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US Drawing Up Plans To Sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet: Ukrainian Official

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I miss Trump every day.
No threat of Nuclear War
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Wow why did you vote to screw it up?

Mean tweets?
 

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I hope Putin doesn't push the button and launch all of its nuclear bombs.
Dang... Thanks Brandon.
Well no more abortions needed
 

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Russia knows better than to nuke anyone
They would be annihilated
Putin is a psychopath---he doesn't care about anyone else at all
If he fails, the other oligarths will kill him
psychopaths are notoriously VINDICTIVE as FUCK

Destroying Russias navy is going to trigger putin to declare war on everyone else---out of vengeance. Who lives and dies will not matter to putin if he is going to die anyways..
 

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Hold on thar Buster.Like We also elected Biden to start a Treaty
{ in January } with the WHO as legal authority run by the United Nations
to control all aspects of Pandemics,plus any and all new Health Issues.
Just another sneaky aspect of how and why Biden was put in as a
Puppet authoritarian.To slowly degrade and weaken a once Superpower.
ALL under the auspice of New World Order Tyrants .
The goal is World Depopulation.In short making sure Millions
upon Millions of Humans perish on earth.Under whatever evil they can
prescribe.Famine.Disease.Suicide.mass hysteria and bloodshed.
We already see how the Democrats are tickled pink to engage in another
Summer of Love.No sane American Patriot ever voted for that.
BLM was a crock.Lockdowns,also.Vaccines that aren't technically
Vaccines but experimental drugs.That DON'T STOP COVID.
Russia also "elected" Putin to uphold their treaties, which he broke with Ukraine. That's why the entire Western world is aligned to defeat and to deter the insane autocrat that holds a nuclear arsenal and is trying to use it as an offensive weapon to conquer a European country. Biden did not cause these events, Putin caused these events.

The reason Finland and Sweden sent their leaders to meet with Biden and to take lots of pictures with him is not because they like the cut of Biden's jib, or because they love hearing Corn Pop stories. It is because this is much bigger than not just Biden, but also bigger than just the United States.

Snap out of your narrow-minded, stimulus-response, cult fever dream. Some things matter more.
 

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What a buffoon.Russia can in half a days time wipe Ukraine off the map.
Yer just plain retarded.Like Biden and his cabal.
Sure, with nukes, but without nukes it is not clear Russia will be able to hold on to any part of Ukraine. You should know that these lame nuclear threats don't make you sound scary, they make you sound desperate.
 

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We shouldn't be worried if Ukraine sinks Russian ships using US anti ship missiles. We have given the Ukrainians anti aircraft missiles to shoot down Russan aircraft and anti tank missiles to blow up Russian tanks and heavy artillery to blow up everything Russian, so what's the big deal about giving Ukraine anti ship missiles to sink Russian ships? Actually, breaking the Russian blockade would be a service to the whole world.
Land based weaponry is one thing in order to feed the grunt's on the ground as they somewhat equally slug it out in the dirt is one thing, but upping the stakes therefore causing Russia to lose ship's at sea is quite the other. That would be escalation beyond the pale probably in Putin's eyes, so that little black briefcase he carries just might get opened.
 

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Putin is a psychopath---he doesn't care about anyone else at all
If he fails, the other oligarths will kill him
psychopaths are notoriously VINDICTIVE as FUCK

Destroying Russias navy is going to trigger putin to declare war on everyone else---out of vengeance. Who lives and dies will not matter to putin if he is going to die anyways..
Pure logic and common sense here. Thanks
 

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Sure, with nukes, but without nukes it is not clear Russia will be able to hold on to any part of Ukraine. You should know that these lame nuclear threats don't make you sound scary, they make you sound desperate.
As if Foolardi is the one doing the threatening here.. lol.

I'm amazed really, otherwise if the war is going as badly for Putin as the Media is reporting, because the fact that he hasn't used a battlefield tactical nuke as of yet is something to scratch our heads about isn't it ??

