Updating the U.S. Constitution to more appropriately address modern times

[danielpalos]

The First Amendment is already in rapid decay. Once that goes, the rest won't matter.

why do you believe that?

Which part? I make two points there.

the first part.

Ah. As we all know, we've raised a generation of young people to think that, when confronted with opposing views, they are justified in shutting it down. If that doesn't work, they are justified in shouting it down. If that doesn't work, they are justified in running to a safe space and hiding from it.

Enjoying freedom of expression is no longer an assumed privilege of living in the United States of America.
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Platitudes instead of results?

The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government. Franklin D. Roosevelt
Read more at: Franklin D. Roosevelt Quotes

 

[danielpalos]

The second amendment is as archaic as the third amendment....it is no longer relevant in a modern society

Gun rights should be left to the individual states. Much like republicans want healthcare to be

If your state wants to allow you to have machine guns and RPGs....it is their choice
If they want only police officers to have guns....it is their choice

I agree to disagree. Our Founding Fathers were object oriented before the information technology sector discovered the term.

 

[danielpalos]

Only well regulated militia of the whole and entire People, may not be Infringed, regardless of what the unorganized militia and gun lovers, claim.

The right was not limited to militia.

Yes, it was. The People are the militia.

And the people have the right.

The People are the militia.
Well regulated militia of the People, are declared necessary.

The people have the right, militia or not.

The People are the militia.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The right was not limited to militia.

Yes, it was. The People are the militia.

And the people have the right.

The People are the militia.
Well regulated militia of the People, are declared necessary.

The people have the right, militia or not.

The People are the militia.

And the people have the right, not the militia.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, it was. The People are the militia.

And the people have the right.

The People are the militia.
Well regulated militia of the People, are declared necessary.

The people have the right, militia or not.

The People are the militia.

And the people have the right, not the militia.

No, they don't. The People are the Miltie.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And the people have the right.

The People are the militia.
Well regulated militia of the People, are declared necessary.

The people have the right, militia or not.

The People are the militia.

And the people have the right, not the militia.

No, they don't. The People are the Miltie.

Yes, the people have the right, the right is not limited to militia.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Did my time in the regular Army. Punctually speaking a comma means a pause or its used to separate items in a list. Either you choose to ignore the pause/comma in the 2nd Amendment or you failed English in school. If the latter is the case it may not be all your fault, the education system in this country sucks.

The People are the Militia.

They are not a "well regulated militia"

The militia clause was to make sure the individual States could maintain their own armed forces. There was a concern that a strong federal government would usurp the right of the State Governments to call to the colors their own armed forces.

The 2nd part of the 2nd amendment specifically says the people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It is a separate concept from each State's right to call it's own militia.

COTUS Only Protects the Plutocracy


The Constitution doesn't protect your right to have a gun; only your gun protects that natural right. Quit trying to push your elitist COTUS by tricking us into slavery to it "in order to be free."

Constitutionazis are bullies who get an irrational feeling of power out of humiliating the majority with their supremacist propaganda from the 18th Century. A real man tells the Plutes to kiss his glutes. This anti-democratic manifesto was written to protect the totalitarian power of the private sector.

Lol, Wut?

Sorry for waking you up. I understand your confusion, coming from a cozy fantasy world which you desperately hug your pillow to induce. Or are you into drug escapism?

 

[martybegan]

The People are the Militia.

They are not a "well regulated militia"

The militia clause was to make sure the individual States could maintain their own armed forces. There was a concern that a strong federal government would usurp the right of the State Governments to call to the colors their own armed forces.

The 2nd part of the 2nd amendment specifically says the people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It is a separate concept from each State's right to call it's own militia.

COTUS Only Protects the Plutocracy


The Constitution doesn't protect your right to have a gun; only your gun protects that natural right. Quit trying to push your elitist COTUS by tricking us into slavery to it "in order to be free."

Constitutionazis are bullies who get an irrational feeling of power out of humiliating the majority with their supremacist propaganda from the 18th Century. A real man tells the Plutes to kiss his glutes. This anti-democratic manifesto was written to protect the totalitarian power of the private sector.

Lol, Wut?

Sorry for waking you up. I understand your confusion, coming from a cozy fantasy world which you desperately hug your pillow to induce. Or are you into drug escapism?

Oh god, you are one of those "me so more smartz than yoooze" types.

Rights are inherent in all of us, but they are not protected until enshrined in the constitution.

 

[Syriusly]

We need to bring the United States Constitution up to date to make it more relevant to the modern world.

In particular, the Bill of Rights, especially the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments need to be made more compatible with the modern world.

Here is how I would word them:

1st:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of the press. The right of the people peaceably to assemble and disseminate speech that is not hateful or threatening shall not be infringed. The right of oppressed peoples to petition the Government for a redress of grievances shall not be infringed.

2nd:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the military and law enforcement to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The right of private citizens to own firearms designated by the government to be appropriate for antique and/or sporting purposes only shall not be infringed.

4th:
The right of the people who have not been proven to belong to a hateful, discriminatory group or a group that is in ideological opposition to the government to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Absolutely no way I would trust any modern politician with updating the Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

We could not do a better job, today.

