US EXPELS 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds.

[Avatar4321]

If you anti-Americans love Putin/Russia so much. Move your un- patriotic ass over to Russia and don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way outa here!

So if we don't want war with Russia, that means we "love" Russia?

But you're fine with starting a war with Iran. You guys are too damn funny

No, war with Iran also would be a bad idea.

But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure

 

[Coyote]

If you anti-Americans love Putin/Russia so much. Move your un- patriotic ass over to Russia and don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way outa here!

So if we don't want war with Russia, that means we "love" Russia?

But you're fine with starting a war with Iran. You guys are too damn funny

No, war with Iran also would be a bad idea.

But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure

It's hardly war, not even close.

What do you think we should do?

Ignore it?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Also bear in mind that Reuters is fake news.

I'm listening to my source speak of it this moment, and as i'm hearing it this is very DANGEROUS for Obama to currently be playing.
THERE IS SOMETHING BIG AND NOT GOOD COMING OF THIS................

What worries me is the game McCain and Graham are playing. Trying to ratchet up aggression against Russia. McCain is demanding we seriously arm the Ukraine.

That would be bad. Very bad. If the US decides to do so there will be hell to pay. Putin has already claimed that the latest round of arms to the terrorists in Syria he considers an 'ACT OF WAR".

Obama just can't seem to let it go that he failed in Syria to remove Assad and put in the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm praying that McCain's pleas fall on deaf ears.

Well John McCain is an unhinged psychopath and Lindsay Graham is a sexually frustrated ******, I'm sure if Lindsay could get a good shafting up his ass every day he'd be a lot less crazed.

 

[MindWars]

Confirmed Russia Hacked US Government Report 13 pages https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf …

That's all well and good, but it boils down extremely poor cyber and network security, and the absence of adequate user training. Implementing safe practices the DNC didn't was the reason the RNC wasn't penetrated when they were targeted.

We are nearly all targeted everyday, most of them are less destructive than others. We need to take the proper steps to secure our home networks and learn to spot potential hazards.

Look Russia did NOT hack chit, and if anyone bothered to research the MSM POS news claimed it themselves the Election's can't be hacked lol And, why because they claim the machines are NOT even connected to the internet , Most of them aren't
then you have like this guy claims and says it only online at the last phase of submission.

Stanart: local elections cannot be hacked or rigged

Stanart: local elections cannot be hacked or rigged

 

[MindWars]

If you anti-Americans love Putin/Russia so much. Move your un- patriotic ass over to Russia and don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way outa here!

So if we don't want war with Russia, that means we "love" Russia?

But you're fine with starting a war with Iran. You guys are too damn funny

No, war with Iran also would be a bad idea.

But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure

It's hardly war, not even close.

What do you think we should do?

Ignore it?

We're in a war quite a few wars already.

 

[Coyote]

Also bear in mind that Reuters is fake news.

I'm listening to my source speak of it this moment, and as i'm hearing it this is very DANGEROUS for Obama to currently be playing.
THERE IS SOMETHING BIG AND NOT GOOD COMING OF THIS................

What worries me is the game McCain and Graham are playing. Trying to ratchet up aggression against Russia. McCain is demanding we seriously arm the Ukraine.

That would be bad. Very bad. If the US decides to do so there will be hell to pay. Putin has already claimed that the latest round of arms to the terrorists in Syria he considers an 'ACT OF WAR".

Obama just can't seem to let it go that he failed in Syria to remove Assad and put in the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm praying that McCain's pleas fall on deaf ears.

Well John McCain is an unhinged psychopath and Lindsay Graham is a sexually frustrated ******, I'm sure if Lindsay could get a good shafting up his ass every day he'd be a lot less crazed.

ummh....Lucy...TMI....

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Also bear in mind that Reuters is fake news.

I'm listening to my source speak of it this moment, and as i'm hearing it this is very DANGEROUS for Obama to currently be playing.
THERE IS SOMETHING BIG AND NOT GOOD COMING OF THIS................

What worries me is the game McCain and Graham are playing. Trying to ratchet up aggression against Russia. McCain is demanding we seriously arm the Ukraine.

That would be bad. Very bad. If the US decides to do so there will be hell to pay. Putin has already claimed that the latest round of arms to the terrorists in Syria he considers an 'ACT OF WAR".

