US Might free Jonathan Pollard

[Phoenall]

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You and George would hit it right off. He's another defeatist slacker.

You know, before you go on and on about 'defeatists", how about telling me what 'victory" looks like?

Because, frankly, I don't see it.

Do we conquer all their countries, kill all their leaders and convert them all to Christianity like Ann Coulter once suggested.

Becuase as batshit crazy as it sounds, it frankly sounds a lot more cogent than anything AIPAC and PNAC have suggested.

We all talk like "Democracy" and "Freedom" would solve our problems there, but the reality is, if they took a vote of the Middle East, "Kill the Zionists" would win in every country, hands down, every time.

I never lost a war and would do it again. The reason we haven't "won" since WWII is the Generals have never been able to conduct a war. Unlike Pershing and Eisenhower.

The problem with war today is that it has become a media circus, and every little infraction is blown up out of proportion. The muslims have the right idea encase the media in glass houses were they can see the war from a distance and drip feed them the enemies atrocities. Use some of your own to make it look worse than it really is and you get all the bleeding hearts on your side. We in the west are scared by press badges and cameras when we should be expelling those journo's that write against us.

 

[Phoenall]

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Now how do we know you got out on your own after 11 years. I would imagine most men after 11 years were told to leave because of something they did wrong. Meanwhile, Joe, while you are busy putting down groups that you feel are wronging everyone, have you ever thought that the Muslims might want to take over here. Are you aware of how they are flooding into Europe and pushing their way around? Maybe you are looking forward to becoming a dhimmi for all we know. No one in America really cares who emigrates, whatever their religious beliefs, if they at least try to assimilate, but when a group tries to take over, I don't think Americans are going to be too happy. So while you are blabbering about the Middle East and the "Zionists" whom you think run every aspect of American lives (those hate sites do a fine job of making their readers believe just that) , think about what is happening in Europe and what is happening here.

i find it amusing that you carry on and on about "Hate Sites" and then repeat some of the most boring anti-Muslim hate I've seen on these boards.

Muslims are less than 5% of the population of Europe. They are hardly "pushing" anyone around.

So, no, I don't think the muslims are going to take over here or Europe or anywhere outside of the Middle East.

Nor to I think letting the Zionists continue to provoke them is a good idea.

Stop provoking them, we won't have a problem. Period.

Incidently, the Army wanted me to stay so badly they dangled an E-7 billet in front of me to get me to re-enlist one more time. I was happy to get out after the Gulf War because, frankly, I didn't feel like dying for an Oil Company's profits. That's not what I signed up for.

Forget Europe and start thinking nations, as Europe has nations without any muslims . Look at the organised rape gangs in many Western European countries. The ISLAMONAZI terrorism that is an everyday thing. You being in the USA are insulated from daily attack by muslim extremists and think that they are rare acts. The extremist attacks on the WTC should have made every American sit up and take notice. It is so bad that the British Government has issued a warning in regards to Islamic terrorism

 

[JoeB131]

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Oh, Joe, you are so naive. Check out how the Muslim population has soared just in Spain. And as one Paki Brit poster had said that the Muslims will soon take over England by virtue of them having lots of babies. Like I said, you are going to make a fine dhimmi.

Um, yeah, and youa re kind of sounding like a fine bigot.

We can start with Spain. According to Wiki...

Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to an April 2012 study by the Spanish Center of Sociological Research about 71% of Spaniards self-identify as Catholics, 2.7% other faith, and about 24% identify with no religion (9.4% of the total are atheists).

Yup, less than 2.7% covers ALL non-Christian Faiths. That sounds like they are being overrun!

Now for the United Kingdom.

United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the 2001 census 71.6% of all respondents indicated that they were Christians, with the next largest faiths (by number of adherents) being Islam (2.8%), Hinduism (1.0%), Sikhism (0.6%), Judaism (0.5%), Buddhism (0.3%) and all other religions (0.3%).[

Wow. 2.8% Really? Man, they need to get to that screwing, they have a big gap to fill in.

On the Internet you can tell us anything you want to, Joe. I can tell you I was a law professor at Harvard if I felt like it. We don't know whether or not you are telling the truth about why you got out of the service. Your excuse about the officers sounded flimsy to me. You were able to put up with them 9 years; and if it was so bad, you could have gotten out earlier.

