UPDATE: Eric Trump Says Mar-a-Lago Security Cameras Captured FBI Agents Behaving Improperly

[BackAgain]

And it’s more than reasonable for us to say he’s full of shit because he has the ability to prove his allegations but chooses not to.

No. That’s unreasonable.

If you’ve got the goods, you also get to decide when is the most advantageous time to lower the boom.

Your petty whining doesn’t change that fact. It irritates you that you don’t get to call the shots. Lol. Tough luck. Sucks to be you.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

No. If you claim somebody did something wrong, they can deny it if they want, but you have to prove it, or else you are just making an unproven claim. If you have a claim and are simply unwilling to prove it, it is probably a bullshit claim and any jury or observer can make up their mind about your claim, taking into account you are unwilling to back your claim with proof. Everybody knows that, and like I said, I am no lawyer and don't even play one on TV.

That's so oversimplified that it lacks any semblance of perspective for who is making "a claim" vis-a-vis the burden of proof in criminal jurisprudence. The government alone carries the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the crime(s) charged. The defendant is not required to prove anything, he may instead advance any number of legal strategies or categories of circumstantial evidence that raise doubt sufficient to thwart the government's ability to carry it's heavy burden. The OJ trial is one high profile case that featured many famous examples of this.

 

[Marener]

No. That’s unreasonable.

If you’ve got the goods, you also get to decide when is the most advantageous time to lower the boom.

Your petty whining doesn’t change that fact. It irritates you that you don’t get to call the shots. Lol. Tough luck. Sucks to be you.

It’s perfectly reasonable.

If someone makes an allegation but refuses to provide proof which they possess, then it’s immediately suspect to any reasonable perso.

You aren’t reasonable.

 

[Marener]

I'm sure we'll be seeing snippets of the video in the weeks and months to come.

The idea isn't to let everything out of the bag immediately, but to hold it back until the video can make the biggest impact on the election cycle.

Hilarious. Someone still has faith that these losers ever follow through.

 

[BackAgain]

It’s perfectly reasonable.

No. It’s not. Repeating your ignorant claim doesn’t support it.

If someone makes an allegation but refuses to provide proof which they possess, then it’s immediately suspect to any reasonable perso.

Nope. You are just Chaffed that you don’t get to decide. Nevertheless, to folks who (unlike you) are actually reasonable, making the most of what you have can include decisions on the timing of disclosure. Isn’t it great? It is great. Go ahead. Admit it.

You aren’t reasonable.

Sorry bubbala. But it is you who has shown himself/herself/itself to be unreasonable.

 

[Marener]

No. It’s not. Repeating your ignorant claim doesn’t support it.

Nope. You are just Chaffed that you don’t get to decide. Nevertheless, to folks who (unlike you) are actually reasonable, making the most of what you have can include decisions on the timing of disclosure. Isn’t it great? It is great. Go ahead. Admit it.

Sorry bubbala. But it is you who has shown himself/herself/itself to be unreasonable.

Saying “no it’s not” doesn’t support your claim. I provided a rational. You’ve provided nothing.

Anyone who takes Trump or his progeny at their word is a fool.

 

[BackAgain]

Saying “no it’s not” doesn’t support your claim. I provided a rational.

You provided a lame ass whine.

You’ve provided nothing.

Wrong. I refuted your lame ass whine. For, you see, even though it makes you bleed, the fact remains that the person with the goods is free to unilaterally decide when it is best put to use. Not you.

Anyone who takes Trump or his progeny at their word is a fool.

Anyone who comes to you for advice or sage words of wisdom is a fool and hopelessly misguided.

 

[AntonToo]

Eric Trump said

Thread should end there. It really is that frivolous.

Trumps need to put up the WARRANT, THAT THEY HAVE and this VIDEO THAT THEY HAVE or just STFU already.

All these assholes are doing is whipping up gullible rightwingers to squeeze whatever political juice they can out of their legal lemons.

 

[Marener]

You provided a lame ass whine.

Wrong. I refuted your lame ass whine. For, you see, even though it makes you bleed, the fact remains that the person with the goods is free to unilaterally decide when it is best put to use. Not you.

Anyone who comes to you for advice or sage words of wisdom is a fool and hopelessly misguided.

It wasn’t a question about freedom. You didn’t provide a rationale, you merely shifted the question. It’s dishonest.

People like you are easy targets for people like Trump.

 

[BackAgain]

It wasn’t a question about freedom. You didn’t provide a rationale, you merely shifted the question. It’s dishonest.

It wasn’t a question at all. You simply made a claim. It was regarded of you. You remain entirely dishonest.

People like you are easy targets for people like Trump.

