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Does this look like a welding curtain?
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Not in that view ......Nope........Does this look like a welding curtain?
Not in that view ......Nope........Does this look like a welding curtain?
It is draped under the railing and is just big enough to cover the name of the shipNot in that view ......Nope........Does this look like a welding curtain?
That's because it is not!
Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Nobody is questioning the tarp and maintenance barge were removed prior to the eventThe Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Furthermore...........Show me the gangway pictures from the pier to the USS McCain on the day of the event. They put up name tarps on the gangway to the pier. On that it names the ship, which would be seen by anyone on the pier or across the bay for that matter.
Riddle me this. The Washington Compost says the email is from the Navy.
1. How did the Washington Compost obtain that email? That would be a CONFIDENTIAL email for 7th FLEET procedures and guidelines.
2. Where is the VERIFICATION of the EMAIL?
3. If it is CONFIDENTIAL, then WHO RELEASED IT TO THE MEDIA??? If someone in the NAVY did this.......IF ......IF.....IF.........IF......it's True......then they are releasing information to the Media that can BE CHARGED via UNDER the USMJ for it.........Captain's Mast........Admirals Mast......and/or COURT MARTIAL.
The LEFT is fond of LEAKS......Real or IMAGINARY........The Washington Compost among others have been Lying their little Asses off for years now with UNVERIFIED stories..............they HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE.
This is another TYPICAL post of LEFT WINGERS .............Make ACCUSATIONS...........Don't PROVE IT..............then DEMAND those ACCUSED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE...................
In this country...........Proven til found guilty..............the LEFT has made a MOCKERY OF THIS STATEMENT.
Hell yes!Still going on about this?
According to the discussion welding on the deck was happening on that ship. Welding curtains and/or Welding screens are commonly used when there are average people nearby so they don't look at the arc.Why put a tarp over the name of the ship.I did 10 years in the Navy...........Then I have been in the Construction field for decades plus............we use blinds when welding all the dang time. It is an OSHA requirement...........in many cases. They build scaffolding huts for welding as a practice.............AGAIN........All the time.......Now that I know welding was going on it is not hard to figure that they used a blind on it for welding the deck.You know, there were several times in my career as a young sailor that I was called to stand Fire Watch. That is where someone is doing some hot work such as welding or using a torch, and you have to have people on the other side of the work, standing by with a fire extinguisher to put out fires if they happened.
Not once did I see the HT's use a tarp.
How long ago was that? Current construction practice is to use welding blinds or tarps to stop someone from being flashed.
I retired back in 2002, but if you want to see what the fire watch procedures currently are for the U.S. Navy, here's a link. Nothing in it about tarps.
https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Portals/103/Documents/SSRAC/NSI/FY15/009-35_FY15.pdf
So I call this was to cover the name up another TDS moment as usual.
What were you welding?
So.........lets have a party on a ship.....invite civilians to watch them weld..........and for extra fun stare at the sun for 2 hours so we can be like Ray Charles after...........
The Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Furthermore...........Show me the gangway pictures from the pier to the USS McCain on the day of the event. They put up name tarps on the gangway to the pier. On that it names the ship, which would be seen by anyone on the pier or across the bay for that matter.
Riddle me this. The Washington Compost says the email is from the Navy.
1. How did the Washington Compost obtain that email? That would be a CONFIDENTIAL email for 7th FLEET procedures and guidelines.
2. Where is the VERIFICATION of the EMAIL?
3. If it is CONFIDENTIAL, then WHO RELEASED IT TO THE MEDIA??? If someone in the NAVY did this.......IF ......IF.....IF.........IF......it's True......then they are releasing information to the Media that can BE CHARGED via UNDER the USMJ for it.........Captain's Mast........Admirals Mast......and/or COURT MARTIAL.
The LEFT is fond of LEAKS......Real or IMAGINARY........The Washington Compost among others have been Lying their little Asses off for years now with UNVERIFIED stories..............they HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE.
This is another TYPICAL post of LEFT WINGERS .............Make ACCUSATIONS...........Don't PROVE IT..............then DEMAND those ACCUSED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE...................
In this country...........Proven til found guilty..............the LEFT has made a MOCKERY OF THIS STATEMENT.
An invitation to witness a Presidential speech would be classified?The Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Furthermore...........Show me the gangway pictures from the pier to the USS McCain on the day of the event. They put up name tarps on the gangway to the pier. On that it names the ship, which would be seen by anyone on the pier or across the bay for that matter.
