"Unity"

[ThisIsMe]

As I have said many times, (1) it's not about Trump, and (2) my issues with Trumpism are sociological, not political.

And my actual positions on the actual issues are in a link in my sig: Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

Those who try to paint me as a leftist are lying. But I'm used to that here.

I know, it's just hard to look past your daily trashing of republicans. You fit so well with the democrats, it's hard to tell the difference.

 

[Mac1958]

I know, it's just hard to look past your daily trashing of republicans. You fit so well with the democrats, it's hard to tell the difference.

I'm sure it is.

Not my problem.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The question this thread poses requires independent, original thought and the ability to organize thoughts in a coherent manner. MAGA media doesn't cover this, so there's nothing to reference for help. That was done on purpose. But so far, we've just seen mostly the standard deflection, off-topic talking points and personal insults.

This is the concerning part of this whole ugly period. While I agree, to at least some degree, on many issues, this "movement" is based on emotion, not logic & reason. If that's the way it's implemented going forward, it will be unstable and temporary -- unless we devolve into a pure authoritarian autocracy in the next four years. Many seem to want that.

Here's an example. Leftys aren't giving answers either, yet you trash the right for not giving you the answers you want.

See what I mean? You appear to be might cozy with the lefty camp...

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'm sure it is.

Not my problem.

It kinda is, if you keep saying you are not a lefty, but you continue to do lefty things.....

By the way, I gave you an answer in post 237....

 

[petro]

235 posts into this thread, and we still haven't gotten to the questions I asked.

First of all, I'm not advocating for unity. I specifically said, in the OP, "Personally, given this country's present condition, I thought it was dumb when Biden tried to use it when he was first elected. We're just not close enough to it to even discuss it right now." So maybe we can get past that. "Unity" is not even a possibility right now, okay? We're clearly closer to the OPPOSITE.

Second, what I actually would like to know is, since "unity" is not even a consideration, and now that MAGA has this much control and power, what would MAGA like to see in terms of new economic & cultural laws, requirements, changes and legislation that you think would guide this country in the direction you want it to go? You have the ability to cram a lot of your agenda down the throats of half the country (as opposed to collaborating and innovating new ideas for more people), and I'd like to know what you'd REALLY and realistically like to see.

I sure hope I've made this clear now. Maybe, maybe not.

No one is required to answer your thread in the way you desire.
You don't like the responses?


Not our problem.

 

[j-mac]

There's another current thread that uses the term "unity" but under a different context. So rather than derail that one, let's try one that is specific to the term itself.

In that thread and pretty much all threads here, the term "unity" is scoffed at and mocked. No surprise. Personally, given this country's present condition, I thought it was dumb when Biden tried to use it when he was first elected. We're just not close enough to it to even discuss it right now.

Anyway, here's what I'm wondering: Since so many here are pretty much on the other side of the fence from unity, what would "disunity" look like to you? My guess is that you want to "beat" the other side and impose your will on them (with specific laws and legislation, I guess) going forward. Is that correct?

So can anyone here go into detail on what "anti-unity" would look like, in practice, on a day-to-day basis? Think out of the box and lay it out. What is the goal here?

Americans Agree Nation Is Divided on Key Values

Eight in 10 Americans, a new high, perceive the U.S. as being greatly divided on the most important values.

news.gallup.com

All one has to do is read your posting history to understand “disunity”…

 

[ThisIsMe]

Disunity is what we currently have. Short of just outright running the cotus through a shredder, I'm not sure how much further apart we could be, politically. Civilly, we're getting further apart every day.

ALL of this because we got away from the original intent of the cotus. If we had just stuck to what it says, we'd have not let the government get so big, allowed to do so many things. The reason we disagree on so much is because we let the federal government do so many things it was never intended to do.

So, if you are looking for an explanation of disunity would look like, it's already here.

 

[Curried Goats]

Disunity is what we currently have. Short of just outright running the cotus through a shredder, I'm not sure how much further apart we could be, politically. Civilly, we're getting further apart every day.