Do you have poor reading comprehension skills? I pretty clearly stated that the reason I got out was after the Gulf War, after I watched the Zionists LIE us into a war against a helpless third world country that wasn't really our enemy, I just didn't feel like dying for the oil companies. And given how man folks I've seen who got their lives screwed up for no good reason in Gulf War I and Gulf War II, it was probably a good call.

As for the hate sites, why not do a little research about them. There have been studies done on these sites. Those who have read these hate sites and use the stuff found on them all sound like they are reading from the same playbook.

Why would I want to waste my time doing rearch on "Hate sites" when just reading the news (which they largely control), you find out what a bunch of Jerks the Zionists are.

 

[JoeB131]

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The problem with war today is that it has become a media circus, and every little infraction is blown up out of proportion. The muslims have the right idea encase the media in glass houses were they can see the war from a distance and drip feed them the enemies atrocities. Use some of your own to make it look worse than it really is and you get all the bleeding hearts on your side. We in the west are scared by press badges and cameras when we should be expelling those journo's that write against us.

No, dumbass.

The problem with war today is that we let special interests whip us up into a frenzy about going to war, and then when we find out it's usually under some kind of false pretense, people turn against it.

The Iraq War is a great example.

People did not turn agianst it because the Media "blew" Abu Grahib "out of proportion". That was actually a pretty terrible thing, and we didn't even see the worst pictures.

People turned against Iraq because it soon became apparent Bush and his PNAC/AIPAC/NeoCon buddies lied about the reasons we went in there.

There were no WMD's.

There was no working relationship between Bin Laden and Saddam.

Invading Iraq did not cause a wave of Democracy to sweep across the MIddle East.

That's why people turned against that.

Of course, the fact it dragged on for 10 years with little progress being made didn't help, either. Even in WWII, people were pretty tired of the thing by 1945.

 

[JoeB131]

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Forget Europe and start thinking nations, as Europe has nations without any muslims . Look at the organised rape gangs in many Western European countries. The ISLAMONAZI terrorism that is an everyday thing. You being in the USA are insulated from daily attack by muslim extremists and think that they are rare acts. The extremist attacks on the WTC should have made every American sit up and take notice. It is so bad that the British Government has issued a warning in regards to Islamic terrorism

Actually, the western nations have the lower end, as stated above. the 5% figure includes nations in the Balkans (Bosnia, ALbania, Bulgaria) with larger Islamic populations left over from when the Ottomans were at their height. IN the UK it's 5%, in Spain it's less than 2.3%.

(Incidently, in the 'Muslim % of population, it says 5%, in the entry under UK, it says 2.8%. Thanks, Wiki... for confusing the issue.)

Islam by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do think that the WTC attacks should have made us take notice. It should have gotten us wondering, "Why the hell are we needlessly antagonizing 1/6 of the world's population so a small religious group can play God Loves Me the Very Best."

 

[Phoenall]

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Oh, Joe, you are so naive. Check out how the Muslim population has soared just in Spain. And as one Paki Brit poster had said that the Muslims will soon take over England by virtue of them having lots of babies. Like I said, you are going to make a fine dhimmi.

Um, yeah, and youa re kind of sounding like a fine bigot.

We can start with Spain. According to Wiki...

Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to an April 2012 study by the Spanish Center of Sociological Research about 71% of Spaniards self-identify as Catholics, 2.7% other faith, and about 24% identify with no religion (9.4% of the total are atheists).

Yup, less than 2.7% covers ALL non-Christian Faiths. That sounds like they are being overrun!

Now for the United Kingdom.

United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the 2001 census 71.6% of all respondents indicated that they were Christians, with the next largest faiths (by number of adherents) being Islam (2.8%), Hinduism (1.0%), Sikhism (0.6%), Judaism (0.5%), Buddhism (0.3%) and all other religions (0.3%).[

Wow. 2.8% Really? Man, they need to get to that screwing, they have a big gap to fill in.

On the Internet you can tell us anything you want to, Joe. I can tell you I was a law professor at Harvard if I felt like it. We don't know whether or not you are telling the truth about why you got out of the service. Your excuse about the officers sounded flimsy to me. You were able to put up with them 9 years; and if it was so bad, you could have gotten out earlier.