Would hate to ever see anything like that happen, but when dealing with a major war, and with a country that has the nuclear capabilities that it has, then it's really a wonderment of "when" something like that might happen, and not so much as a matter of "if" he will actually finally decide to use such capabilities as he has on his table of options still left in the bread basket.

Hope that we don't aid in such a thing by our pushing Zelensky to think that PUTIN won't do it when Putin will, and then the world has to sit back in amazement after he does do it. It won't be our fault, but being tangled up in it like we are would definitely cause some backlash.

We should be working with both sides to quickly de-escalate the war instead of ignoring Putin totally, therefore leaving him and his people alone in the decision making of what to do next, otherwise if they think that they are suddenly backed into a corner with no way out.

We should be the peacemaker's for both sides, and not warmongers seeking to escalate the situation out of control because we've taken a side against another in a possible nuclear fueled escalatory situation.

Threat's can be real or not, but acting that it's no big deal going nuclear is never something to play with in an irresponsible or irrational way.

This shouldn't become a high stakes game of poker where the bluffing is found not to be that of a bluff at all, but rather it was a full house with aces and kings when the hand was finally called and played. No one wins in that situation.

We should want Ukraine and Russia to live in peace again as neighbor's, and that takes diplomacy like we've never seen before, but not sure where we are at when looking at the constant war rhetoric that is in play now.
 

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I hope Putin doesn't push the button and launch all of its nuclear bombs.
Dang... Thanks Brandon.
Well no more abortions needed
The nuclear abortion.. That would be tragic for sure.
 

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I hope Putin doesn't push the button and launch all of its nuclear bombs.
Dang... Thanks Brandon.
Well no more abortions needed
True. An all out nuclear war would change things dramatically.

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Land based weaponry is one thing in order to feed the grunt's on the ground as they somewhat equally slug it out in the dirt is one thing, but upping the stakes therefore causing Russia to lose ship's at sea is quite the other. That would be escalation beyond the pale probably in Putin's eyes, so that little black briefcase he carries just might get opened.
There is no escalation. The Russian ships in question are blockading Ukrainian ports, which is an act of war, so they are legitimate targets just as helicopters are.
 

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There is no escalation. The Russian ships in question are blockading Ukrainian ports, which is an act of war, so they are legitimate targets just as helicopters are.
An act of war ? Hmmm what's been going on in Ukraine, a girl scout cookie sale ?? Putin looks like he's in it to win it or why else would he be willing to lose so much and yet keep going ??
 

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Russia knows better than to nuke anyone
They would be annihilated
yes, and we should also understand that we could be annihilated if we attack Russia. Is Ukraine worth the lives of 100 million americans? Let Russia have it back, who cares? its none of our business, except to keep the money flowing to the Biden family.
 

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There is no escalation. The Russian ships in question are blockading Ukrainian ports, which is an act of war, so they are legitimate targets just as helicopters are.
legitimate targets for Ukraine, not the USA. its none of our fricken business and is not worth one american soldier's life.
 

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Wow why did you vote to screw it up?

Mean tweets?
his tweets were not mean, simply truthful.
 

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An act of war ? Hmmm what's been going on in Ukraine, a girl scout cookie sale ?? Putin looks like he's in it to win it or why else would he be willing to lose so much and yet keep going ??
so what? why should we get involved? why should american kids die for Ukraine?
 

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As if Foolardi is the one doing the threatening here.. lol.

I'm amazed really, otherwise if the war is going as badly for Putin as the Media is reporting, because the fact that he hasn't used a battlefield tactical nuke as of yet is something to scratch our heads about isn't it ??

Would hate to ever see anything like that happen, but when dealing with a major war, and with a country that has the nuclear capabilities that it has, then it's really a wonderment of "when" something like that might happen, and not so much as a matter of "if" he will actually finally decide to use such capabilities as he has on his table of options still left in the bread basket.

Hope that we don't aid in such a thing by our pushing Zelensky to think that PUTIN won't do it when Putin will, and then the world has to sit back in amazement after he does do it. It won't be our fault, but being tangled up in it like we are would definitely cause some backlash.

