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[Nostra]

You claimed Obama didn't do police reform

Nope. You are lying again.

I told you to go fetch them.

Actually you're lying. You never told me to fetch anything in this thread.

And every time you asked me to fetch something in other threads, I gladly provided you with the full links.

And then you ran away.

Yes I did..........my exact words:

Link us up to these police reforms of Barry's.

And I didn't run away...........I used your link to prove you lied.

 

[meaner gene]

The Origination Clause, sometimes called the Revenue Clause, is Article I, Section 7, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution. This clause says that all bills for raising revenue must start in the House of Representatives,

Revenue bills aka TAX bills start in the house.

Show us where the constitution requires SPENDING bills have to start in the house?

 

[bripat9643]

On this map, NY is far from the lowest.

COVID-19 Death Rate Among Residents of Nursing Homes & Assisted Living Facilities

View attachment 359257

View attachment 359256

New York is below the mean.

The chart shows that only 4 other states have a higher rate.

 

[bripat9643]

I wasn't talking about COVID deaths. Blaming Trump for any of these deaths is about the same as blaming him for aging.

I was talking flu deaths under Trump, and it's past 400,000 by this point. Yet you claimed 150,000, that's INSANITY.

flu deaths for 2017-2018 are 80,000. Deaths for the three other winters under his administration are considerably lower.

Can't you do simple math?

 

[Nostra]

You claimed Trump got rid of them.

From your link:

Do you have a reading comprehension problem.

You asked what reforms Obama put in. I listed them. Trump hasn't done anything like this, and we need to do a lot more.

No reading problems for me.

Here is your post where you lied about Trump getting rid of them.

Exactly what did Trump do to cause the Dimwinger riots?

He didn't follow up on the Police Reforms started by Obama. In fact, he dropped all the consent decrees reached with major cities to clean up their cops.

TRUMP RIOTS. He owns them.

 

[Nostra]

Cuomo probably did it deliberately.

New York is 46th in nursing home death percentage.

New York in new cases and new deaths is among the lowest in the nation.

Facts are not your friend. They make you look like an idiot.

New York is #1 in total deaths. It's not even close.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes, it starts in the House.

Who is the final person to sign it and make it official? Is it the Speaker of the House?

It can also be amended by the senate

Regrettably, this clause has had little effect in practice as the Senate has construed its power to amend so broadly as to replace the entire text of revenue bills that had originated in the House.

Hands Off My Purse! Why Money Bills Originate in the House

Legislative checks and balances is one of the key inventions that convinced Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 9 that the cause of liberty was not lost, in spite of the failure of previous republics throughout the ages. According to the Framers, powers ought not only to be distributed between...

www.heritage.org

 

[Nostra]

Cuomo probably did it deliberately.

New York is 46th in nursing home death percentage.

New York in new cases and new deaths is among the lowest in the nation.

Facts are not your friend. They make you look like an idiot.

New York in new cases and new deaths is among the lowest in the nation.

Really? Looks like Cuomo is back to being #1 in New Deaths..........



