US Supreme Court : Agrees with the President : MS13 gangster Kilmar Abrego Garcia must stay in El Salvador's SuperMax

[San Souci]

Again. No. They don’t get “trials,” so you might as well stop pretending that they do. They get administrative type hearings. And they don’t cost millions.

No.

Yes. Make it a Felony to employ an illegal. Make it a felony to shelter an illegal. Round them all up and kick their scurvy asses back across the Border. Let Mexico feed 'em

 

[BackAgain]

Yes. Make it a Felony to employ an illegal.

I’m ok with that. So far, so good.

Make it a felony to shelter an illegal.

With some exceptions for emergency concerns, that is at least worth discussing.

Round them all up and kick their scurvy asses back across the Border. Let Mexico feed 'em

So. Do we change the immigration laws and rules and regs? Or do we change the Constitution?

 

[Mac-7]

I’m ok with that. So far, so good.

With some exceptions for emergency concerns, that is at least worth discussing.

So. Do we change the immigration laws and rules and regs? Or do we change the Constitution?

Make it a felony to KNOWINGLY hire an illegal

And automatic expulsion of illegals who work using fake documentation

 

[Unkotare]

"We"? ...

America.

 

[Unkotare]

So you want to spend BILLIONs giving 12 Million filthy Illegals a trial? No Way. Of course ,the best way is starve them out. No shelter. Food. School. Medicaid. Jobs. Then they will self deport.

Why do people indulge their hysterical emotions and waste time with this ^^^ shit?

 

[Rigby5]

Application denied.
Buh Bye!

Wrong.
The application for asylum was accepted in 2011, and can't be rescinded now without a hearing where due cause it proven.
Legally he is still under US jurisdiction, and it was illegal to deport him.

 

[Rigby5]

The gangster kilmar abrego did get a hearing.
Years ago.
The judge confirmed that he was a gang member of MS-13.
The judge confirmed that he was to be deported.
He came into The USA illegally.
He was a human trafficker.
ms-13 is now designated a terrorist group.
President Trump's administration deported him and he is now in El Salvador ( his home country)
The Supreme Court just ruled literally 9 to 0 that some district judge cannot compel The President or Secretary of State to retrieve a citizen of El Salvador.
The President of El Salvador said it would be illegal to "smuggle" someone into The USA.
Again, no goof here
The Supreme Court confirmed 9-0 that the gangster is staying in prison in his home country

That is just lies.

In the hearing in 2011 he was found to NOT be a gang member or having committed any crime.
He was granted asylum status.
This is easily confirmed by PolitiFacts and FactCheck.

He was suspected of "human trafficking" due to 8 people being in the car that was stopped, but it just turned out to be case of one car in a 2 car convoy, breaking down.
Nothing remotely illegal.

Trump did NOT "deport" him, as that would require a deportation hearing, which never happened.

The SCOTUS ruled that Trump does have to retrieve Kilmar, since sending him to El Salvador was criminal.
{...
The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal.
...}
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf

 

[Rigby5]

Who says they haven't been. CNN ?

The SCOTUS says Kilmar was denied due process and that deporting him violated the law.

{...
The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal.
...}

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf

If there has been a hearing when he was recently taken into custody, then he would not have been deported.

 

[Rigby5]

Did they do any "Due Process" GETTING here? Such as applying for a Green Card before entering?

Asylum seekers always have to apply AFTER they get here, since trying to apply from their original country would be dangerous.
And this is over political asylum, not over a green card employment opportunity.

 

[toobfreak]

Make it a felony to KNOWINGLY hire an illegal

If when you hire someone you require proof of citizenship, birth certificate, government ID, etc., then they would KNOW.

 

[Rigby5]

You have proven nothing.
Your meandering posts become more irate than the last.
This just proves my point that you approach these issues in a purely emotional manner.
I keep explaining simple concepts to you and you continue to become more and more unhinged.
The American People voted for President Trump's border policies. FACT!!!
The American People voted to send all the criminal illegal aliens that cackles and tater head let into the country back.
FACT!!!

Wrong.
First of all, Kilmar was allowed to apply for asylum in 2011, so it was not under "cackles and tater head".
Second is that voters and the president they elect, do NOT get to create or change law in any way.
Third is that if Kilmar were to be deported, then a deportation hearing would have been required. Since there was no deportation hearing, he was not deported, but kidnapped instead.

 

[BackAgain]

Did they do any "Due Process" GETTING here? Such as applying for a Green Card before entering?

In some cases, yes. In many cases, no.
But that has no bearing on whether they get a modicum of due process before getting deported.

 

[protectionist]

He was supposed to have been deported twice before

So the leftist media are lying when they say Garcia was deported mistakenly.

 

[protectionist]

The administration admits that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported by mistake.
That is proof that there was no "due process" and that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was not given a hearing.
If all the deportees had been given a hearing, then Kilmar Abrego Garcia would have been discovered to have successfully applied for asylum.

Link

 

[Rigby5]

If when you hire someone you require proof of citizenship, birth certificate, government ID, etc., then they would KNOW.

If you read the treaties under which the US purchased CA, AZ, NV, UT, CO, and TX, they all require unhindered access to Mexican agricultural workers.
That is because the majority of the land were Spanish land grants, and the Mexicans who owned those land grants were not required to become US citizens.

 

[Rigby5]

Link

I already did link proof.
{...
The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal.
...}
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf

 

[Rigby5]

So the leftist media are lying when they say Garcia was deported mistakenly.

Not, the Internet pundits are the ones lying when they claim that Kilmar had not been granted asylum.

And that should be obvious, since if Kilmar could be legally deported, then he would have had a deportation hearing.
Which obviously never happened.

 

[justoffal]

Personally I think the SC has to ask for him to be brought back to US first...

This is about the power of the Judiciary and if the SC lets the Executive ignore Judge's orders then the system is basically an unlimited Monarchy. And you reap what you sow...

Every American should be wanting everyone to get due process. It is how everyone is protected...

Today they say they can do it to someone protected by the court... Where do you think this would end and don't think your guy will always be in charge..

He has committed crimes in El Salvador. El Salvador doesn't give a shit what the United States supreme Court has to say about it.

 

[Rigby5]

The Constitution, to one degree or another, covers everyone in the US, citizen or otherwise.

In fact, the US constitution is actually a statement about the rights of the individual in all of the entire human race.

 

[Rigby5]

He has committed crimes in El Salvador. El Salvador doesn't give a shit what the United States supreme Court has to say about it.

WRONG!
If he had committed crimes in El Salvador, then it would have been detected in 2011 when he applied for asylum in the US, and he would have been denied.
Instead he was approved and granted US asylum.
So clearly anyone claiming he has a criminal record is lying.
All sources, like PolitiFacts and FactCheck, all say he has not criminal record at all.