Do you have poor reading comprehension skills? I pretty clearly stated that the reason I got out was after the Gulf War, after I watched the Zionists LIE us into a war against a helpless third world country that wasn't really our enemy, I just didn't feel like dying for the oil companies. And given how man folks I've seen who got their lives screwed up for no good reason in Gulf War I and Gulf War II, it was probably a good call.

As for the hate sites, why not do a little research about them. There have been studies done on these sites. Those who have read these hate sites and use the stuff found on them all sound like they are reading from the same playbook.

Why would I want to waste my time doing rearch on "Hate sites" when just reading the news (which they largely control), you find out what a bunch of Jerks the Zionists are.

The 2001 census did not include a section for religion so is viewed as flawed. The 2011 census puts a clearer picture on it with at least double the numbers and is still off by 500,000 to take in illegals. So the figure for the UK overall is closer to 5%. But now look at areas and you see London is 55%, Bradford 60% etc , areas were the muslims are controlling everything and are ethnically cleansing the whites from these areas. Attacking Christians and defacing their churches, disrupting services and beating up disabled elderly war veterans. Unless you witness it first hand you can never understand just what it is like. Just recently an Islamic extremist group has been shown to have plans to take control of British schools and have them changed to sharia compliant ones. Segregating the children and forcing them to learn islam and the Koran, tearing up the National Curriculum and banning all English food. Then we had the child sex gangs all over the country that raped 12 year old girls and forced them into prostitution, protected by a left wing government in return for votes. All muslim adult men acting in accordance with their religion. The team of doctors that turned extremist and tried to blow up an International airport full of families either on their way to their holiday destination or just returning. Now if you cant trust a doctor then who can you trust.

 

[Phoenall]

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The problem with war today is that it has become a media circus, and every little infraction is blown up out of proportion. The muslims have the right idea encase the media in glass houses were they can see the war from a distance and drip feed them the enemies atrocities. Use some of your own to make it look worse than it really is and you get all the bleeding hearts on your side. We in the west are scared by press badges and cameras when we should be expelling those journo's that write against us.

No, dumbass.

The problem with war today is that we let special interests whip us up into a frenzy about going to war, and then when we find out it's usually under some kind of false pretense, people turn against it.

The Iraq War is a great example.

People did not turn agianst it because the Media "blew" Abu Grahib "out of proportion". That was actually a pretty terrible thing, and we didn't even see the worst pictures.

People turned against Iraq because it soon became apparent Bush and his PNAC/AIPAC/NeoCon buddies lied about the reasons we went in there.

There were no WMD's.

There was no working relationship between Bin Laden and Saddam.

Invading Iraq did not cause a wave of Democracy to sweep across the MIddle East.

That's why people turned against that.

Of course, the fact it dragged on for 10 years with little progress being made didn't help, either. Even in WWII, people were pretty tired of the thing by 1945.

Take gaza as an example of the media circus and see how the reporters are stationed in 5 star hotels and waited on hand and foot. But not allowed to go outside to do their jobs. The hamas leadership employ Palestinian cameramen to take the pictures and narrate the stories for the reporters living of the fat of the land. Any that do decide to go outside face beatings and attacks, many threatened with murder if they don't leave immediately. All documented on the internet for anyone to see.
The fact remains that the muslims have such a tight grip on the media that they report what the muslims tell them

 

[Phoenall]

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Forget Europe and start thinking nations, as Europe has nations without any muslims . Look at the organised rape gangs in many Western European countries. The ISLAMONAZI terrorism that is an everyday thing. You being in the USA are insulated from daily attack by muslim extremists and think that they are rare acts. The extremist attacks on the WTC should have made every American sit up and take notice. It is so bad that the British Government has issued a warning in regards to Islamic terrorism

Actually, the western nations have the lower end, as stated above. the 5% figure includes nations in the Balkans (Bosnia, ALbania, Bulgaria) with larger Islamic populations left over from when the Ottomans were at their height. IN the UK it's 5%, in Spain it's less than 2.3%.

(Incidently, in the 'Muslim % of population, it says 5%, in the entry under UK, it says 2.8%. Thanks, Wiki... for confusing the issue.)

