US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
I don't believe Assange one bit. Also, the FBI and the CIA agree totally that the Russians were behind the hacks. Where they disagree on (and I think that might have changed to agreement) - is on what Russia's motivation was.
Gap on Russia hacking conclusions between intelligence, FBI - CNNPolitics.com
Q&A: Why the CIA, FBI differ on Russian election hacking
Really good articles and they explain it very clearly.
First - they are all in agreement that Russia WAS behind the hacks.
No a single one disputes that.
Where there are differences is in what Russia's motivations were as well as differences in how the different intelligence agencies reach conclusions and what standards of evidence they require.
From the USA Today article:
Q: On what points of the new Russian assessment do the CIA and other intelligence authorities differ with the FBI?
A: The FBI does not dispute that the CIA's assessment could be accurate, said a U.S. official with knowledge of the matter. The difference lies in the institutional standards the agencies require in reaching such conclusions. While the CIA develops assessments based on a broad interpretation of available data, the FBI, as a law enforcement agency, requires a standard of proof that could sustain a possible criminal prosecution.
There have been differences, the official said, in how much weight to ascribe a range of possible motives: Were the Russians specifically seeking to tilt the election in favor of Trump? Was the effort designed to damage Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's future ability to govern, believing that she was destined to win? Or was the operation a hedging of bets to sow confusion and undermine confidence in the process?
Of the assessment that the Republican Party systems were likely breached, the official said the picture is not entirely clear. While not dismissing the intelligence community's conclusion, the official said a more definitive determination has not yet been reached.
I think this part is also extremely interesting (and to those who hate Obama and think this is all about discrediting Trump's election, take note):
Q: What is the government doing to more definitively determine the extent of Russia's intrusions into the election process?
A: The Obama administration has ordered a review of attempts by foreign hackers to influence U.S. elections. The review, to be completed before President Obama leaves office on Jan. 20, is expected to examine the past three presidential elections.
“We may have crossed into a new threshold, and it is incumbent upon us to take stock of that, to review, to conduct some after-action, to understand what has happened and to impart some lessons learned,” Obama’s counterterrorism and homeland security adviser, Lisa Monaco, told reporters Friday.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Monday that two Senate committees would investigate the CIA's new assessment of Russia's involvement.
He said the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee will conduct bipartisan reviews. Late Monday, a third Senate panel, the Foreign Relations Committee, also indicated it will review the matter.
"Obviously, any foreign breach of our cyber-security measures is disturbing and I strongly condemn any such efforts," McConnell told reporters Monday.
I don't for the life of me understand why people don't take this seriously, why they think it should just be ignored.
