Utah plans to take US land through eminent domain

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The Utah Senate has approved the use of eminent domain to take federal land in the state.

More than 60 percent of Utah is owned by the U.S. government, and policy makers here have long complained that federal ownership hinders their ability to generate tax revenue and adequately fund public schools.

ksl.com - Utah plans to take US land through eminent domain

Now that's a good use of eminent domain.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

This should be interesting.

 

[uscitizen]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

Then what is a proper use of eminent domain? Stealing from private citizens to give to the government? Turn about is fair play.

 

[rightwinger]

Send in the US Army

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

 

[uscitizen]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

Then what is a proper use of eminent domain? Stealing from private citizens to give to the government? Turn about is fair play.

Wrong is wrong.

Just cause they did it too is childish.

 

[Ringel05]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

Shades of Fort Sumter, legal style.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

Shades of Fort Sumter, legal style.

Yep and we know how well that worked out.

 

[Oddball]

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

The audacity was in the feds seizing it to begin with.

What's the point of having states?

 

[uscitizen]

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

The audacity was in the feds seizing it to begin with.

What's the point of having states?

You got me, I don't live in a state.

Perhaps the point in having states is to increase the overal size of government and taxes collected/spent?

 

[Ringel05]

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

Shades of Fort Sumter, legal style.

Yep and we know how well that worked out.

If Utah wins I'll be looking for the legal version of Sherman to spearhead the Feds reaction.

 

[Foxfyre]

Generate tax revenue? Sounds like they are going to sieze federal land and sell it to individuals.
That is NOT a proper use of eminent domain.

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

Is that worse than the audacity of the federal government to think that they can seize whatever state lands they want? The people of Utah were furious with Bill Clinton when he did that in 1996.

From the Feb 25 AP:

SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah House has approved a bill that would allow the state to take federally owned land through the use of eminent domain.

Lawmakers approved the legislation 57-13 on Thursday. Republican Rep. Chris Herrod, the bill's sponsor, says the federal government violated its contract with Utah when it gained statehood by not selling the lands.

Many people in Utah are still angry about then-President Bill Clinton's designation of the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in 1996.

Herrod hopes to use eminent domain to take lands at the monument that have large coal reserves. Herrod says development of the reserves could help fund the state's schools.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

The audacity was in the feds seizing it to begin with.

What's the point of having states?

The point of having states is to give people of different backgrounds and interests a certain independence while being a part of the whole nation. It didn't start out that way, but that is what it has become.

I agree with you, but can you do? Besides bitch about it. Absolutely nothing.

 

[uscitizen]

Ahh Coal.

It becomes clearer.

 

[Oddball]

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

The audacity was in the feds seizing it to begin with.

What's the point of having states?

You got me, I don't live in a state.

Perhaps the point in having states is to increase the overal size of government and taxes collected/spent?

Google "dual sovereignty" and get the education that you were deprived of in school.

 

[JWBooth]

It is my desire that Utah prevails in this matter.

 

[Foxfyre]

What I find amusing is the audacity of a state to think that they can seize federal land in the first place.

The audacity was in the feds seizing it to begin with.

What's the point of having states?

The point of having states is to give people of different backgrounds and interests a certain independence while being a part of the whole nation. It didn't start out that way, but that is what it has become.

I agree with you, but can you do? Besides bitch about it. Absolutely nothing.

It started out that way. Each state would be under the edicts of the U.S. Constitution charged to secure and defend the individual rights of the people in all states, but otherwise each state was to be its own sovereign entity free to order whatever society it wanted to have. So it started out that way, but over the decades, the federal government has been incrementally taking more and more power from the states.

If we do not stop that trend, it is not beyond belief that the states will effecively cease to have power to govern at all.

 

[uscitizen]

I repeat I do not live in a state. I live in a commonwealth.

sounds kind of socialistic doesn't it? but it is a red commonwealth.

 

[bodecea]

This should be interesting.

I agree....grab the popcorn.