Islam by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do think that the WTC attacks should have made us take notice. It should have gotten us wondering, "Why the hell are we needlessly antagonizing 1/6 of the world's population so a small religious group can play God Loves Me the Very Best."

It is because the source is different every time you use it. Ten years ago the muslim population in the UK was "officially" 1.2 million and had not altered in 14 years, even thought 1 million new arrivals had taken place. Then in 2006 the truth emerged that the real figure was closer to 3.5 million and rising fast. So apply the higher percentage figure as the real one.

"WE" are not antagonising 15% of the worlds population we are running away from 20% + of the worlds most psychopathic killers. The same psychopathic killers that have it as one of their religious commands to "KILL ALL THE JEWS" then enslave everyone else.

 

[JoeB131]

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It is because the source is different every time you use it. Ten years ago the muslim population in the UK was "officially" 1.2 million and had not altered in 14 years, even thought 1 million new arrivals had taken place. Then in 2006 the truth emerged that the real figure was closer to 3.5 million and rising fast. So apply the higher percentage figure as the real one.

"WE" are not antagonising 15% of the worlds population we are running away from 20% + of the worlds most psychopathic killers. The same psychopathic killers that have it as one of their religious commands to "KILL ALL THE JEWS" then enslave everyone else.

I'm still waiting for you to show me the verse in the Koran that says "Kill all the Jews".

Historically, Jews did okay in Islamic Lands compared to Christian ones.

Oh, there is a religious leader that published a religious text called "The Jews and their Lies". Unfortunately, it wasn't Mohammed, it was Martin Luther. Not that the Lutherans will cop to that at their pancake breakfast.

 

[toastman]

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The problem with war today is that it has become a media circus, and every little infraction is blown up out of proportion. The muslims have the right idea encase the media in glass houses were they can see the war from a distance and drip feed them the enemies atrocities. Use some of your own to make it look worse than it really is and you get all the bleeding hearts on your side. We in the west are scared by press badges and cameras when we should be expelling those journo's that write against us.

No, dumbass.

The problem with war today is that we let special interests whip us up into a frenzy about going to war, and then when we find out it's usually under some kind of false pretense, people turn against it.

The Iraq War is a great example.

People did not turn agianst it because the Media "blew" Abu Grahib "out of proportion". That was actually a pretty terrible thing, and we didn't even see the worst pictures.

People turned against Iraq because it soon became apparent Bush and his PNAC/AIPAC/NeoCon buddies lied about the reasons we went in there.

There were no WMD's.

There was no working relationship between Bin Laden and Saddam.

Invading Iraq did not cause a wave of Democracy to sweep across the MIddle East.

That's why people turned against that.

Of course, the fact it dragged on for 10 years with little progress being made didn't help, either. Even in WWII, people were pretty tired of the thing by 1945.

Where did you read that AIPAC lied about the reasons the U.S went to Iraq ?

Or are you just parroting what all the other anti Zionists spew?

 

[JoeB131]

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Where did you read that AIPAC lied about the reasons the U.S went to Iraq ?

Or are you just parroting what all the other anti Zionists spew?

What, were you asleep during the whole of the Bush Administration?


For Israel Lobby Group, War Is Topic A

At an AIPAC session on Sunday night, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom proclaimed in a speech praising Secretary of State Colin L. Powell: "We have followed with great admiration your efforts to mobilize the international community to disarm Iraq and bring democracy and peace to the region, to the Middle East and to the rest of the world. Just imagine, Mr. Secretary, how much easier it would have been if Israel had been a member of the Security Council."

A parade of top Bush administration officials -- Powell, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, political director Kenneth Mehlman, Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton and Assistant Secretary of State William Burns -- appeared before the AIPAC audience. The officials won sustained cheers for their jabs at European opponents of war in Iraq, and their tough remarks aimed at two perennial foes of Israel, Syria and Iran.

The AIPAC meeting -- attended by about 5,000 people, including half the Senate and a third of the House -- was planned long before it became clear it would coincide with hostilities in Iraq. And organizers tried to play down the emphasis on Iraq, dedicating only one of its 12 "forums" during the conference to the war. "This is not about Iraq," said AIPAC spokesman Josh Block. "This is about going to Congress and lobbying for the Israeli aid package."