Obama just can't seem to let it go that he failed in Syria to remove Assad and put in the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm praying that McCain's pleas fall on deaf ears.

Well John McCain is an unhinged psychopath and Lindsay Graham is a sexually frustrated ******, I'm sure if Lindsay could get a good shafting up his ass every day he'd be a lot less crazed.

ummh....Lucy...TMI....

"ummh....Lucy...TMI...."

No problem

 

[Coyote]

So if we don't want war with Russia, that means we "love" Russia?

But you're fine with starting a war with Iran. You guys are too damn funny

No, war with Iran also would be a bad idea.

But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure

It's hardly war, not even close.

What do you think we should do?

Ignore it?

We're in a war quite a few wars already.

Yes, we are. About time someone noticed.

There is no indication that this is going to lead to any war. Tell me - did you jump all over Trump for "escalating tensions" with China before he was even in office?

 

[aris2chat]

Hillary nearly started a war with Russia, not Obama is intentionally trying.

Russia is not angel, far from it, but you need a dialog with them as the "other world power" to bring balance.

If you can talk, you can negotiate.

The more contentious the situation the more the US will be the one compromising instead of coming from a position strengthening it forces and standing.

Obama is sawing through all the chair legs, 3/4 of the way, so they break when you sit down. A toddler having a tantrum at the world's expense

UK was chastising Obama and Kerry today

I'm not sure I'm understanding your logical gymnastics here.

Are you saying that we should be nice to Russia and do whatever they want, because that will put us in a "position of strength"?

You don't kick them in the nuts if you want them to sit and work out any problems without violence

 

[Avatar4321]

Hillary nearly started a war with Russia, not Obama is intentionally trying.

Russia is not angel, far from it, but you need a dialog with them as the "other world power" to bring balance.

If you can talk, you can negotiate.

The more contentious the situation the more the US will be the one compromising instead of coming from a position strengthening it forces and standing.

Obama is sawing through all the chair legs, 3/4 of the way, so they break when you sit down. A toddler having a tantrum at the world's expense

UK was chastising Obama and Kerry today

I'm not sure I'm understanding your logical gymnastics here.

Are you saying that we should be nice to Russia and do whatever they want, because that will put us in a "position of strength"?

No, just have evidence your biggest enemy actually did what you think, before accusations are made. Seems fair for a power house to do right?

The fact that you haven't personally seen the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

But fact that we haven't seen the evidence is a pretty good reason not to raise tensions abruptly while Obama is on his way out the door

 

[LoneLaugher]

If you anti-Americans love Putin/Russia so much. Move your un- patriotic ass over to Russia and don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way outa here!

You don't have to love Russia to realize provoking them is stupid

Did Russia not provoke us?

 

[Coyote]

Hillary nearly started a war with Russia, not Obama is intentionally trying.

Russia is not angel, far from it, but you need a dialog with them as the "other world power" to bring balance.

If you can talk, you can negotiate.

The more contentious the situation the more the US will be the one compromising instead of coming from a position strengthening it forces and standing.

Obama is sawing through all the chair legs, 3/4 of the way, so they break when you sit down. A toddler having a tantrum at the world's expense

UK was chastising Obama and Kerry today

I'm not sure I'm understanding your logical gymnastics here.

Are you saying that we should be nice to Russia and do whatever they want, because that will put us in a "position of strength"?

You don't kick them in the nuts if you want them to sit and work out any problems without violence

In diplomatic maneuvering - you also don't take a kick in the nuts when it's strategically better not to. A small country, like the Philippines - you can ignore a kick in the nuts and do something minor, like cancel a meeting. With a country like Russia, committing a much larger transgression, I think a point needs to be made or Russia, being Russia, will just keep on doing it.

 

[beagle9]

Easy enough for the real president to undo.

We will be lucky to not be in a world war 3 before the " real president" get into office and that is providing they don't kill him first.

if he is indeed our first real president since JFK who will serve the people instead of the bankers you are correct,that is why they killed JFK was he had signed an executive order to end the fed. AN order that no president since then has reinstated. will the donald be the first? will HE be brave enough to do so?

. You want Donald dead, is that what your little post is suggesting ??

 

[MindWars]

Yet you demanded no proof on Iran.
You demanded no proof on NK.
You believed what our intelligence agencies were saying THEN.