People like you vote for senile old racist scum. Plus, of course, people like you are unable to defend their own positions. As you’ve demonstrated clearly.

 

[Marener]

It wasn’t a question at all. You simply made a claim. It was regarded of you. You remain entirely dishonest.

People like you vote for senile old racist scum. Plus, of course, people like you are unable to defend their own positions. As you’ve demonstrated clearly.

I did defend my position. You didn’t. You defended a different and unrelated position that was not up for debate.

It’s dishonest and weak.

 

[BackAgain]

I did defend my position. You didn’t. You defended a different and unrelated position that was not up for debate.

It’s dishonest and weak.

You are babbling in circles now.

The reality is that you stand refuted.

Go cry about it.

 

[White 6]

Why are you simply making shit up? The lawyers who were there were not even employed by Trump during the election debacle. Why don't you just STFU until you find some facts, and stop spouting your fucking ridiculous assertions also known as lies?

That is foolish. Of course they represented the Trump campaign, and were not contradicted by the campaign. Nobody telling lies here, just because you disagree. Your standards are questionable, to say the least.

 

[White 6]

Then when he does and Americans who still believe in the rule of law react in outrage, Trump will be blamed and another count will be added to his next impeachment.

There will be no "next impeachment", as his day in the big chair is over.

 

[White 6]

That's so oversimplified that it lacks any semblance of perspective for who is making "a claim" vis-a-vis the burden of proof in criminal jurisprudence. The government alone carries the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the crime(s) charged. The defendant is not required to prove anything, he may instead advance any number of legal strategies or categories of circumstantial evidence that raise doubt sufficient to thwart the government's ability to carry it's heavy burden. The OJ trial is one high profile case that featured many famous examples of this.

No. The government is only responsible to prove it's claims, as they too are innocent until proven guilty, and the private claimant will have to make his case or the claim will not be proven.

 

[skye]

It was improper for them to be there at all, but this just gets better & better.

You'd think these swamp assholes would know better than to fuck with Trump by now, but they just don't get it.

Peops gonna get fired.

I agree with all that!

 

[BackAgain]

Thread should end there. It really is that frivolous.

Trumps need to put up the WARRANT, THAT THEY HAVE and this VIDEO THAT THEY HAVE or just STFU already.

All these assholes are doing is whipping up gullible rightwingers to squeeze whatever political juice they can out of their legal lemons.

No such need. He cannot ignore the courts seal. And he is free to decide when he reveals the videos. Nobody “needs” to bust a move (to his own disadvantage) just to placate you.

 

[justaschmuck9]

Eric Trump said that the security cameras at Mar-a-Lago caught FBI agents behaving improperly during Monday’s raid, alleging that investigators were accessing parts of former President Donald Trump’s Florida residence that they “shouldn’t have been.”

In an interview with DailyMail.com, Eric Trump said that because staff refused to turn off the surveillance cameras at the request of the FBI, the Mar-a-Lago cameras captured agents raiding areas that they weren’t authorized to.


So the staff did not turn off the cameras! Good on them!

UPDATE: Eric Trump Says Mar-a-Lago Security Cameras Captured FBI Agents Behaving Improperly | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

President Trump’s home was raided on Monday by Joe Biden and his lawless regime.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

YES!

I'm surprised the fbi didn't force the issue, ie make sure they were turned off.

not too smart but hey...

we're thankful

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Any search warrant requires a representative of the plaintiff to be present to guard against improper procedures. Like planting evidence. The FBI was careful to remove EVERYONE affiliated with Trump, lawyers, waitstaff, random passers by. A closed warrant. Because...they say so. This is tantamount to illegal search and seizure no matter WHO or WHAT party is involved. It is illegal, no matter your political party.

Kind of seems odd they not only wanted no witnesses but for the video to be shut off too. That just screams legitimate doesn’t it.

 

[Who_Me?]

Eric Trump said that the security cameras at Mar-a-Lago caught FBI agents behaving improperly during Monday’s raid, alleging that investigators were accessing parts of former President Donald Trump’s Florida residence that they “shouldn’t have been.”

In an interview with DailyMail.com, Eric Trump said that because staff refused to turn off the surveillance cameras at the request of the FBI, the Mar-a-Lago cameras captured agents raiding areas that they weren’t authorized to.


So the staff did not turn off the cameras! Good on them!

UPDATE: Eric Trump Says Mar-a-Lago Security Cameras Captured FBI Agents Behaving Improperly | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

President Trump’s home was raided on Monday by Joe Biden and his lawless regime.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

The feds had a search warrant. All of Trump's Mar-a-Lago is fair game.