The reason for the sensitivity is clear. Internationally, anything that links Israel to the current war could alienate friendly Arab states by suggesting that the war is driven by Israel's interests. At home, the embrace of the war by an organization of influential Jews could fuel anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, though polls have indicated that American Jews are less likely to support the Iraq war than white Americans of other faiths.

AIPAC's fingerprints are all over that abortion. True, they don't want to cop to it now. I don't blame them. I also ain't gonna let them off the hook.

 

[toastman]

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Where did you read that AIPAC lied about the reasons the U.S went to Iraq ?

Or are you just parroting what all the other anti Zionists spew?

What, were you asleep during the whole of the Bush Administration?


For Israel Lobby Group, War Is Topic A

At an AIPAC session on Sunday night, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom proclaimed in a speech praising Secretary of State Colin L. Powell: "We have followed with great admiration your efforts to mobilize the international community to disarm Iraq and bring democracy and peace to the region, to the Middle East and to the rest of the world. Just imagine, Mr. Secretary, how much easier it would have been if Israel had been a member of the Security Council."

A parade of top Bush administration officials -- Powell, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, political director Kenneth Mehlman, Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton and Assistant Secretary of State William Burns -- appeared before the AIPAC audience. The officials won sustained cheers for their jabs at European opponents of war in Iraq, and their tough remarks aimed at two perennial foes of Israel, Syria and Iran.

The AIPAC meeting -- attended by about 5,000 people, including half the Senate and a third of the House -- was planned long before it became clear it would coincide with hostilities in Iraq. And organizers tried to play down the emphasis on Iraq, dedicating only one of its 12 "forums" during the conference to the war. "This is not about Iraq," said AIPAC spokesman Josh Block. "This is about going to Congress and lobbying for the Israeli aid package."

The reason for the sensitivity is clear. Internationally, anything that links Israel to the current war could alienate friendly Arab states by suggesting that the war is driven by Israel's interests. At home, the embrace of the war by an organization of influential Jews could fuel anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, though polls have indicated that American Jews are less likely to support the Iraq war than white Americans of other faiths.

AIPAC's fingerprints are all over that abortion. True, they don't want to cop to it now. I don't blame them. I also ain't gonna let them off the hook.

I see no lies in there. Try again.

 

[JoeB131]

Why should I? AIPAC was all for the War.

That's the point.

Because war benefitted the Zionist Entity. One more threat to them, out of the way.

Those 5000 American kids who came home in body bags... meh, they're only Gentiles.

 

[toastman]

Why should I? AIPAC was all for the War.

That's the point.

Because war benefitted the Zionist Entity. One more threat to them, out of the way.

Those 5000 American kids who came home in body bags... meh, they're only Gentiles.

Zionist Entity
Stop making me laugh please!

The U.S made the decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan
The U.S ordered troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[JoeB131]

Why should I? AIPAC was all for the War.

That's the point.

Because war benefitted the Zionist Entity. One more threat to them, out of the way.

Those 5000 American kids who came home in body bags... meh, they're only Gentiles.

Zionist Entity
Stop making me laugh please!

The U.S made the decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan
The U.S ordered troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.

I have no problem with the war in Afghanistan, other than the half-assed way Bush conducted it.

The War in Iraq, that was teh Zionists seeing an oppurtunity to get us to do in 2003 what they couldn't get us to do in 1991.

 

[toastman]

Why should I? AIPAC was all for the War.

That's the point.

Because war benefitted the Zionist Entity. One more threat to them, out of the way.

Those 5000 American kids who came home in body bags... meh, they're only Gentiles.

Zionist Entity
Stop making me laugh please!

The U.S made the decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan
The U.S ordered troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.

I have no problem with the war in Afghanistan, other than the half-assed way Bush conducted it.

The War in Iraq, that was teh Zionists seeing an oppurtunity to get us to do in 2003 what they couldn't get us to do in 1991.

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better Joe!

 

[pbel]

AIPAC, PNAC. Mass Media...Zionism controls American Pols through the Corruption of money...Wake Up America!

Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was an American think tank based in Washington, D.C. established in 1997 as a non-profit educational organization founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan. The PNAC's stated goal is "to promote American global leadership."[1] Fundamental to the PNAC were the view that "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world" and support for "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity."[2] With its members in numerous key administrative positions, the PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War.[3][

 

[Phoenall]

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It is because the source is different every time you use it. Ten years ago the muslim population in the UK was "officially" 1.2 million and had not altered in 14 years, even thought 1 million new arrivals had taken place. Then in 2006 the truth emerged that the real figure was closer to 3.5 million and rising fast. So apply the higher percentage figure as the real one.

"WE" are not antagonising 15% of the worlds population we are running away from 20% + of the worlds most psychopathic killers. The same psychopathic killers that have it as one of their religious commands to "KILL ALL THE JEWS" then enslave everyone else.

I'm still waiting for you to show me the verse in the Koran that says "Kill all the Jews".

Historically, Jews did okay in Islamic Lands compared to Christian ones.

Oh, there is a religious leader that published a religious text called "The Jews and their Lies". Unfortunately, it wasn't Mohammed, it was Martin Luther. Not that the Lutherans will cop to that at their pancake breakfast.

Plenty of Islamic religious leaders have said KILL ALL THE JEWS

You read Islamic history that is full of lies, and no two ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS tell the same story. You and the little boy monte disagree on this

Now to the Koran

Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”

Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”


Then the hadiths

6980

Thaur b. Zaid has narrated this hadith with the same chain of transmitters.


6981

Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me) ; kill him.


6982

Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):" There is a Jew behind me."


6983

Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.


6984

Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.


6985

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.


6986

Jabir b. Samura reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Before the Last Hour there would be many liars, and there is an addition in the badith transmitted on the authority of Abu Ahwas of these words:" I said to him: Did you hear it from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him)? He said: Yes."


6987

This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Simak with the same chain of transmitters. and Simak said: I heard my brother say that jabir had stated: Be on your guard against them.


6988

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour would not come until there would arise about thirty impostors, liars, and each one of them would claim that he is a messenger of Allah.

 

[Phoenall]

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Where did you read that AIPAC lied about the reasons the U.S went to Iraq ?

Or are you just parroting what all the other anti Zionists spew?

What, were you asleep during the whole of the Bush Administration?


For Israel Lobby Group, War Is Topic A

At an AIPAC session on Sunday night, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom proclaimed in a speech praising Secretary of State Colin L. Powell: "We have followed with great admiration your efforts to mobilize the international community to disarm Iraq and bring democracy and peace to the region, to the Middle East and to the rest of the world. Just imagine, Mr. Secretary, how much easier it would have been if Israel had been a member of the Security Council."

A parade of top Bush administration officials -- Powell, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, political director Kenneth Mehlman, Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton and Assistant Secretary of State William Burns -- appeared before the AIPAC audience. The officials won sustained cheers for their jabs at European opponents of war in Iraq, and their tough remarks aimed at two perennial foes of Israel, Syria and Iran.

The AIPAC meeting -- attended by about 5,000 people, including half the Senate and a third of the House -- was planned long before it became clear it would coincide with hostilities in Iraq. And organizers tried to play down the emphasis on Iraq, dedicating only one of its 12 "forums" during the conference to the war. "This is not about Iraq," said AIPAC spokesman Josh Block. "This is about going to Congress and lobbying for the Israeli aid package."

The reason for the sensitivity is clear. Internationally, anything that links Israel to the current war could alienate friendly Arab states by suggesting that the war is driven by Israel's interests. At home, the embrace of the war by an organization of influential Jews could fuel anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, though polls have indicated that American Jews are less likely to support the Iraq war than white Americans of other faiths.

AIPAC's fingerprints are all over that abortion. True, they don't want to cop to it now. I don't blame them. I also ain't gonna let them off the hook.

So no actual evidence just your ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED giving you a feeling that it was that way

 

[Phoenall]

Why should I? AIPAC was all for the War.

That's the point.

Because war benefitted the Zionist Entity. One more threat to them, out of the way.

Those 5000 American kids who came home in body bags... meh, they're only Gentiles.

And once again an ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST shows its true colours by spewing "Zionist entity" as only the can. It is still a RACIST ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED term