US Senate passes government funding bill, averts shutdown

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How is it out of character? That Debt Limit is the club that democrats will use to beat Trump like a baby seal.
Trump can't pay for all the tax cuts he promised, so he will need to borrow to cover it.
I'm hoping that the deficit hawk Republicans and the democrats will defeat the tax cut extension.
Otherwise the Debt will hit $40T and interest on that debt will hit $1.5T, a budget buster.

So now that inflation is not running amuck, you want to raise taxes and kill economic growth overall? Really intelligent!

 

[j-mac]

What we really need is a Balanced Budget amendment....

 

[Seymour Flops]

the White House said that Biden would sign the bill Saturday and avoid forcing U.S. troops, Border Patrol agents, air traffic controllers and millions of other federal workers to work without pay.

It's absurd that NBC "News" is allowed to just keep lying like that when they are given access to the public airways for free in exchange for being licensed to operate in the public interest.

No one would have been "forced" to "work without pay."

 

[kyzr]

So now that inflation is not running amuck, you want to raise taxes and kill economic growth overall? Really intelligent!

You are not doing the MATH. Interest on the Debt is consuming the Budget
$36T DEBT and climbing, especially with Trump's tax cuts
$1.1T interest on the DEBT and climbing
$2T Budget Deficit.

Here is the interest on the Debt chart. Tax cuts are NOT the answer, they never balanced a budget. They add to the DEBT

 

[lafayette]

Here is a Christmas present for Trump and Musk:

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are not doing the MATH. Interest on the Debt is consuming the Budget
$36T DEBT and climbing, especially with Trump's tax cuts
$1.1T interest on the DEBT and climbing
$2T Budget Deficit.

Here is the interest on the Debt chart. Tax cuts are NOT the answer, they never balanced a budget. They add to the DEBT

View attachment 1056285

Fix that first by cutting spending.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Well..once more--the beat goes on:

Senate passes bill to avoid a government shutdown, ending funding fight at the 11th hour

President Joe Biden is expected to sign the bill to fund the government through March 14. It does not address the debt ceiling, a key demand from President-elect Donald Trump.

www.nbcnews.com

The Senate gave final passage to a bill early Saturday morning to keep the government open for three more months, sending it to President Joe Biden's desk to end the threat of a government shutdown during the holidays.

The vote was 85-11.

The Republican-controlled House passed the bill hours earlier. Although the final vote technically went past the midnight deadline to avert a shutdown, the White House said that Biden would sign the bill Saturday and avoid forcing U.S. troops, Border Patrol agents, air traffic controllers and millions of other federal workers to work without pay.

"Agencies will not shut down and may continue normal operations," Emilie Simons, White House Senior Deputy Press Secretary, posted on X.

The House vote was 366-34, with all opposition coming from Republicans and one member voting present. It capped a tumultuous week that foreshadowed how the new Congress in January might deal with a mercurial Donald Trump back in the White House.

The package funds the government at current levels through March 14, and includes $100 billion in disaster aid and a one-year farm bill — while stripping out a debt limit extension demanded by President-elect Trump earlier in the week.

On Wednesday, Trump had threatened to primary “Any Republican” who voted for a funding bill without a debt limit extension; on Friday, 170 House Republicans did just that.

“We are really grateful that tonight, in bipartisan fashion, with overwhelming majority of votes, we passed the American Relief Act of 2025. This is a very important piece of legislation,” House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters after the vote. “It funds the government, of course, until March of 2025. That was a big priority for us.”

Hey, whatta ya know, they kicked the can down the road...........again.

Not like we should ever expect them to actually govern properly and fix the economy...nooooooo, can't have that...

 

[ThisIsMe]

Fix that first by cutting spending.

That's always my take, it's budgeting 101, if you are having financial trouble, the thing you can have the most direct and immediate effect on is cutting expenses.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump demanding a debt limit extension? That's out of character.

No, you are seeing the real Trump not the campaign verson

 

[Arlette]

After days of ridiculous incompetence and idiocy by Republicans, after unwarranted, ham-handed interference by a fascist billionaire and unfit ‘president’ elect both of whom devoid of official authority.

America has two daddies now. Kinda woke, isn't it?

 

[Moonglow]

That's always my take, it's budgeting 101, if you are having financial trouble, the thing you can have the most direct and immediate effect on is cutting expenses.

Not when you can borrow the dough easily from the wealthy. Anyone who cuts the budget knows it will cut their throat if not done in a slow process of reductions.

 

[Moonglow]

America has two daddies now. Kinda woke, isn't it?

