US and Israel Launch Preemptive Attacks on Iran

[georgephillip]

Baby butchers are your Palestinian animals that committed Oct 7 and even proudly recorded themselves doing it.

On October 7 Hamas struck back against the greedy, racist Jews in Israel who are the source of state-sponsored terror in West Asia:


GoogleAI Overview:

"Arguments Highlighting Israel's Role in Regional Violence

• "State-Sponsored Violence/Terrorism: Countries such as Iran, Syria, Qatar, and others have accused Israel of engaging in state-sponsored terrorism, particularly regarding military actions in Palestine and Lebanon.
• Actions in Gaza: Following the October 7, 2023, attack, Israel’s military response in Gaza has led to high civilian casualties, with reports of over 20,000 Palestinians killed by December 2023, 70% of whom were women and children. This has led to accusations of indiscriminate destruction of civilian infrastructure, including UN buildings and hospitals.
• Settler Violence..."

 

[Ringo]

 

[The Duke]

 

[Ringo]

In Iran, 168 innocent girls are being buried, killed as a result of Israeli strikes on a primary school in Minabe.

Once again: these children were aged 7-12, what threat did they pose to Israel?!
Israel must answer for its war crimes!

 

[JWBooth]

 

[The Duke]

Forever wars were always a choice.

 

[The Duke]

 

[schmidlap]

In Iran, 168 innocent girls are being buried, killed as a result of Israeli strikes on a primary school in Minabe.

Once again: these children were aged 7-12, what threat did they pose to Israel?!
Israel must answer for its war crimes!

Responsibility must be established.

There is the usual irresponsible finger-pointing but, to his credit, not yet by the instigator of the regime-change/nation-building enterprise:

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But the questions surrounding the attack that killed at least 175 people have just begun, as international condemnation and calls for investigations – and accountability – were amplified on March 2​

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The Trump administration has neither ruled out nor admitted responsibility for the attack, which occurred during the opening wave of the U.S.-led operations on Feb. 28.​

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The Pentagon says it is reviewing the incident, but so far it has not publicly committed to a formal investigation, disciplinary action or other accountability measures.​

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[Ringo]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran from 2005 to 2013:

"Americans are too arrogant. We cooperated with them on Afghanistan, then we cooperated in Iraq, and we also accepted what they wanted on the nuclear issue. Then Bush comes along, full of arrogance, and calls Iran the ‘axis of evil’ despite everything we have done."

For many years, Iran has played the role of a “bogeyman” for the Muslim world, just as Russia has done for Europe. This role was assigned to Iran by the US to justify its military presence and influence in the Middle East.

 

[mudwhistle]

Were you in the Navy?
Let's skip that and ask if you have a coin.

The Admiral is a dickhead.

He acts like he has a small penis.

 

[mudwhistle]

TRUMP. IS. A. FUCKUP!

You sit down to pee.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran from 2005 to 2013:

"Americans are too arrogant. We cooperated with them on Afghanistan, then we cooperated in Iraq, and we also accepted what they wanted on the nuclear issue. Then Bush comes along, full of arrogance, and calls Iran the ‘axis of evil’ despite everything we have done."

For many years, Iran has played the role of a “bogeyman” for the Muslim world, just as Russia has done for Europe. This role was assigned to Iran by the US to justify its military presence and influence in the Middle East.

Yeah. By President Carter.

 

[mudwhistle]

Hamas (which Israel created) struck back at the illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine.

Think it won't get worse?

Total BS.

Hamas is a terrorist arm of Iran. Thanks to idiots like President Auto-Pen (Barack H. Obama) which gave Hamas $6 billion in 2023, they were able to fund the attack on Jewish settlements on Oct 7th, 2023. It also didn't help that Biden abandoned Afghanistan and most of the weapons and equipment he left behind ended up in the hands of the Iranians and Hamas.

"Iran has been a primary financial, material, and training patron of Hamas for decades, providing up to $100
million annually to support the group's militant activities against Israel. This alliance, forming part of Iran's "axis of resistance," strengthens Hamas's military capabilities, though the relationship has faced strains, such as in 2012 over the Syrian civil war. While Iran backs Hamas, the U.S. has noted that Tehran did not orchestrate the Oct 7, 2023, attack."