You see the disconnect here?

I'll grant you that point as technically correct...but... Those were obviously believable and had confirmation from other nations. NK went nuclear under Bush. Iran got their technology from Russia.

Now, all we have is anonymous sources and no proof. There is quite a distinct difference.

Besides, prior actions have no bearing on the question at hand. The issue is specific and unique.

Obviously believable? Come on.

NK hacked Sony in response to a movie that ridiculed their Fearless Leader. We responded. No one asked for proof. Iran was working on nuclear enrichment. No named sources there. No one asked for proof. While not openly admitting it - we hacked them with stuxnet. No one asked for proof or named sources. Named sources almost NEVER emerge in intelligence like that. The best you get in an ongoing event is the intelligence agencies speaking.

Consider this.
Russia IS suffering under the sanctions imposed by Obama and Clinton as SOS, in response to their actions in Crimea and Ukraine. It's have an economic impact that's particularly felt given the crash in oil prices. Putin wants the sanctions lifted. He's also angry at Obama and Clinton over this. Did he INTEND to affect the election? Or did he INTEND to just disrupt things and cause mischief? Either is possible. Follow the money and follow who benefits: a Trump victory benefits Putin because it offers a better chance of getting sanctions lifted than a Clinton victory. Only the DNC was hacked and emails weren't just dumped on mass but strategically dumped to affect ONLY Clinton. Why isn't it obviously believable that Russia was involved? You have a potential benefit to Russia (at absolutely no cost); you have all of our intelligence agencies in a rare agreement, and you have a pretty darn good reason for Russia to be behind this - sanctions imposed by Obama & Clinton.

But only now is a higher standard of "proof" being demanded. Russia is no newcomer to these games - what's new is the ready willingness of some to believe Putin OVER our own government, our own president, our own intelligence agencies, our own congress - and all I can say is WTF y'all?

You Leftists used to worship Russia, you stopped worshipping Russia ONLY when it stopped being a Communist nation.

Now you are all anti-Russian, you're all still pro-Cuba and pro-North Korea though.

We are?

Yes, the most recent example with the Leftists still worshipping Cuba was when that POS Fidel Castro died and across the planet the Leftists were saying what a GIANT of the world stage he was and was a GREAT man he was and the Fidel Lovefest went on for days and days.

From what I have learned the reason Obama has done what he did with Cuba ( became friends) is so when it comes time to bring troops here and disperse them on US soil they can quickly be dispersed throughout the Country if need be, and no it won't be to help and assist Americans it will be to attack us.

 

[Coyote]

Hillary nearly started a war with Russia, not Obama is intentionally trying.

Russia is not angel, far from it, but you need a dialog with them as the "other world power" to bring balance.

If you can talk, you can negotiate.

The more contentious the situation the more the US will be the one compromising instead of coming from a position strengthening it forces and standing.

Obama is sawing through all the chair legs, 3/4 of the way, so they break when you sit down. A toddler having a tantrum at the world's expense

UK was chastising Obama and Kerry today

I'm not sure I'm understanding your logical gymnastics here.

Are you saying that we should be nice to Russia and do whatever they want, because that will put us in a "position of strength"?

No, just have evidence your biggest enemy actually did what you think, before accusations are made. Seems fair for a power house to do right?

The fact that you haven't personally seen the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

But fact that we haven't seen the evidence is a pretty good reason not to raise tensions abruptly while Obama is on his way out the door

Did that stop us from "raising tensions" with NK or Iran?

BTW - every President prior to Iran has used the end of his term to complete a lot of things. Obama is no different.

 

[beagle9]

If you anti-Americans love Putin/Russia so much. Move your un- patriotic ass over to Russia and don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way outa here!

You don't have to love Russia to realize provoking them is stupid

Did Russia not provoke us?

Uhhh let's see now, ummm Hillary lost.... Nope, they didn't provoke us at all...

 

[aris2chat]

US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

But you're fine with starting a war with Iran. You guys are too damn funny

No, war with Iran also would be a bad idea.

But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure

It's hardly war, not even close.

What do you think we should do?

Ignore it?

We're in a war quite a few wars already.

Yes, we are. About time someone noticed.

There is no indication that this is going to lead to any war. Tell me - did you jump all over Trump for "escalating tensions" with China before he was even in office?

