US tried working with China to stop Russian Ukrainian invasion for Months

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yes, link is to a biased site, but it refers to a NY Times pieces that is behind a paywall.

<font color="red"><i>America is BACK: Brandon's Big Plan for Stopping Russia From Invading Was to BEG CHINA TO PRESSURE RUSSIA; <br>Instead of Helping Brandon, China Betrayed Him and Told Russia All About His Undignified Groveling</i></font>

Over three months, senior Biden administration officials held half a dozen urgent meetings with top Chinese officials in which the Americans presented intelligence showing Russia's troop buildup around Ukraine and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials.
Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. After one diplomatic exchange in December, U.S. officials got intelligence showing Beijing had shared the information with Moscow, telling the Russians that the United States was trying to sow discord -- and that China would not try to impede Russian plans and actions, the officials said.

The previously unreported talks between American and Chinese officials show how the Biden administration tried to use intelligence findings and diplomacy to persuade a superpower it views as a growing adversary to stop the invasion of Ukraine, and how that nation, led by President Xi Jinping, persistently sided with Russia even as the evidence of Moscow's plans for a military offensive grew over the winter.

This means the Biden administration knew this was coming for months, tried to get China to intercede, and failed.

What this also tells me is Europe is going to sit this one out probably, because their economies are tied to Russian Energy supplies, namely Russian Natural Gas.
 
yes, link is to a biased site, but it refers to a NY Times pieces that is behind a paywall.

<font color="red"><i>America is BACK: Brandon's Big Plan for Stopping Russia From Invading Was to BEG CHINA TO PRESSURE RUSSIA; <br>Instead of Helping Brandon, China Betrayed Him and Told Russia All About His Undignified Groveling</i></font>



This means the Biden administration knew this was coming for months, tried to get China to intercede, and failed.

What this also tells me is Europe is going to sit this one out probably, because their economies are tied to Russian Energy supplies, namely Russian Natural Gas.

And in the last few months alone China has inked major trade deals for Russias oil, coal and wheat so it appears they made the world aware of their decision.

No worries, in other news, Biden just nominated a minority female SCOTUS. Let's get some media coverage on that so that Establishment politicians don't have to answer questions about Ukraine.
 
I did a thread on this already.

Anyhew, it is my contention that without the support of China, Putin would never have attempted this.

Putin only needs China, not the rest of the world.

And the US begged China to help with North Korea as well. Trouble is, China stopped the US from taking North Korea during the Korean war, so they alone prop up such rogue nations as North Korea.

North Korea is a buffer state for their goals of world domination much like Russia is as well.
 
I did a thread on this already.

Anyhew, it is my contention that without the support of China, Putin would never have attempted this.

Putin only needs China, not the rest of the world.

And the US begged China to help with North Korea as well. Trouble is, China stopped the US from taking North Korea during the Korean war, so they alone prop up such rogue nations as North Korea.

North Korea is a buffer state for their goals of world domination much like Russia is as well.
Yeah.....and to make it even more ominous China and Russia are doing overland Trade directly....not using the dollar system....this had to have been a long range plan...so all the talk of the Ruble crashing means absolutely nothing. They expected it and they were ready for it. This is what you get from a politically correct intelligence department that wants more men wearing skirts than men who can actually do the job,.

JO
 
yes, link is to a biased site, but it refers to a NY Times pieces that is behind a paywall.

<font color="red"><i>America is BACK: Brandon's Big Plan for Stopping Russia From Invading Was to BEG CHINA TO PRESSURE RUSSIA; <br>Instead of Helping Brandon, China Betrayed Him and Told Russia All About His Undignified Groveling</i></font>



This means the Biden administration knew this was coming for months, tried to get China to intercede, and failed.

What this also tells me is Europe is going to sit this one out probably, because their economies are tied to Russian Energy supplies, namely Russian Natural Gas.
This means that Biden knew this was coming for months 1) Put his puppet masters (who we know he has taken bribes from in charge and 2) Did nothing to fortify ukraine to stop russia and 3) Did nothing to get our people out and to safety

Ergo, Biden's administration wanted the invasion and our people victimized.
 
This means that Biden knew this was coming for months 1) Put his puppet masters (who we know he has taken bribes from in charge and 2) Did nothing to fortify ukraine to stop russia and 3) Did nothing to get our people out and to safety

Ergo, Biden's administration wanted the invasion and our people victimized.
Yes
 
This means that Biden knew this was coming for months 1) Put his puppet masters (who we know he has taken bribes from in charge and 2) Did nothing to fortify ukraine to stop russia and 3) Did nothing to get our people out and to safety

Ergo, Biden's administration wanted the invasion and our people victimized.

Or they just thought it would be over in 2-3 days and the rest of the world wouldn't do anything but mount a token resistance.

The fact it is still going on now forced Europe to take a side, and surprisingly they have sided against Russia.
 
Or they just thought it would be over in 2-3 days and the rest of the world wouldn't do anything but mount a token resistance.

The fact it is still going on now forced Europe to take a side, and surprisingly they have sided against Russia.
Only in public.... Between the United States and Europe they are still spending 1.5 billion dollars a day in Russian hydrocarbon purchases.
 
Only in public.... Between the United States and Europe they are still spending 1.5 billion dollars a day in Russian hydrocarbon purchases.

They have no choice, thanks to their crappy energy policies the past decade or so.
 
That didn't age well.

What I didn't take into account was the ability of the Ukrainian military and militias to keep the conflict going this long. My statement was based on me thinking the Russian Military would be able to squash organized resistance in less than 3-5 days, and the existing Ukrainian government would be dead, in exile, or captured.

Also the Ukrainian President's Social media abilities were not taken into account by me.
 

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