The Sage of Main Street
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What was the Kuwaiti Army's fighting song?
"Onward, Christian Soldiers!"
US, Russia to meet in Saudi Arabia over Ukraine war
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What was the Kuwaiti Army's fighting song?
"Onward, Christian Soldiers!"
The Sage of Main Street
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That is exactly why we are going to kill all Banderlogs (not "all Ukrainians"). Because they do kill Russians.
NATO expansion was (and still is) the basic cause. As was already said in 2007 - Russia won't allow Ukraine and Georgia in NATO whatever is the price (including direct nuclear war if necessary).
Russia has no right to run the foreign policy of other countries, neither of which was attacking them. Putin and Trump can say whatever they like, it’s what Ukrainians say that counts.
Why do you admire dictators?
Giving in to a dictator led to WW2. Ukraine rejects the Czechoslovakia treatment. The EU remembers the results of Munich. Putin is lucky to have such an historically ignorant friend in Trump.
zaangalewa
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Untrue. "Die deutschen Staaten von Amerika" = "the German states of America" is the same as to say "the united States of America". The problem is that the nationalists of the world today - which the Brits, the French and the USA - and also the Russians - produced in masses - have not any other view to the world any longer than their own nationalisms.
If you should not know: Alaska and the complete east coast of North America is for every Stalinistic thinking Russian territory of the Russians which is occupied from Canada and the USA. This is for us a problem because you are the German States of America.
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zaangalewa
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No one alone is so absolutelly stupid as you play to be. I remember for example when many people thought about that Russia also should become a member of the defence alliance NATO and to transfer the NATO into a kind of world police. This was before you became perverted new Stalinists. To remember you: Stalin murdered in teh end about 40 million Russians (=people of many nations including real Russians). More than all others together murdered in the whole history of all mankind.
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What was allegedly accomplished?
End in Sight for Ukraine War After Riyadh Meeting
"Speaking to reporters after meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Tuesday, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio laid out what was accomplished in Riyadh.
"He said four principles had been agreed to: restoring ties by reopening diplomatic missions; the U.S. would appoint a high-level team to achieve 'the end of the conflict in Ukraine' that is 'enduring' and acceptable to all parties; the countries would work together towards economic cooperation; and the participants at the Tuesday meeting to remain engaged.
"U.S. National Security Advisor Michael Waltz told reporters after the four and a half hour meeting that the U.S. was seeking a permanent end to the war.
"'The practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory and a discussion of security guarantees,' Waltz said, adding that President Donald Trump wants the killing to end and is 'determined to act very quickly.'"
Less than one week after the first call between US and Russian Executives since 2021, the two sides were meeting in Riyadh.
At this point Trump has shifted the question from if the war in Ukraine will end to when it will finally expire.
Blind squirrel or broken clock?
Of course we have. After US illegal and unprovoked acts of aggression in Serbia and Iraq, there is only one law. "Might is right". And yes, after the end of US "financial support ", during the next elections, we are going to ask Ukrainians, what do they actually prefer - to live in Russia (or in a Russia-friendly state), or to die in the vain attempt to achieve NATO membership. There will be no neither NATO in Ukraine, nor Ukraine in NATO, because Ukrainians (specifically - Banderovci) need NATO membership to feel free to discriminate, abuse and kill Russian people, and NATO needs Ukraine to attack (or to have possibility to attack) Russian Federation.
A policeman who violate the law and follow only his perverted desires is not a policeman. He is a gangster.
Given the nature of our dear European neighbours (and Hitler wasn't the worst European leader, invaded Russia) all those deaths (while your numbers are incorrect) were justificated by preventing the total elimination of the Russian people. Forty million killed is pretty acceptable price for the victory in a war of extinction.
Actually, it was "proto-EU" who divided Czechoslovakia without Russian permission (and directly against Russian will) And it was lack of European system of equal safety (deliberately destroyed by the UK) which leads to WW2. And, talking about Ukraine, it was Russia, who reunited Ukrainian lands in 1939 by liberation of western Ukraine previously occupied by Poland.
And no, it's not "Ukraine rejected". It's expired dictator Zelenskiy who have no any right to represent Ukrainian people, rejected it. Let's ask Ukrainian people. Open borders, de-fund them, and see - how many citizens of Ukraine eager to die for him.
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It was bowing down to a dictator, which is what Trump is doing now with his Chamberlain act!
First of all, it were USA and UK who raised this dictator. Second - it wasn't just "weakness". It took special efforts from the HMG to destroy already existed alliance between Great Britain, France, Czechoslovakia and USSR.
Why are we discussing this? Nothing that happened then excuses Putin and Trump.
I thought people discuss the past to learn some lessons for future. If we want to avoid WW3 - it might be useful to learn something about why and how the WW1 and WW2 were started (and why other wars didn't escalate to WW3)?. How small conflicts escalate to larger wars and when and why deterrence do work or doesn't work, and how people from different sides see the situation? It's important.
Neither Trump nor Putin needs any "excuses". Both of them want to defend their people from extinction.
The past tells us that Putin and Trump are trying to do to Ukraine what Hitler and Chamberlain did to Czechoslovakia in 1938. I’m not on the side of Hitler or his political descendant, Putin.
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