Unprecedented SSTs strike Florida's coral reefs

[Crick]

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Coral Reefs on Earth are absolutely fine unless they are squirted with chemical bleach...

You are A.COMPLETE.FUCKING.IDIOT

 

[fncceo]

LOL....Never been bleached before.

I have... but only my starfish... never my reef.

 

[EMH]

You are A.COMPLETE.FUCKING.IDIOT

Your side lied about bleaching coral 20 years ago. It is pulling out all the stops now.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have... but only my starfish... never my reef.

TMI

 

[Flopper]

You are a huge fucking liar.

You were probably the one the Co2 fraud paid to go squirt that bleach...

There you go again turning to insults because can’t offer any reasonable rebuttal.

 

[EMH]

There you go again turning to insults because can’t offer any reasonable rebuttal.

Documented TRUTH


The Co2 FRAUD misdiagnoses coral bleaching 20 years ago, when it was really bleach and cyanide. Thailand outlawed both plus some sun tan products.

Desperate for "evidence" of "ocean warming" since oceans are neither warming nor rising, the ol' coral bleaching fraud is trotted out....

 

[ding]

There you go again turning to insults because can’t offer any reasonable rebuttal.

He’s a troll.

 

[Flopper]

Translation

Coral Reefs on Earth are absolutely fine unless they are squirted with chemical bleach...

The idea of putting bleach on a coral reef to kill it is nonsense. Yes, you can take a piece of live coral throw it in a bucket of bleach and it will kill the polyps and algae . Florida Coral reefs typically run 6 to 60 feet deep but in some places much deeper. Killing a large section of coral reef with bleach would be a huge project and might even be impossible because ocean currents and wave action would rapidly dilute the bleach.

Most pictures we see of coral reefs are closeups of coral and fish which make the reefs
look very small. The Florida Coral Reef system stretches from the the Dry Tortugas to Key west north up the Atlantic coast of the Keys over 320 miles with hundreds of reefs, covering over 300,000 acres.

This is Molasses Reef in John Penkyamp State Park which I have dived and snorkeled many times. It begins about 6 miles off shore and covers approximately 6 nautical miles. Wave action and strong currents would make it impossible to kill the coral with bleach.

In Indonesia and Thailand there are many beech areas with shallow tide pools where coral reef fish are trapped. Fishermen who catch reef fish for sale to collectors would dump bleach in these pools which stunned the fish making them easy to catch. Fresh seawater would revive about about a quarter to a half of those caught. The live fish were sold to exporters for shipment all over the world in retail shops. The effects of bleach damages interior organs and will kill most of these fish within a few weeks Buyers soon learned of this practice which lead to outlawing it. Also dealers began holding the fish several weeks before selling them. The cost of coral reef fish range from about $20 to $30,000 and many will not survive in tanks for more than a few months.

Moorish Idol $45

Peppermint Angel Fish $30,000

 

[Flopper]

He’s a troll.

Agreed. One thing we need to acknowledge is that all coral reefs are not in danger. Just the shallow reefs that exist from about 6 to 60 feet. These are the reefs that help protect our coastline. They are also the ones that are among the most biologically diverse and valuable ecosystems on Earth. An estimated 25 percent of all marine life, including over 4,000 species of fish, are dependent on coral reefs at some point in their life cycle.

We have learned there are some types of shallow water coral that tolerate heat better than others. One group is studying the idea of seeding reefs with this type of coral.

Deep water reefs which get much less sunlight are much cooler than shallow reefs. They are also important to a number of tradition deep water fish. We don't have to worry about them because by the time global warming kills these reefs, no one is going to be around to witness it.

 

[EMH]

Wave action and strong currents would make it impossible to kill the coral with bleach

bullshit


The objective is to change the color and blame Co2 for it.


Thai has banned bleach, cyanide, and certain sun tan products in response to what the Co2 FRAUD blamed on "warming" that does not exist.

there are some types of shallow water coral that tolerate heat better than others

Put coral in 110F water and absolutely nothing happens.

 

[Flopper]

bullshit


The objective is to change the color and blame Co2 for it.


Thai has banned bleach, cyanide, and certain sun tan products in response to what the Co2 FRAUD blamed on "warming" that does not exist.







Put coral in 110F water and absolutely nothing happens.

Marine biologists and hundreds of volunteers who are collecting samples of the most endangered and rare types of coral in order to save them are secretly dumping thousands of gallons of bleach to destroy the reef.

 

[jc456]

Maybe, but we're still proceeding towards doomsday.

When?

 

[jc456]

Current ocean water temperature in Florida

Water temperature in Florida today and monthly. Surf Report and Surf Forecast for cities and resorts in Florida. Weather and time of sunrise / sunset

seatemperature.info

 

[Flopper]

bullshit


The objective is to change the color and blame Co2 for it.


