US Military's Knee on the Throat of the World

[Correll]

Yet, you when confronted with the historical reality of Nixon desegregating Southern Schools, instead of celebrating that victory, you dodged that, and distracted by attacking Trump.

Nixon didn't desegregate southern schools.

Ike did.

Eisenhower was key desegregation figure

Funny. So, that bit where you made a point about Johnson doing shit and how Republicans didn't do shit,


that was you just talking shit?


Thanks. I knew that.


Ike passed laws. And enforced them somewhat. Nixon finished the job. We could look at the details if you want, to see which one did more.


I don't care. And neither do you. You just want to avoid giving credit for advancing Civil Rights, if it is to the wrong side.


You are a rabid partisan ideologue. To the point that you don't even care about results.


The ideology is an end in of itself.


This is very dangerous. This is how you get genocides and death camps.

 

[Correll]

Dude, you are fucking worthless.

An old commie leftover.

You're the latest Lost Cause.
Maybe you should drink some bleach?

You are lying. That you have to lie, shows that you know you are the bad guy.

 

[Mac-7]

After Americans installed a military dictator in southern Korea,

Newsflash: the world is a very harsh place

south korea began as a dictatorship just like the north

But the south became a modern democratic country and advanced beyond anyones wildest dreams

while the north remains a starving hell hole and a dictatorship

 

[Mac-7]

More likely a united peninsula would be richer today than either state today since it would not have been bombed into pebbles and dust by the heroic US Air Force between 1950 and 1953

That tired old excuse does not hold water

the north has had 70 years to recover and has that natural resources that the south lacks

yet the south is industrialized while the north is stagnent

face it

compared to capitalism communism is a dismal failure

 

[georgephillip]

If only they had unified, they would all have snappy uniforms, instead of food.

And nukes!

instead of colonization.

 

[georgephillip]

The Nazi’s were capitalists in the same bastardized way china is

individuals could own their factories but under close supervision of the state

Both authoritarian states practiced state capitalism, but Hitler killed communists and gave a medal to Henry Ford. US capitalists created 21st century China much like 20th century western capitalists funded Hitler as a buffer against Russia. How did that work out?

 

[fncceo]

If only they had unified, they would all have snappy uniforms, instead of food.

And nukes!

instead of colonization.

Israel, indigenous home of The Jews, has never admitted to having nuclear weapons.

 

[Mac-7]

US capitalists created 21st century China

I agree with that

but communist chinese controlled state media does not

the average chinese has been brainwashed into thinking china did it all by themselves

 

[georgephillip]

There are numerous references that do not support your pro communist narrative

but you will reject them I’m sure

anyway you can start here

Your link contains support for my position on US meddling in Korea:

"When the Japanese defeat was assured, the Koreans immediately went to work to create an independent Korean government.

"First they formed the Committee for the Preparation of Korean Independence (CPKI). The committee quickly spread throughout Korea, with 145 branches by the end of August 1945.

"These branches were called People's Committees, and in many places they served effectively as the local government. On September 6, 1945, the CPKI elected fifty-five leaders to head the Korean People's Republic.

"This new Korean government favored reforms that would redistribute land and wealth, help workers, and uphold human rights for all Korean people."

"The United States arrives in the south

"Major General John Reed Hodge was appointed commanding general of the U.S. armed forces in Korea as soon as the war ended.

"The U.S. State Department was not able to make his mission in Korea very clear to him because the United States until that time had little understanding of Korea.

"While MacArthur instructed Hodge to treat the Koreans as a liberated people, Hodge also received orders from the U.S. secretary of state to 'create a government in harmony with U.S. policies.'

"Hodge, a very competent leader in battle but a poor diplomat (foreign relations negotiator), instructed his officers to treat Korea as an 'enemy of the state,' as quoted in Bruce Cumings's history, Korea's Place in the Sun: A Modern History."

 

[georgephillip]

Democrats kneel on the throat of America

No more than Republicans.

 

[Mac-7]

These branches were called People's Committees, and in many places they served effectively as the local government. On September 6, 1945, the CPKI elected fifty-five leaders to head the Korean People's Republic.

They were communists and we would be crazy to allow the Soviet Union to spread communism to all of korea

 

[georgephillip]

Free elections are impossible in a soviet style dictatorship

Unification was possible only on communist terms and that was unacceptable

Unacceptable to whom, US imperialists?
There was no "soviet style dictatorship" in Korea until the US military refused to allow free elections in 1945.
Communists would have won those election because Korean communists fought against the Japanese occupation while Korean capitalists collaborated the occupation.

 

[Mac-7]

Unacceptable to whom, US imperialists?

If you choose to libel and hate your own country in that way I cant stop you

But America was a huge God-given blessing to South Korea

 

[Mac-7]

Communists would have won those election because Korean communists fought against the Japanese occupation while Korean capitalists collaborated the occupation.

They would have won because the communists would murder anyone who voted against them

the UN offered to hold internationally supervised elections and it was the soviets who refused

 

[georgephillip]

China has murdered more of its own people than any claims you can make against America

and they still are killing their own citizens

America has murdered millions of its indigenous population, and continues to maim, murder, and displace millions more around the world today

DEATH TOLL FROM MODERN AMERICAN WARS

"America has been in 19 wars since World War II, but we will list the death toll from three of the bloodiest conflicts:

"The Korean War, The Vietnam War and wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. The total death toll of people killed by American troops in all these wars put together is over 12 million.

"Each of these three conflicts have something in common: they were wars fought in the name of making the world 'safe for democracy.'"

 

[fncceo]

China has murdered more of its own people than any claims you can make against America

and they still are killing their own citizens

America has murdered millions of its indigenous population, and continues to maim, murder, and displace millions more around the world today

DEATH TOLL FROM MODERN AMERICAN WARS

"America has been in 19 wars since World War II, but we will list the death toll from three of the bloodiest conflicts:

"The Korean War, The Vietnam War and wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. The total death toll of people killed by American troops in all these wars put together is over 12 million.

"Each of these three conflicts have something in common: they were wars fought in the name of making the world 'safe for democracy.'"

And?

 

[georgephillip]

Sez who?

who are these faceless and nameless researchers and how do they know?

Do you have any reason to doubt these numbers?

US to stop revealing drone deaths

"There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a UK-based think tank."

 

[georgephillip]

NATO is an alliance of collective defense that was created to respond to aggressive actions of the government in Moscow which was then the government of the Soviet Union. That government still exist today in Moscow and harbors aggressive territorial ambitions as proven by their invasion of Ukraine and the annexation of the Ukrainian province of Crimea.

US meddling in Ukrainian politics provoked the annexation of Crimea; had NATO been disbanded when the USSR failed, US arms sales would have taken a big hit, and Russia would have no reason to defend its near-abroad.

 

[Mac-7]

America has murdered millions of its indigenous population

America treated the Indians badly

But no less so than how humans were being treated all over the planet at that time

you want to judge the 19th Century by 21st Century standards

and that only works in lib la la land

 

[toobfreak]

Which country poses the greatest threat to global peace?

Oooo, Lemme guess! The United States! Right? Now give me a big wet one for guessing right.