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US Drawing Up Plans To Sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet: Ukrainian Official

Fort Fun Indiana

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leave it to the baby killer in chief, the anti-America commie in chief to start a war w/ a big world power tht has nuclear weapons
Another morally confused american.

Putin started the war. We haven't rolled one us soldier or vehicle on him.
 
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If not for the MAD threat, Russia would have been broken up into small more controllable states by America 30 years ago.

Not America is trying to demonstrate that it's not too late.
 
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Absolutely, that's why I mentioned it. If not for the nuclear threat, a10s and f35s would have turned Putin's entire armored military into a bunch of smoking husks already.



The poorer people in poorer countries who are counting on those grain imports to eat? The ones who will be outbid by richer people as the food supply shrinks? No, actually, they are staring the proposition of starving right in the face, right now. Go read up. You are under informed.
This is due to the US proxy war against Russia. I really don't think it's going to work, because Russia will turn to a nuclear WW3 before ever capitulating.

When have Americans ever been concerned about other people starving to death? Never mind America's slaughter of people of the world under it's bombs?

As you may have read, Russia has offered options but in America's eyes, nothing is acceptable in order to hold off the starvation to come.

For once at least, Russia could be seen as responsible for world hunger!
 
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Another morally confused american.

Putin started the war. We haven't rolled one us soldier or vehicle on him.
In truth there have been many US soldiers who made their own choice of dying for America's cause.

And as for America's vehicles?

You misspoke before your brain kicked in.
 

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This is due to the US proxy war against Russia. I really don't think it's going to work, because Russia will turn to a nuclear WW3 before ever capitulating.

Um, do you realize we have the capability, in a SINGLE nuclear submarine, to make Russia an unlivable glowing pile of sand for the next 5 generations? And we have at least 14 subs like this. And you don't think Russia knows this? They can threaten what they want. They want to play the game, they won't come out the winner.
 
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Let them sleep with the fishes
and where will you sleep when Russia drops a nuke on your city? this is the most stupid idea ever from the most stupid administration ever, and idiots like you just rave on.
 

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Um, do you realize we have the capability, in a SINGLE nuclear submarine, to make Russia an unlivable glowing pile of sand for the next 5 generations? And you don't think Russia knows this? They can threaten what they want. They want to play the game, they won't come out the winner.
and in retaliation they would do the same to the USA. then China wins, you fricken idiot.
 

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Which is due to Russia violating treaties and world order and 3 times invading European countries. You sure do love your half truths.
Ukraine was part of the soviet union for years. it is a very corrupt country run by criminals. let Russia have it back, then they have to deal with its corruption, but can't do that, it would cut off the Ukrainian money to the Biden family.
 

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and in retaliation they would do the same to the USA. then China wins, you fricken idiot.

If Russia starts it, then it would be in retaliation. We have a right to retaliate in kind with nuclear weapons you fucking moron. You can't start a war and then get pissed off when people fight back.

Unlike Russia, we have several missile defense systems set up around the world. We couldn't stop every missile, but just the threat of being able to stop SOME will stop Russia because then MAD starts to get a little more dicey.
 

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Even if it's only going to start with one ship at a time, will this be a critical escalation and the end of mutually agreed upon rules governing this war?

Or could this be only in the interests of America's 'confidence' propaganda being used to ensure the Amerian people that they are still safe?

It really does appear to have some negative effect on building confidence in American minds!

And IMHO it's a bit puzzling on what the purpose could be when the ability to sink Russia's fleet is already there?
Great news.
 

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Possibilities for Russia:
Destroying the rocket launcher(s) before they are operational.

Destroying a US ship in retaliation

Russia using a tactical nuclear weapon.

Russia suffering the loss and continuing the war to completion.

Russia suffering the loss and retreating back to Russian borders.
The last option is the only one that is feasible.
 

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Um, do you realize we have the capability, in a SINGLE nuclear submarine, to make Russia an unlivable glowing pile of sand for the next 5 generations? And we have at least 14 subs like this. And you don't think Russia knows this? They can threaten what they want. They want to play the game, they won't come out the winner.
And when Russian icbms fall in Europe and in the US, will the US and Europe be wwinners?

No. Everyone loses.
 

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You don't know anything about the US Military. It has plans for everything. If left-handed little blue men from Antares invaded Rhode Island tomorrow, the Pentagon has a plan in some dusty file drawer to deal with it. In the mid-seventies I was involved in war game CPXs (command post exercises) testing out our plans to invade and conquer Saudi Arabia (then a fast friend of the USA).
I guess the plan to withdraw from Afghanistan was on Hillarys server...
 

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And when Russian icbms fall in Europe and in the US, will the US and Europe be wwinners?

No. Everyone loses.

That's right. So it would be smart of Putin to keep the flying dildos in their silos. Because NATO is nuclear with a far larger land mass than Russia's occupiable territory.
 

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and where will you sleep when Russia drops a nuke on your city? this is the most stupid idea ever from the most stupid administration ever, and idiots like you just rave on.

Russia knows better than to nuke anyone
They would be annihilated
 

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On the absurd supposition that the US had any desire to sink any part of the Russian naval fleet, there is absolutely zero chance that such information would be available for some kook “anti war” web reporter site. Libtards choose what to believe, but they do not choose intelligently.
 

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