Using Ecstasy to Cure PTSD?

[Delta4Embassy]

Why do the shrinks always try to solve problems like this with damn drugs? Take another “magic pill” and get well.

It's what the doctors are turning our society into. No more personal responsibility. No more standing up to adversity.

It sickens me. There are much better ways that don't involve buzzing someone's mind with wonder stuff.

Read more @ Could a party drug help cure veterans' PTSD?

MDMA began as a psychiatric medication. Was used with great success in couples counselling originally. Then it got out into the recreational use community and its reputation plummeted as a result.

 

[Bonzi]

If there is a drug that will make me happy, outgoing and energetic - I'll take it!

 

[Delta4Embassy]

If there is a drug that will make me happy, outgoing and energetic - I'll take it!

Only for about 5 hours at a time, and as an amphetamine it's highly addictive. Why I never tried it though I did do rather a lot of acid.

 

[Bonzi]

5 hours out of the day is good.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

5 hours out of the day is good.

I just jerk off. MDMA can be therapeutic and beneficial, but as with any headmed too much of a good hting cna be bad. And in MDMA's case very very bad.

For good info (as opposed to the usual 'Reefer Madness' of government sources) DanceSafe is a neutral sorta recreational drug info resource I have a lot of faith in. Before experimenting with drugs they're a great resource. They even test samples of drugs telling you exactly what's in them.

Is MDMA Neurotoxic? | DanceSafe

 

[Bonzi]

Well this is off on a tangent but I still say .... psychology doesn't CURE anyone... UNLESS the patient wants to and is willing to do the work.

Would you rather have a PTSD patient that may go off the deep end NOT take drugs?

Not everyone has a strong will and constitution - it's hard for "fighters" to understand this.....

 

[longknife]

I know this may set some off but, a few years ago, the Marines at Camp Pendelton has some PTSD sufferers who were part American Indian. They allowed several "healers" from the Barona and La Jolla reservations to come on base to "help" them. They conducted ceremonies and prepared herbal remedies for them over a period of several months.

Can't find a link to it as the USMC had it deleted. Part of the reason was an outcry from "scientifically trained physicians" over the use of "magic".

From what I read, it worked for those who became involved.

It was, of course, a small, select group in a specialized effort and cannot be applied to a larger population.

I just found it interesting.

As an aside. I came upon the information in 2009. In 2007, I finished a novel about a soldier who was severely injured in Afghanistan to include PTSD. He goes AWOL and ends up being treated by a tribal elder in Southern Arizona.

Far that reason, this subject fascinates me.

 

[Syriusly]

Of course they would(n't), as admitting it is not a cool thing. BTY, what kind of doctors are your family members, the ones that didn't go to medical school? Doctors is a broad term and includes folks who've done post graduate work, maybe working toward a PhD like in education, for example.

Unlike yourself- my family members went to college, and then to medical school and are medical doctors.

 

[Syriusly]

I know this may set some off but, a few years ago, the Marines at Camp Pendelton has some PTSD sufferers who were part American Indian. They allowed several "healers" from the Barona and La Jolla reservations to come on base to "help" them. They conducted ceremonies and prepared herbal remedies for them over a period of several months.

Can't find a link to it as the USMC had it deleted. Part of the reason was an outcry from "scientifically trained physicians" over the use of "magic".

From what I read, it worked for those who became involved.

It was, of course, a small, select group in a specialized effort and cannot be applied to a larger population.

I just found it interesting.

As an aside. I came upon the information in 2009. In 2007, I finished a novel about a soldier who was severely injured in Afghanistan to include PTSD. He goes AWOL and ends up being treated by a tribal elder in Southern Arizona.

Far that reason, this subject fascinates me.

I have seen several alternative therapies tried for PTSD- meditation is one that has great promise.

I am for what works- and the only way to determine what does work- since relying upon anecdotes- like this story or yours is not good science- is to do the science- and that is what this article was about- doing the science to see if MDMA does work to relieve PTSD symptoms.

And that is a good thing- and should be applauded- as I would applaud any efforts to test the effects of using 'traditional healers' too, in a scientific manner.

 

[Spinster]

Of course they would(n't), as admitting it is not a cool thing. BTY, what kind of doctors are your family members, the ones that didn't go to medical school? Doctors is a broad term and includes folks who've done post graduate work, maybe working toward a PhD like in education, for example.

Unlike yourself- my family members went to college, and then to medical school and are medical doctors.

Un huh, whatever you say, Seriously. Lmao.

 

[Spinster]

I know this may set some off but, a few years ago, the Marines at Camp Pendelton has some PTSD sufferers who were part American Indian. They allowed several "healers" from the Barona and La Jolla reservations to come on base to "help" them. They conducted ceremonies and prepared herbal remedies for them over a period of several months.

Can't find a link to it as the USMC had it deleted. Part of the reason was an outcry from "scientifically trained physicians" over the use of "magic".

From what I read, it worked for those who became involved.

It was, of course, a small, select group in a specialized effort and cannot be applied to a larger population.

I just found it interesting.

As an aside. I came upon the information in 2009. In 2007, I finished a novel about a soldier who was severely injured in Afghanistan to include PTSD. He goes AWOL and ends up being treated by a tribal elder in Southern Arizona.

Far that reason, this subject fascinates me.

Long knife, have you gotten published yet, on any of your novels?

 

[Syriusly]

Of course they would(n't), as admitting it is not a cool thing. BTY, what kind of doctors are your family members, the ones that didn't go to medical school? Doctors is a broad term and includes folks who've done post graduate work, maybe working toward a PhD like in education, for example.

Unlike yourself- my family members went to college, and then to medical school and are medical doctors.

Un huh, whatever you say, Seriously. Lmao.

See- now you are talking sense.