 

[Ringo]

Until recently, to start a war, you had to at least shake a test tube at the UN...
Capitalism is progressing and becoming more efficient, so such procedures are no longer necessary.

 

[schmidlap]

Yeah. By President Carter.

Hyper-partisan diversions aside, Trump still has not concocted a credible, coherent pretense for his regime-change adventurism:

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Trump argued Iran would have "soon" had the capability to reach the American homeland and that "this was our last best chance to strike."​

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"The regime already had missiles capable of hitting Europe and our bases, both local and overseas, and would soon have had missiles capable of reaching our beautiful America," Trump said.​

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American intelligence agencies, however, believe Iran would not have had missiles capable of reaching the U.S. for another nine years, until 2035.​

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And sources confirmed to ABC News that Trump administration officials told congressional staff that U.S. intelligence did not suggest Iran was preparing to launch a preemptive strike against the United States interests.​

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Trump contradicts US intelligence on Iran, doesn't address regime change as before

President Trump on Monday claimed the U.S. was "very nearly under threat" from Iran, contradicting U.S. intelligence assessments.

abcnews.com

 

[Hafar1014]

Hyper-partisan diversions aside, Trump still has not concocted a credible, coherent pretense for his regime-change adventurism:

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Trump argued Iran would have "soon" had the capability to reach the American homeland and that "this was our last best chance to strike."​

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"The regime already had missiles capable of hitting Europe and our bases, both local and overseas, and would soon have had missiles capable of reaching our beautiful America," Trump said.​

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American intelligence agencies, however, believe Iran would not have had missiles capable of reaching the U.S. for another nine years, until 2035.​

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And sources confirmed to ABC News that Trump administration officials told congressional staff that U.S. intelligence did not suggest Iran was preparing to launch a preemptive strike against the United States interests.​

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Trump contradicts US intelligence on Iran, doesn't address regime change as before

President Trump on Monday claimed the U.S. was "very nearly under threat" from Iran, contradicting U.S. intelligence assessments.

abcnews.com

A nuke can be smuggled anywhere in a suitcase or back pack. Try and stop that

 

[georgephillip]

How does it compare to these genocides?

Key Historical Genocide/Mass Killing Estimates

• The Holocaust (1941–1945): Around 6 million Jews and millions of others killed by Nazi Germany.
• Communist Regime Killings: Estimates range from 21 million to 70 million non-combatants in the Soviet Union, China, and Cambodia.
• Armenian Genocide (1915–1923): 1.5 million Ottoman Armenians.
  
  
• Darfur Genocide (2003–present): Estimated 300,000 deaths.
• Algeria (1830s-1870s): 1 million people
• Rwandan Genocide (1994): 1 million people (mostly Tutsi).
• Cambodian Genocide (1975–1979): 1.5–2 million deaths.

What metrics are you using to measure genocide?

GoogleAI Overview:

"Genocide is the deliberate, systematic destruction—in whole or in part—of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

"Coined by Raphael Lemkin in 1944, it is recognized under international law as acts committed with intent to destroy such groups, including killing, causing severe harm, or preventing births."

Racist Israeli Jews are announcing their intentions to destroy in whole or in part the Palestinian population, something they could never achieve without US weapons and diplomatic cover.

Israel’s Admission of Genocide

 

[georgephillip]

It's worth noting that, for unknown reasons, Iran is not using its air defenses to their full potential.

One possible explanation is that Iran is planning to continue hostilities for months, long after Israel and the US have run out of interceptor missiles.

Iran campaign could ’last weeks’ as Israeli forces raid Lebanon

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump bombed the islamic butchers in Syria, Nigeria, and I think someplace else right before Christmas.
And the people were very happy. A bunch of shitheads got taken out.

Well sure.

MAGA and Trump are the new batch of super neocons. Cheney would blush.

 

[ding]

What metrics are you using to measure genocide?

GoogleAI Overview:

"Genocide is the deliberate, systematic destruction—in whole or in part—of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

"Coined by Raphael Lemkin in 1944, it is recognized under international law as acts committed with intent to destroy such groups, including killing, causing severe harm, or preventing births."

Racist Israeli Jews are announcing their intentions to destroy in whole or in part the Palestinian population, something they could never achieve without US weapons and diplomatic cover.

Israel’s Admission of Genocide

So, that's a no? You don't want to compare it to other genocides?