ALL of this because we got away from the original intent of the cotus. If we had just stuck to what it says, we'd have not let the government get so big, allowed to do so many things. The reason we disagree on so much is because we let the federal government do so many things it was never intended to do.

So, if you are looking for an explanation of disunity would look like, it's already here.

The original Constitution allowed for human chattel slavery of men, women and children. Why do you frail fuckers fantasize about it like some inherently restrictive document? It and the men who wrote it were happy to use the power of government and society to restrict freedom and rights in people they didn't find deserving of them.

 

[Mac-7]

Who am I war mongering against exactly?

America

 

[Curried Goats]

America

Is that a race? Do you imagine you speak for America? Last I checked I was as American as anybody else.

 

[Mac-7]

Is that a race? Do you imagine you speak for America? Last I checked I was as American as anybody else.

When you nurture hate against 60% of the people that is an an attack on the whole country

 

[Curried Goats]

When you nurture hate against 60% of the people yhst is an an attack on the whole country

Only if you're a frail fucker who feels attacked by speech and opinion. Are you that frail fucker Mac?

 

[Mac-7]

Only if you're a frail fucker who feels attacked by speech and opinion. Are you that frail fucker Mac?

I am, and so are you because you are very sensitive to criticism yourself

 

[j-mac]

They don't even understand the question.

It’s not that, rather the absurdity of you pondering unity is off the charts….

You don’t answer any opposing views honestly

You take every opportunity to talk about your opponents rather than to them.

Your posting style is dripping with disdain and contempt for anyone that opposes you.

Your posts are devoid of ideas, and full of derision…

Your just not a credible person to ask a question like this….

 

[JohnDB]

Tim Poole was absolutely working directly for Russian Television. He didn't know it himself...maybe. but his constant pro Russian rhetoric and anti American rhetoric should have been a clue that his large paychecks were not just from his followers.

So....
The Daily Wire has now bought his failing show and hired him (and some of his crew) while firing another cute little girl with all the followers.

Meanwhile Fox News has purchased the Daily Wire....which means Disney now owns all of them.

This is so going to work out. NOT

 

[Curried Goats]

I am, and so are you because you are very sensitive to criticism yourself

Just because you imagine it Mac doesn't actually make it so. You're the only one here admitting to feeling assaulted by words. I only ever find you mother fuckers amusing.

 

[Lesh]

Unity comes from the word to unify... you must unify before we can have unity... and you dems have been unwilling to reunify for decades now... every derogatory thing you say about Trump you said about Bush... now that you got your asses kicked you want to unify??? good luck...

Wait. Now Bush was good? I thought you MAGA types hated him

 

[Mac-7]

Just because you imagine it Mac doesn't actually make it so.

I can say the same to you

Your hatred of white people is misplaced

 

[Curried Goats]

I can say the same go you

Your hatred of white people is misplaced

I don't have any hatred for white people. In fact I've praised white Germans in this thread for their handling of their responsibility for the holocaust and for providing reparations to their victims. What I express here isn't hatred for you but amusement in the lengths to which you frail whites here in America go to either pretend racial and economic discrimination wasn't a thing and/or that Black Americans have received socio-economic justice on for all the injustice. That to me is laughable. I don't feel assaulted by it Mac, I'm not a little bitch like you are but I do find it funny.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't have any hatred for white people. In fact I've praised white Germans in this thread for their handling of their responsibility for the holocaust and for providing reparations to their victims. What I express here isn't hatred for you but amusement in the lengths to which you frail whites here in America go to either pretend racial and economic discrimination wasn't a thing and/or that Black Americans have received socio-economic justice on for all the injustice. That to me is laughable. I don't feel assaulted by it Mac, I'm not a little bitch like you are but I do find it funny.

Of course you like white libs who give you free shoe shines

Who wouldnt?

They accept all the blame for black failure