HCQ and ivermectin at the ONSET of symptoms.

What we are seeing in the US with hospitals and medicine vs COVID is one giant Milgram experiment, except people are actually dying. Our doctors let state and corporate “guidelines” do their thinking for them because they’re too lazy to think, or are afraid of lawsuits by going against this giant big pharma money grab. An “authority figure” in a lab coat is telling our doctors it is perfectly safe to shock the other test subject to death that’s begging them to stop the shocking, and they just shrug their shoulders and continue shocking. This is insane. As an RN for almost 10 years now, I never thought the medical community would ever be this compromised by the almighty dollar, politics, and Bureaucracy. I always thought we’d follow the science and literature, and doctors would more often than not choose what is best for their patients. Boy was I wrong.

That's a whole lotta typing just to repeat a buncha debunked conspiracy theories.

The mRNA vaccines have a very limited lifespan in the body. It does it's thing and goes away. It's not hanging around to "rob the bank". The harmless protein fragments it manufactures do exactly the same thing as the deactivated virus vaccines do. They train the immune system to respond, nothing more.

There have been very few adverse reactions to the vaccines. If that weren't true they would have stopped them while they figured out what was happening, as they did for the J&J shot. Your "6000 deaths from this vaccine alone" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

The number the effectiveness numbers are accurate. The simple fact is that well over 99% of the new infections are unvaccinated. That's just reality.

Your antivaxer bullshit is killing people. Stop it.

Oh I also forgot to point out that A. No it’s not 99% effective as far as “new infections”. Nor have the manufacturers ever made that claim. Their claim has ALWAYS been it is to reduce the intensity of symptoms in most cases. So, right there you just proved you’re pulling “facts” and “numbers” out of a nearby tunnel where the sun doesn’t shine. B. Isn’t it funny how they finally decided to recommend turning down the PCR rate for COVID testing down to 15, where it should have been all along, but only when it applies to REINFECTION AFTER RECIEVING THE VACCINE. Very interesting. And for those of you who don’t know about the PCR testing rates, basically top virologist at Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc, have been screaming bloody murder about the cycle rates being set at 30 as opposed to 10, maybe 15, and how it’s going to create a bunch of false positives. Basically, the higher the number the more sensitive the test is, and if you were to turn it up to 35, the test would read back positive almost no matter what. Using a metaphor it’s like you should be using a magnifying glass to inspect for COVID, and instead you skip over the binocs, the telescope, and straight to the magnifying glass, and now everything looks like COVID.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

Wtf is this paragraph? Its not even an article it’s a paragraph. It’s certainly not news. Certainly not scientific. Nearly all guys who get labeled a douche have yet to buy underwear with hearts on them. See what I did there. The language is so vague you could drive a bus full of statisticians through it.

Yes people are dying. Ask yourself why India, who was just in the throes of the terrible, no good, dastardly delta variant, has 1/7 of our death per million rate? A country with 3 times the population of the US, and that reeks of feces because they haven’t installed plumbing for most people. It’s because of Ivermectin at the onset of symptoms. If “people dying” was your concern why was our strategy to send people home after a confirmed diagnosis? With no treatments. No meds. And then we told them to only come back in when your symptoms have progressed to a dangerous place, and then we’ll treat you when effectively all of our treatments would be useless. Please name me another disease in which we do nothing for until it gets really bad? We don’t even wait to confirm a diagnosis of strep throat without sending the patient home with antibiotics. You probably haven’t even heard of ivermectin, yet you are complaining about people dying.

Read the link.

Link has been read. Your article barely addresses any of the questions I brought up. The only thing it addresses is whether or not the vaccine shows efficacy. It does a laughable job at that. It should also be noticed that I never really question whether or not the vaccine works, but I question wether this vaccine is worth the risk (as long as you’re in an at risk group and you haven’t already been exposed to COVID) now that we have a damn good treatment in ivermectin. If you wanna listen to journalism degrees pretending to be scientist, doctors and statisticians, using stats from the CDC who’ve already been caught twisting their own numbers (see teens catching COVID at alarming rates, most recent example) on multiple occasions. I’m going to continue to listen to the actual doctors treating COVID.

Your also going to have to explain why the most vaccinated country in Israel by far is locking down again. Or why the numbers between Israel and say Russia or Germany (both are sub 20% vaccinations) aren’t that different from Israel.

But no, all we get from you is “take your vaccine plebe. Even when you’re not at risk and are not a vector, take it anyway and don’t question big pharma and fauci ever. Pay no attention to other countries, pay no attention to doctors actually treating COVID, pay no attention to ivermectin.”

I quit. You just can't argue with conspiracy whack-a-doodles.

Have a nice day, enjoy your covid.

 

[sakinago]

Read the link.

Your link is more reliable because....?

It's not from known conspiracy whack-jobs.

Who are these conspiracy whack jobs you are referring too? I could give you the name of highly credentialed doctors and researchers, many of whom are actually treating COVID. You gave stats from a source that already has been caught lying, compiled by 2 AP journalists.

Dr Peter McCullough

Dr. Bryan Tyson

Dr Pierre Kory

Dr Mobeen Syad

Dr Robert Malone

Dr Ryan Cole
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDkhlL6UDOY

Let me just state that outside of the Rogan interview with Pierre Kory, I didn’t watch any of the videos I posted before hand. I just posted the first ones that came up. I don’t even know if they refer to the vaccines. I do know however they will burn to ground, with great prejudice, the COVID scare porn and big pharma propaganda that you are regurgitating. All of the docs have impressive credentials.