China is more a danger than Russia is, I'm not for escalating tensions, I'm for de-escalating tensions.

We have a fundamental problem with ISIS and Islamic terrorism from those who support ISIS, in my opinion this is what we should be dealing with in a full-spectrum way. This is the actual war and ALL nations in the Western world need to come together to deal with this and we also need to have Russia helping, Russia is our friend and not our foe.

China can be dealt with in other ways, ways that don't have to involve escalating tensions.

 

[Coyote]

I'll grant you that point as technically correct...but... Those were obviously believable and had confirmation from other nations. NK went nuclear under Bush. Iran got their technology from Russia.

Now, all we have is anonymous sources and no proof. There is quite a distinct difference.

Besides, prior actions have no bearing on the question at hand. The issue is specific and unique.

Obviously believable? Come on.

NK hacked Sony in response to a movie that ridiculed their Fearless Leader. We responded. No one asked for proof. Iran was working on nuclear enrichment. No named sources there. No one asked for proof. While not openly admitting it - we hacked them with stuxnet. No one asked for proof or named sources. Named sources almost NEVER emerge in intelligence like that. The best you get in an ongoing event is the intelligence agencies speaking.

Consider this.
Russia IS suffering under the sanctions imposed by Obama and Clinton as SOS, in response to their actions in Crimea and Ukraine. It's have an economic impact that's particularly felt given the crash in oil prices. Putin wants the sanctions lifted. He's also angry at Obama and Clinton over this. Did he INTEND to affect the election? Or did he INTEND to just disrupt things and cause mischief? Either is possible. Follow the money and follow who benefits: a Trump victory benefits Putin because it offers a better chance of getting sanctions lifted than a Clinton victory. Only the DNC was hacked and emails weren't just dumped on mass but strategically dumped to affect ONLY Clinton. Why isn't it obviously believable that Russia was involved? You have a potential benefit to Russia (at absolutely no cost); you have all of our intelligence agencies in a rare agreement, and you have a pretty darn good reason for Russia to be behind this - sanctions imposed by Obama & Clinton.

But only now is a higher standard of "proof" being demanded. Russia is no newcomer to these games - what's new is the ready willingness of some to believe Putin OVER our own government, our own president, our own intelligence agencies, our own congress - and all I can say is WTF y'all?

You Leftists used to worship Russia, you stopped worshipping Russia ONLY when it stopped being a Communist nation.

Now you are all anti-Russian, you're all still pro-Cuba and pro-North Korea though.

We are?

Yes, the most recent example with the Leftists still worshipping Cuba was when that POS Fidel Castro died and across the planet the Leftists were saying what a GIANT of the world stage he was and was a GREAT man he was and the Fidel Lovefest went on for days and days.

From what I have learned the reason Obama has done what he did with Cuba ( became friends) is so when it comes time to bring troops here and disperse them on US soil they can quickly be dispersed throughout the Country if need be, and no it won't be to help and assist Americans it will be to attack us.

That's a bit crazy. The reason he did is it is beyond time to normalize relations. Castro was dying, the embargos and restrictions accomplished nothing, and it's possible that free trade and travel would do more to induce change than embargos.

 

[beagle9]

Hillary nearly started a war with Russia, not Obama is intentionally trying.

Russia is not angel, far from it, but you need a dialog with them as the "other world power" to bring balance.

If you can talk, you can negotiate.

The more contentious the situation the more the US will be the one compromising instead of coming from a position strengthening it forces and standing.

Obama is sawing through all the chair legs, 3/4 of the way, so they break when you sit down. A toddler having a tantrum at the world's expense

UK was chastising Obama and Kerry today

I'm not sure I'm understanding your logical gymnastics here.

Are you saying that we should be nice to Russia and do whatever they want, because that will put us in a "position of strength"?

No, just have evidence your biggest enemy actually did what you think, before accusations are made. Seems fair for a power house to do right?

The fact that you haven't personally seen the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

But fact that we haven't seen the evidence is a pretty good reason not to raise tensions abruptly while Obama is on his way out the door

Did that stop us from "raising tensions" with NK or Iran?

BTW - every President prior to Iran has used the end of his term to complete a lot of things. Obama is no different.

. What ? Complete his destruction of America ?