Coronavirus (COVID-19) U.S. Deaths



RCP Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

State	Deaths	Deaths / 1M pop	New Deaths	Tests	Estimated Cases	Confirmed Cases	Confirmed Case Fatality Rate	Confirmed Cases / 1M pop	Seasonal Flu Deaths1 (CDC 10-Year Avg)
	130,034	-	-	-	-	2,861,722	-	-	-
New York	32,215	1,656.0	+24	4,170,388	-	421,414	7.64%	21,662.6	3,408
New Jersey	15,250	1,716.9	+17	1,508,548	-	176,637	8.63%	19,886.6	944
Massachusetts	8,149	1,172.6	-	946,978	-	109,628	7.43%	15,774.9	1,050
Illinois	7,215	569.4	-	1,700,635	-	146,872	4.91%	11,590.4	1,771
Pennsylvania	6,800	531.2	+3	817,152	-	93,620	7.26%	7,312.9	1,986
California	6,314	159.8	-	4,553,031	-	254,745	2.48%	6,447.2	4,701
Michigan	6,218	622.6	+3	1,318,729	-	72,581	8.57%	7,267.7	1,310
Connecticut	4,335	1,215.9	-	497,693	-	46,717	9.28%	13,103.3	485
Florida	3,703	172.4	+17	2,148,327	-	190,052	1.95%	8,848.8	1,907
Louisiana	3,283	706.2	-	784,124	-	63,289	5.19%	13,614.1	620
Maryland	3,236	535.3	+13	704,450	-	69,341	4.67%	11,469.5	754
Ohio	2,933	250.9	+1	844,675	-	56,481	5.19%	4,831.9	1,689
Georgia	2,856	269.0	-	1,065,629	-	90,493	3.16%	8,523.1	1,094
Indiana	2,687	399.1	+6	512,288	-	47,432	5.66%	7,045.5	827
Texas	2,621	90.4	-	2,273,591	-	190,387	1.38%	6,566.0	2,413
Virginia	1,849	216.6	+4	772,555	-	65,109	2.84%	7,628.0	986
Arizona	1,805	248.0	+17	755,768	-	94,553	1.91%	12,990.3	655
Colorado	1,701	295.4	-	337,391	-	33,612	5.06%	5,836.7	470
Minnesota	1,503	266.5	-	645,172	-	37,624	3.99%	6,671.4	511
North Carolina	1,420	135.4	-	1,018,296	-	71,654	1.98%	6,831.9	1,430
Washington	1,352	177.5	-	599,975	-	35,641	3.79%	4,680.4	607
Mississippi	1,107	372.0	+4	322,221	-	30,674	3.61%	10,306.6	525
Missouri	1,071	174.5	-	450,038	-	23,717	4.52%	3,864.3	964
Alabama	1,007	205.4	+1	430,128	-	42,862	2.35%	8,741.7	763
Rhode Island	960	906.2	-	250,954	-	16,991	5.65%	16,038.9	150
South Carolina	813	157.9	+20	450,482	-	43,386	1.87%	8,426.6	575
Wisconsin	796	136.7	-	603,870	-	30,317	2.63%	5,206.9	762
Iowa	721	228.5	-	328,128	-	30,938	2.33%	9,805.8	487
Tennessee	633	92.6	-	862,121	-	48,712	1.30%	7,128.8	1,144
Kentucky	585	130.9	-	430,071	-	16,376	3.57%	3,665.4	707
District of Columbia	557	789.2	+2	102,809	-	10,447	5.33%	14,802.7	60
Nevada	530	172.1	+2	363,432	-	21,575	2.46%	7,004.5	405
Delaware	512	525.8	-	118,343	-	11,996	4.27%	12,319.2	110
New Mexico	511	243.7	-	363,374	-	12,776	4.00%	6,093.0	260
Oklahoma	398	100.6	-	355,200	-	15,645	2.54%	3,953.8	555
New Hampshire	376	276.5	-	143,806	-	5,857	6.42%	4,307.5	166
Arkansas	286	94.8	+5	338,893	-	23,209	1.23%	7,690.6	528
Nebraska	284	146.8	-	187,808	-	19,660	1.44%	10,163.3	256
Kansas	282	96.8	-	191,561	-	16,005	1.76%	5,493.7	466
Oregon	209	49.6	-	254,732	-	9,636	2.17%	2,284.6	370
Utah	181	56.5	-	366,716	-	24,542	0.74%	7,655.1	277
Puerto Rico	155	48.5	+1	359,473	-	7,787	1.99%	2,438.2	730
Maine	107	79.6	+2	113,260	-	3,397	3.15%	2,527.1	207
South Dakota	97	109.6	-	82,993	-	6,978	1.39%	7,887.8	143
West Virginia	94	52.6	+1	181,324	-	3,141	2.99%	1,757.5	343
Idaho	93	51.9	-	100,474	-	6,994	1.33%	3,902.8	170
North Dakota	80	105.0	-	111,928	-	3,779	2.12%	4,958.9	107
Vermont	56	89.7	-	69,397	-	1,238	4.52%	1,984.0	57
Montana	23	21.5	-	98,950	-	1,167	1.97%	1,091.9	132
Wyoming	20	34.6	-	47,932	-	1,606	1.25%	2,774.9	85
Hawaii	19	13.4	-	98,278	-	975	1.95%	688.6	301
Alaska	15	20.5	-	120,208	-	1,063	1.41%	1,453.1	43
Data Sources: WHO, CDC, ECDC, NHC, DXY, JHU, RCP | Population: U.S. Census | Seasonal Flu 1: CDC 2008–2018 10-Year Avg

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

 

[meaner gene]

New York is below the mean.

The chart shows that only 4 other states have a higher rate.

Math isn't your strong suit. Look at the distribution, it puts New York below the MEAN.

 

[Nostra]

The Origination Clause, sometimes called the Revenue Clause, is Article I, Section 7, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution. This clause says that all bills for raising revenue must start in the House of Representatives,

Revenue bills aka TAX bills start in the house.