Riddle me this. The Washington Compost says the email is from the Navy.
1. How did the Washington Compost obtain that email? That would be a CONFIDENTIAL email for 7th FLEET procedures and guidelines.
2. Where is the VERIFICATION of the EMAIL?
3. If it is CONFIDENTIAL, then WHO RELEASED IT TO THE MEDIA??? If someone in the NAVY did this.......IF ......IF.....IF.........IF......it's True......then they are releasing information to the Media that can BE CHARGED via UNDER the USMJ for it.........Captain's Mast........Admirals Mast......and/or COURT MARTIAL.
The LEFT is fond of LEAKS......Real or IMAGINARY........The Washington Compost among others have been Lying their little Asses off for years now with UNVERIFIED stories..............they HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE.
This is another TYPICAL post of LEFT WINGERS .............Make ACCUSATIONS...........Don't PROVE IT..............then DEMAND those ACCUSED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE...................
In this country...........Proven til found guilty..............the LEFT has made a MOCKERY OF THIS STATEMENT.
Are you SURE that e-mail would have been considered classified? I worked in the personnel office for over 20 years in the Navy, and I can tell you that at least half of the message traffic we got in concerning basic operations were all marked unclassified.
An invitation to witness a Presidential speech would be classified?The Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Furthermore...........Show me the gangway pictures from the pier to the USS McCain on the day of the event. They put up name tarps on the gangway to the pier. On that it names the ship, which would be seen by anyone on the pier or across the bay for that matter.
Riddle me this. The Washington Compost says the email is from the Navy.
1. How did the Washington Compost obtain that email? That would be a CONFIDENTIAL email for 7th FLEET procedures and guidelines.
2. Where is the VERIFICATION of the EMAIL?
3. If it is CONFIDENTIAL, then WHO RELEASED IT TO THE MEDIA??? If someone in the NAVY did this.......IF ......IF.....IF.........IF......it's True......then they are releasing information to the Media that can BE CHARGED via UNDER the USMJ for it.........Captain's Mast........Admirals Mast......and/or COURT MARTIAL.
The LEFT is fond of LEAKS......Real or IMAGINARY........The Washington Compost among others have been Lying their little Asses off for years now with UNVERIFIED stories..............they HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE.
This is another TYPICAL post of LEFT WINGERS .............Make ACCUSATIONS...........Don't PROVE IT..............then DEMAND those ACCUSED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE...................
In this country...........Proven til found guilty..............the LEFT has made a MOCKERY OF THIS STATEMENT.
Are you SURE that e-mail would have been considered classified? I worked in the personnel office for over 20 years in the Navy, and I can tell you that at least half of the message traffic we got in concerning basic operations were all marked unclassified.
It is routine message traffic. Why doesn’t the Navy just release it and show that the crew of the McCain was on the invite?
Dude..........A President is about to visit........average people show up. LOLAccording to the discussion welding on the deck was happening on that ship. Welding curtains and/or Welding screens are commonly used when there are average people nearby so they don't look at the arc.Why put a tarp over the name of the ship.I did 10 years in the Navy...........Then I have been in the Construction field for decades plus............we use blinds when welding all the dang time. It is an OSHA requirement...........in many cases. They build scaffolding huts for welding as a practice.............AGAIN........All the time.......Now that I know welding was going on it is not hard to figure that they used a blind on it for welding the deck.How long ago was that? Current construction practice is to use welding blinds or tarps to stop someone from being flashed.
I retired back in 2002, but if you want to see what the fire watch procedures currently are for the U.S. Navy, here's a link. Nothing in it about tarps.
https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Portals/103/Documents/SSRAC/NSI/FY15/009-35_FY15.pdf
So I call this was to cover the name up another TDS moment as usual.
What were you welding?
So.........lets have a party on a ship.....invite civilians to watch them weld..........and for extra fun stare at the sun for 2 hours so we can be like Ray Charles after...........
Dude..............."average people" as you call them don't spend their time hanging around the waterfront on a military base.
A Presidential visit isn't your standard email. The Secret Service goes in advance of wherever he goes.............I would imagine that these emails were Confidential.........I didn't say Classified...........big difference.The Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Furthermore...........Show me the gangway pictures from the pier to the USS McCain on the day of the event. They put up name tarps on the gangway to the pier. On that it names the ship, which would be seen by anyone on the pier or across the bay for that matter.