It's rather pathetic to see the working class idolize the wealthy.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Not when you can borrow the dough easily from the wealthy. Anyone who cuts the budget knows it will cut their throat if not done in a slow process of reductions.

By borrow you mean, steal through a wealth tax? Hey, if that's the hill you all want to die on, have at it. I encourage you to implement a wealth tax next time you all get in power. I have a sneaking suspicion you won't, though.

 

[Contumacious]

Well..once more--the beat goes on:

Senate passes bill to avoid a government shutdown, ending funding fight at the 11th hour

President Joe Biden is expected to sign the bill to fund the government through March 14. It does not address the debt ceiling, a key demand from President-elect Donald Trump.

www.nbcnews.com

The Senate gave final passage to a bill early Saturday morning to keep the government open for three more months, sending it to President Joe Biden's desk to end the threat of a government shutdown during the holidays.

The vote was 85-11.

The Republican-controlled House passed the bill hours earlier. Although the final vote technically went past the midnight deadline to avert a shutdown, the White House said that Biden would sign the bill Saturday and avoid forcing U.S. troops, Border Patrol agents, air traffic controllers and millions of other federal workers to work without pay.

"Agencies will not shut down and may continue normal operations," Emilie Simons, White House Senior Deputy Press Secretary, posted on X.

The House vote was 366-34, with all opposition coming from Republicans and one member voting present. It capped a tumultuous week that foreshadowed how the new Congress in January might deal with a mercurial Donald Trump back in the White House.

The package funds the government at current levels through March 14, and includes $100 billion in disaster aid and a one-year farm bill — while stripping out a debt limit extension demanded by President-elect Trump earlier in the week.

On Wednesday, Trump had threatened to primary “Any Republican” who voted for a funding bill without a debt limit extension; on Friday, 170 House Republicans did just that.

“We are really grateful that tonight, in bipartisan fashion, with overwhelming majority of votes, we passed the American Relief Act of 2025. This is a very important piece of legislation,” House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters after the vote. “It funds the government, of course, until March of 2025. That was a big priority for us.”

The US has become a gargantuan welfare/warfare police state........ it should have been allowed to shutdown.

 

[Mac-7]

How is it out of character? That Debt Limit is the club that democrats will use to beat Trump like a baby seal.
Trump can't pay for all the tax cuts he promised, so he will need to borrow to cover it.
I'm hoping that the deficit hawk Republicans and the democrats will defeat the tax cut extension.
Otherwise the Debt will hit $40T and interest on that debt will hit $1.5T, a budget buster.

The tax cuts will pay for themselves by growing the economy

Its excessive spending that we have to guard against

 

[rightwinger]

What we really need is a Balanced Budget amendment....

Does your amendment include mandatory tax increases?

How about no tax cuts until the budget is balanced?

 

[kyzr]

Fix that first by cutting spending.

What do you suggest we cut?

The only item that covers $2T is moving Welfare ($1.8T) to the states in phases

Discretionary spending only has Defense and Non-defense. There is not much to cut, which is why I say we need more revenue.
There are $billions to cut, but not #Trillions.

Putting lazy bastards to work gets my vote. Clinton was supposed to put a 2-year limit on Welfare, WTF happened?

Op-Ed, Wall Street Journal: Welfare Is What’s Eating the Budget | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

"Means-tested social-welfare spending totaled $1.6 trillion in 2023. Welfare spending now absorbs an astonishing 72.6% of unobligated general revenue (total revenue net of Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes and premiums and mandatory interest on the public debt) and is larger than the claims against unobligated general revenue by Social Security (4.1%), Medicare (23.5%) and defense (37.2%) combined."

 

[Moonglow]

By borrow you mean, steal through a wealth tax? Hey, if that's the hill you all want to die on, have at it. I encourage you to implement a wealth tax next time you all get in power. I have a sneaking suspicion you won't, though.

I do believe I used the word borrowing., there is already a wealth tax, duh.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump demanding a debt limit extension? That's out of character.

It was really Elonia.

 

[TimFitz]

It was a small positive as it did NOT raise the debt ceiling. They showed that they could do it. I recall argument after argument in the past that this addressed money already spent so the ceiling had to be raised.

Well it seems it didn't.

Now to see if they can actually bring themselves to make cuts and raise additional funds to actually address the debt.

I'm thinking neither party actually wants to do that. We will see.

Since Trump’s only goal in this stunt was to try and bully Congress into removing any debt ceiling, it’s pretty obvious that Trump doesn’t care about cuts, and has no intention of raising revenue at all.