Show us where the constitution requires SPENDING bills have to start in the house?

Power of the Purse



“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1

“No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7
Congress—and in particular, the House of Representatives—is invested with the “power of the purse,” the ability to tax and spend public money for the national government.

Power of the Purse | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.”— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1“No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law...

history.house.gov

 

[bripat9643]

New York is below the mean.

The chart shows that only 4 other states have a higher rate.

Math isn't your strong suit. Look at the distribution, it puts New York below the MEAN.

What "distribution?" The map I posted shows that only 4 other states had a higher death rate. How can NY be below the mean if that's the case?

 

[Mac1958]

So average flu deaths 40K, COVID deaths so far 130K, even with a lockdown.

And this is no big deal?

Holy crap.

 

[meaner gene]

flu deaths for 2017-2018 are 80,000. Deaths for the three other winters under his administration are considerably lower.

Even if flu deaths were ZERO for 2018 and 2019 (which didn't happen), that still brings Trump two year flu death count to over 210,000. Yet you denied reality and claimed 150,000.

That's insane.

 

[bripat9643]

flu deaths for 2017-2018 are 80,000. Deaths for the three other winters under his administration are considerably lower.

Even if flu deaths were ZERO for 2018 and 2019 (which didn't happen), that still brings Trump two year flu death count to over 210,000. Yet you denied reality and claimed 150,000.

That's insane.

COVID deaths aren't flu deaths, moron. If you want to lump them both together, then say that.

Whatever the case, only those suffering from severe brain damage would blame Trump for any of these deaths.

 

[meaner gene]

New York is 46th in nursing home death percentage.

New York in new cases and new deaths is among the lowest in the nation.

Facts are not your friend. They make you look like an idiot.

New York is #1 in total deaths. It's not even close.

I used the word "NEW" to denote how Cuomo has gone from worse to first. New York has to protect itself from the southern states where covid is completely out of control.

 

[meaner gene]

Really? Looks like Cuomo is back to being #1 in New Deaths..........