Riddle me this. The Washington Compost says the email is from the Navy.
1. How did the Washington Compost obtain that email? That would be a CONFIDENTIAL email for 7th FLEET procedures and guidelines.
2. Where is the VERIFICATION of the EMAIL?
3. If it is CONFIDENTIAL, then WHO RELEASED IT TO THE MEDIA??? If someone in the NAVY did this.......IF ......IF.....IF.........IF......it's True......then they are releasing information to the Media that can BE CHARGED via UNDER the USMJ for it.........Captain's Mast........Admirals Mast......and/or COURT MARTIAL.
The LEFT is fond of LEAKS......Real or IMAGINARY........The Washington Compost among others have been Lying their little Asses off for years now with UNVERIFIED stories..............they HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE.
This is another TYPICAL post of LEFT WINGERS .............Make ACCUSATIONS...........Don't PROVE IT..............then DEMAND those ACCUSED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE...................
In this country...........Proven til found guilty..............the LEFT has made a MOCKERY OF THIS STATEMENT.
Are you SURE that e-mail would have been considered classified? I worked in the personnel office for over 20 years in the Navy, and I can tell you that at least half of the message traffic we got in concerning basic operations were all marked unclassified.
7th Fleet information I already posted said that those attending didn't wear Hats with ships name on it. Was just standard Navy hats.An invitation to witness a Presidential speech would be classified?The Washington Compost, CNN, and MSNBC can make this easy. Show valid pictures of the Tarp on the day of event VERIFIABLE........According to the 7th Fleet it was NOT THERE on the day of the event.Sooo.........disprove the Navy response on the Paint Barge was removed prior to his arrival...........They were PAINTING the AFT END OF THE SHIP..........
The ship was not facing the same way because it was the Starboard side damaged in the collision in the last summer.........and it's not hard to imagine that such a collision would have caused stress cracks in welds found by X-ray at a later date requiring repair...............So..........they were painting the STERN ...........using a barge..........
AND THAT BARGE was removed....and the TARP........before the President arrived..............
PROVE TO ME THAT TARP WAS UP THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
The Navy can make its life easier
Just produce a record of the maintenance being performed on the aft end of the McCain
Show the email sent to the McCain inviting sailors to attend the speech
Show some sailors from the McCain who say....WTF? I was at the Trump speech
Furthermore...........Show me the gangway pictures from the pier to the USS McCain on the day of the event. They put up name tarps on the gangway to the pier. On that it names the ship, which would be seen by anyone on the pier or across the bay for that matter.
Riddle me this. The Washington Compost says the email is from the Navy.
1. How did the Washington Compost obtain that email? That would be a CONFIDENTIAL email for 7th FLEET procedures and guidelines.
2. Where is the VERIFICATION of the EMAIL?
3. If it is CONFIDENTIAL, then WHO RELEASED IT TO THE MEDIA??? If someone in the NAVY did this.......IF ......IF.....IF.........IF......it's True......then they are releasing information to the Media that can BE CHARGED via UNDER the USMJ for it.........Captain's Mast........Admirals Mast......and/or COURT MARTIAL.
The LEFT is fond of LEAKS......Real or IMAGINARY........The Washington Compost among others have been Lying their little Asses off for years now with UNVERIFIED stories..............they HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE.
This is another TYPICAL post of LEFT WINGERS .............Make ACCUSATIONS...........Don't PROVE IT..............then DEMAND those ACCUSED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE...................
In this country...........Proven til found guilty..............the LEFT has made a MOCKERY OF THIS STATEMENT.
Are you SURE that e-mail would have been considered classified? I worked in the personnel office for over 20 years in the Navy, and I can tell you that at least half of the message traffic we got in concerning basic operations were all marked unclassified.
It is routine message traffic. Why doesn’t the Navy just release it and show that the crew of the McCain was on the invite?
Exactly. All that message did was tell the commands on base that the president was going to be giving a speech. Unfortunately, the crew of the MCCAIN weren't put on the list. However, knowing bases like I do, there would have been several people asking their friends on the MCCAIN if they were going to go, which is probably how the crew heard about it.
And, when some heard about it, they decided to go, but were stopped from attending because they had on command ball caps with MCCAIN's name on it.
You're right. If there was no scandal about this, why is the Navy trying to come up with excuse after excuse? And yeah, the missive telling about Trump's visit would have been unclassified.