We should be working with both sides to quickly de-escalate the war instead of ignoring Putin totally, therefore leaving him and his people alone in the decision making of what to do next, otherwise if they think that they are suddenly backed into a corner with no way out.

We should be the peacemaker's for both sides, and not warmongers seeking to escalate the situation out of control because we've taken a side against another in a possible nuclear fueled escalatory situation.

Threat's can be real or not, but acting that it's no big deal going nuclear is never something to play with in an irresponsible or irrational way.

This shouldn't become a high stakes game of poker where the bluffing is found not to be that of a bluff at all, but rather it was a full house with aces and kings when the hand was finally called and played. No one wins in that situation.

We should want Ukraine and Russia to live in peace again as neighbor's, and that takes diplomacy like we've never seen before, but not sure where we are at when looking at the constant war rhetoric that is in play now.
You are confused. This is not a war between Russia and the US or Russia and NATO; it is a war between Russia and Ukraine and the Ukrainians show no indication they want to quit until Russia completely withdraws from Ukraine. The Ukrainians understand that Putin has nukes and they still are determined to fight until Russia completely withdraws from Ukraine. When you suggest the US is "pushing" Ukraine to take certain decisions, you are just echoing Putin's bs propaganda that this is really a war between Russia and the US instead of a war between Russia and Ukraine. The Ukrainians are not cringing in fear of Russian nukes as Putin and his supporters, and perhaps you, had hoped they would be, and it is the Ukrainians who are making the decisions.

The suggestion that the US should try to push Ukraine into a "compromise" with Russia is preposterous. France and Germany pressured Ukraine to sigh an agreement giving up territory in 2014 for the sake of peace with Russia, and Putin took it as weakness and made him believe that the US and Europe would not respond strongly to another invasion of Ukraine and that led to this war so when you say compromise you really mean surrender and the Ukrainians have made it quite clear they won't do this.

The only path to peace in the area is for Russia to withdraw from Ukraine and providing anti ship missiles to Ukraine to break the Russian blockade is a step in the direction of peace; signing an agreement with Russia is a step toward a greater war between Russia and NATO.
 

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As if Foolardi is the one doing the threatening here.. lol.

I'm amazed really, otherwise if the war is going as badly for Putin as the Media is reporting, because the fact that he hasn't used a battlefield tactical nuke as of yet is something to scratch our heads about isn't it ??

Would hate to ever see anything like that happen, but when dealing with a major war, and with a country that has the nuclear capabilities that it has, then it's really a wonderment of "when" something like that might happen, and not so much as a matter of "if" he will actually finally decide to use such capabilities as he has on his table of options still left in the bread basket.

Hope that we don't aid in such a thing by our pushing Zelensky to think that PUTIN won't do it when Putin will, and then the world has to sit back in amazement after he does do it. It won't be our fault, but being tangled up in it like we are would definitely cause some backlash.

We should be working with both sides to quickly de-escalate the war instead of ignoring Putin totally, therefore leaving him and his people alone in the decision making of what to do next, otherwise if they think that they are suddenly backed into a corner with no way out.

We should be the peacemaker's for both sides, and not warmongers seeking to escalate the situation out of control because we've taken a side against another in a possible nuclear fueled escalatory situation.

Threat's can be real or not, but acting that it's no big deal going nuclear is never something to play with in an irresponsible or irrational way.

This shouldn't become a high stakes game of poker where the bluffing is found not to be that of a bluff at all, but rather it was a full house with aces and kings when the hand was finally called and played. No one wins in that situation.

We should want Ukraine and Russia to live in peace again as neighbor's, and that takes diplomacy like we've never seen before, but not sure where we are at when looking at the constant war rhetoric that is in play now.
Ukraine was part of the soviet union for decades. they are not simply neighbors. many Ukrainians want to rejoin Russia. This is not as simple as the american war hawks want to make it.
 

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yes, and we should also understand that we could be annihilated if we attack Russia. Is Ukraine worth the lives of 100 million americans? Let Russia have it back, who cares? its none of our business, except to keep the money flowing to the Biden family.
We don’t have to attack Russia

Let Ukraine do it
 

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