Thai has banned bleach, cyanide, and certain sun tan products in response to what the Co2 FRAUD blamed on "warming" that does not exist.







Put coral in 110F water and absolutely nothing happens.

For maybe a couple hours. No coral polyps we survive for long periods in 110 degree water. Some species will survive a few weeks of 100 degrees while other will start dying within days. Most coral above 86 degrees will begin to shed, that is releasing algae which is the beginning of bleaching. The higher the temperature and the longer the high temperature last the more bleaching. It usually takes months for the reef to completely die and many months or years for coral to become white. Whether it actually becomes white depending on sunlight, ocean currents, and clarity of the water.

After a few years most dead reef will start looking like this. Without the polyps, most of the reef fish will not survive. The polyp skeleton will add to centuries of skeletons that become calcium carbonate which will be taken over by algae, effectively blocking any new coral regrowth. Then Eventually, the coral skeletons will erode, causing the reef structure to collapse. Notice the lack of fish. Typically, the fish will begin deserting the reef as it dies.

 

[EMH]

For maybe a couple hours. No coral polyps we survive for long periods in 110 degree water. Some species will survive a few weeks of 100 degrees while other will start dying within days. Most coral above 86 degrees will begin to shed, that is releasing algae which is the beginning of bleaching. The higher the temperature and the longer the high temperature last the more bleaching. It usually takes months for the reef to completely die and many months or years for coral to become white. Whether it actually becomes white depending on sunlight, ocean currents, and clarity of the water.
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After a few years most dead reef will start looking like this. Without the polyps, most of the reef fish will not survive. The polyp skeleton will add to centuries of skeletons that become calcium carbonate which will be taken over by algae, effectively blocking any new coral regrowth. Then Eventually, the coral skeletons will erode, causing the reef structure to collapse. Notice the lack of fish. Typically, the fish will begin deserting the reef as it dies.

Every year since humans have walked on Earth there has been water above 86F. Only recently is coral "bleaching," and the Thais figured out what was causing that - ACTUAL BLEACH.....


CLOROX....

 

[EMH]

Marine biologists and hundreds of volunteers who are collecting samples of the most endangered and rare types of coral in order to save them are secretly dumping thousands of gallons of bleach to destroy the reef.

The Co2 fraud has NOTHING except MONEY. To keep its fraud going, it will murder coral and lie about why....

 

[jc456]

For maybe a couple hours. No coral polyps we survive for long periods in 110 degree water. Some species will survive a few weeks of 100 degrees while other will start dying within days. Most coral above 86 degrees will begin to shed, that is releasing algae which is the beginning of bleaching. The higher the temperature and the longer the high temperature last the more bleaching. It usually takes months for the reef to completely die and many months or years for coral to become white. Whether it actually becomes white depending on sunlight, ocean currents, and clarity of the water.
View attachment 814507


After a few years most dead reef will start looking like this. Without the polyps, most of the reef fish will not survive. The polyp skeleton will add to centuries of skeletons that become calcium carbonate which will be taken over by algae, effectively blocking any new coral regrowth. Then Eventually, the coral skeletons will erode, causing the reef structure to collapse. Notice the lack of fish. Typically, the fish will begin deserting the reef as it dies.

I posted the temperatures, nothing over 100! Oops

 

[Flopper]

Every year since humans have walked on Earth there has been water above 86F. Only recently is coral "bleaching," and the Thais figured out what was causing that - ACTUAL BLEACH.....


CLOROX....

Two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef(88,000 sq. miles) ravaged by coral bleaching. Must have been a really big bottle of bleach.​

 

[EMH]

Two-thirds of Great Barrier Reef(88,000 sq. miles) ravaged by coral bleaching. Must have been a really big bottle bleach.​

The vast majority of the Earth's coral is 100% fine. ALL of the coral that is relatively isolated from humans is completely fine. Only coral that has humans around it a lot has suffered the consequences, all in oceans NOT WARMING AT ALL.

 

[Flopper]

The vast majority of the Earth's coral is 100% fine. ALL of the coral that is relatively isolated from humans is completely fine. Only coral that has humans around it a lot has suffered the consequences, all in oceans NOT WARMING AT ALL.

Since, I don't debate global warming, nor the existence of gravity, or that the earth is round, there will be no meeting of minds which makes this discussion rather pointless.

Unlike you I see both sides of the issue. Most of the coral on earth is deep sea coral which is found at a depth of 200 to 10,000 feet. It is basically a cold water coral which is not likely to be effected by global warming at least not any time soon.

The devastation of shallow water coral, which really is critical to long term viability of marine life has been going on for over a century due to pollution and destruction of the reefs. Global warming is making the problem far worst. We know without a doubt the temperature ranges the various species of coral can tolerate and we know the temperatures of the waters where the coral is dying. It ain't rocket science.