 

[Muhammed]

We need to bring the United States Constitution up to date to make it more relevant to the modern world.

In particular, the Bill of Rights, especially the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments need to be made more compatible with the modern world.

Here is how I would word them:

1st:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of the press. The right of the people peaceably to assemble and disseminate speech that is not hateful or threatening shall not be infringed. The right of oppressed people to petition the Government for a redress of grievances shall not be infringed.

2nd:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the military and law enforcement to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The right of private citizens to own non-military arms shall also not be infringed.

4th:
The right of the people who have not been proven to belong to a hateful, discriminatory group or a group that is in ideological opposition to the government to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Go fuck yourself

Well said, Grandpa U!

/thread

 

[danielpalos]

The People are the militia.
Well regulated militia of the People, are declared necessary.

The people have the right, militia or not.

The People are the militia.

And the people have the right, not the militia.

No, they don't. The People are the Miltie.

Yes, the people have the right, the right is not limited to militia.

Yes, it is. The People are the Militia.

 

[dturner1157]

Instead of changing the Constitution, how about the Dems cooperate on fixing the healthcare crisis in this country?

And BTW the Constitution is fine. We just need to enforce the laws on the books. And quit empowering criminal minorities.

 

[PredFan]

We need to bring the United States Constitution up to date to make it more relevant to the modern world.

In particular, the Bill of Rights, especially the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments need to be made more compatible with the modern world.

Here is how I would word them:

1st:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of the press. The right of the people peaceably to assemble and disseminate speech that is not hateful or threatening shall not be infringed. The right of oppressed peoples to petition the Government for a redress of grievances shall not be infringed.

2nd:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the military and law enforcement to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The right of private citizens to own firearms designated by the government to be appropriate for antique and/or sporting purposes only shall not be infringed.

4th:
The right of the people who have not been proven to belong to a hateful, discriminatory group or a group that is in ideological opposition to the government to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Thank God you aren't in charge of anything. You are an idiot.

 

[danielpalos]

Good grief! Did no one here take English in high school? Did you get as far as high school?

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


The Gapping Comma
The gapping comma is very easy. We use a gapping comma to show that one or more words have been left out when the missing words would simply repeat the words already used earlier in the same sentence. Here is an example:

Some Norwegians wanted to base their national language on the speech of the capital city; others, on the speech of the rural countryside.
The gapping comma here shows that the words wanted to base their national language, which might have been repeated, have instead been omitted. This sentence is equivalent to a longer sentence like this:

Some Norwegians wanted to base their national language on the speech of the capital city; others wanted to base it on the speech of the rural countryside.
Here is another example, which contains both listing commas and gapping commas:
Italy is famous for her composers and musicians, France, for her chefs and philosophers, and Poland, for her mathematicians and logicians.
(Here I have inserted a listing comma before and for the sake of clarity.)

Gapping commas are not always strictly necessary: you can leave them out if the sentence is perfectly clear without them:
Italy is famous for her composers and musicians, France for her chefs and philosophers, and Poland for her mathematicians and logicians.
The Gapping Comma : The Comma

In the case of our Constitution, the commas are essential in making the Amendment perfectly clear as it loses meaning without their use.

No, it doesn't. The commas are irrelevant the point being made.

 

[danielpalos]

Instead of changing the Constitution, how about the Dems cooperate on fixing the healthcare crisis in this country?

And BTW the Constitution is fine. We just need to enforce the laws on the books. And quit empowering criminal minorities.

The dems? You stuck on a one way street or something. It was the republicans who had, nothing but repeal.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The people have the right, militia or not.

The People are the militia.

And the people have the right, not the militia.

No, they don't. The People are the Miltie.

Yes, the people have the right, the right is not limited to militia.

Yes, it is. The People are the Militia.

The right is not limited to the militia.

 

[danielpalos]

The People are the militia.

And the people have the right, not the militia.

No, they don't. The People are the Miltie.

Yes, the people have the right, the right is not limited to militia.

Yes, it is. The People are the Militia.

The right is not limited to the militia.

Yes, it is. The People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or not.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And the people have the right, not the militia.

No, they don't. The People are the Miltie.

Yes, the people have the right, the right is not limited to militia.

Yes, it is. The People are the Militia.

The right is not limited to the militia.

Yes, it is. The People are the Militia. You are either, well regulated or not.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Yes, it is.

No it isn't.
That's why is says, right of the people, not right of the militia.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We need to bring the United States Constitution up to date to make it more relevant to the modern world.

In particular, the Bill of Rights, especially the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments need to be made more compatible with the modern world.

Here is how I would word them:

1st:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of the press. The right of the people peaceably to assemble and disseminate speech that is not hateful or threatening shall not be infringed. The right of oppressed peoples to petition the Government for a redress of grievances shall not be infringed.

2nd:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the military and law enforcement to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The right of private citizens to own firearms designated by the government to be appropriate for antique and/or sporting purposes only shall not be infringed.

4th:
The right of the people who have not been proven to belong to a hateful, discriminatory group or a group that is in ideological opposition to the government to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I wish you enormous amounts of luck getting enough people to vote for that crap.