Coronavirus (COVID-19) U.S. Deaths



RCP Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

State	Deaths	Deaths / 1M pop	New Deaths	Tests	Estimated Cases	Confirmed Cases	Confirmed Case Fatality Rate	Confirmed Cases / 1M pop	Seasonal Flu Deaths1 (CDC 10-Year Avg)
	130,034	-	-	-	-	2,861,722	-	-	-
New York	32,215	1,656.0	+24	4,170,388	-	421,414	7.64%	21,662.6	3,408
New Jersey	15,250	1,716.9	+17	1,508,548	-	176,637	8.63%	19,886.6	944
Massachusetts	8,149	1,172.6	-	946,978	-	109,628	7.43%	15,774.9	1,050
Illinois	7,215	569.4	-	1,700,635	-	146,872	4.91%	11,590.4	1,771
Pennsylvania	6,800	531.2	+3	817,152	-	93,620	7.26%	7,312.9	1,986
California	6,314	159.8	-	4,553,031	-	254,745	2.48%	6,447.2	4,701
Michigan	6,218	622.6	+3	1,318,729	-	72,581	8.57%	7,267.7	1,310
Connecticut	4,335	1,215.9	-	497,693	-	46,717	9.28%	13,103.3	485
Florida	3,703	172.4	+17	2,148,327	-	190,052	1.95%	8,848.8	1,907
Louisiana	3,283	706.2	-	784,124	-	63,289	5.19%	13,614.1	620
Maryland	3,236	535.3	+13	704,450	-	69,341	4.67%	11,469.5	754
Ohio	2,933	250.9	+1	844,675	-	56,481	5.19%	4,831.9	1,689
Georgia	2,856	269.0	-	1,065,629	-	90,493	3.16%	8,523.1	1,094
Indiana	2,687	399.1	+6	512,288	-	47,432	5.66%	7,045.5	827
Texas	2,621	90.4	-	2,273,591	-	190,387	1.38%	6,566.0	2,413
Virginia	1,849	216.6	+4	772,555	-	65,109	2.84%	7,628.0	986
Arizona	1,805	248.0	+17	755,768	-	94,553	1.91%	12,990.3	655
Colorado	1,701	295.4	-	337,391	-	33,612	5.06%	5,836.7	470
Minnesota	1,503	266.5	-	645,172	-	37,624	3.99%	6,671.4	511
North Carolina	1,420	135.4	-	1,018,296	-	71,654	1.98%	6,831.9	1,430
Washington	1,352	177.5	-	599,975	-	35,641	3.79%	4,680.4	607
Mississippi	1,107	372.0	+4	322,221	-	30,674	3.61%	10,306.6	525
Missouri	1,071	174.5	-	450,038	-	23,717	4.52%	3,864.3	964
Alabama	1,007	205.4	+1	430,128	-	42,862	2.35%	8,741.7	763
Rhode Island	960	906.2	-	250,954	-	16,991	5.65%	16,038.9	150
South Carolina	813	157.9	+20	450,482	-	43,386	1.87%	8,426.6	575
Wisconsin	796	136.7	-	603,870	-	30,317	2.63%	5,206.9	762
Iowa	721	228.5	-	328,128	-	30,938	2.33%	9,805.8	487
Tennessee	633	92.6	-	862,121	-	48,712	1.30%	7,128.8	1,144
Kentucky	585	130.9	-	430,071	-	16,376	3.57%	3,665.4	707
District of Columbia	557	789.2	+2	102,809	-	10,447	5.33%	14,802.7	60
Nevada	530	172.1	+2	363,432	-	21,575	2.46%	7,004.5	405
Delaware	512	525.8	-	118,343	-	11,996	4.27%	12,319.2	110
New Mexico	511	243.7	-	363,374	-	12,776	4.00%	6,093.0	260
Oklahoma	398	100.6	-	355,200	-	15,645	2.54%	3,953.8	555
New Hampshire	376	276.5	-	143,806	-	5,857	6.42%	4,307.5	166
Arkansas	286	94.8	+5	338,893	-	23,209	1.23%	7,690.6	528
Nebraska	284	146.8	-	187,808	-	19,660	1.44%	10,163.3	256
Kansas	282	96.8	-	191,561	-	16,005	1.76%	5,493.7	466
Oregon	209	49.6	-	254,732	-	9,636	2.17%	2,284.6	370
Utah	181	56.5	-	366,716	-	24,542	0.74%	7,655.1	277
Puerto Rico	155	48.5	+1	359,473	-	7,787	1.99%	2,438.2	730
Maine	107	79.6	+2	113,260	-	3,397	3.15%	2,527.1	207
South Dakota	97	109.6	-	82,993	-	6,978	1.39%	7,887.8	143
West Virginia	94	52.6	+1	181,324	-	3,141	2.99%	1,757.5	343
Idaho	93	51.9	-	100,474	-	6,994	1.33%	3,902.8	170
North Dakota	80	105.0	-	111,928	-	3,779	2.12%	4,958.9	107
Vermont	56	89.7	-	69,397	-	1,238	4.52%	1,984.0	57
Montana	23	21.5	-	98,950	-	1,167	1.97%	1,091.9	132
Wyoming	20	34.6	-	47,932	-	1,606	1.25%	2,774.9	85
Hawaii	19	13.4	-	98,278	-	975	1.95%	688.6	301
Alaska	15	20.5	-	120,208	-	1,063	1.41%	1,453.1	43
Data Sources: WHO, CDC, ECDC, NHC, DXY, JHU, RCP | Population: U.S. Census | Seasonal Flu 1: CDC 2008–2018 10-Year Avg

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Are you really that stupid. I looked at that same chart and noticed all the BLANKS, meaning states didn't report as of the time of the report.

I clicked YESTERDAY and saw New York was BELOW at least half a dozen other states in absolute numbers, and much lower in terms of per capita.

 

[meaner gene]

COVID deaths aren't flu deaths, moron.

This is why I will now call you an idiot.

 

[Nostra]

New York is 46th in nursing home death percentage.

New York in new cases and new deaths is among the lowest in the nation.

Facts are not your friend. They make you look like an idiot.

New York is #1 in total deaths. It's not even close.

I used the word "NEW" to denote how Cuomo has gone from worse to first. New York has to protect itself from the southern states where covid is completely out of control.

More lies. Cuomo is still the worst.



RCP Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

State	Deaths	Deaths / 1M pop	New Deaths	Tests	Estimated Cases	Confirmed Cases	Confirmed Case Fatality Rate	Confirmed Cases / 1M pop	Seasonal Flu Deaths1 (CDC 10-Year Avg)
	130,034	-	-	-	-	2,861,722	-	-	-
New York	32,215	1,656.0	+24	4,170,388	-	421,414	7.64%	21,662.6	3,408
New Jersey	15,250	1,716.9	+17	1,508,548	-	176,637	8.63%	19,886.6	944
Massachusetts	8,149	1,172.6	-	946,978	-	109,628	7.43%	15,774.9	1,050
Illinois	7,215	569.4	-	1,700,635	-	146,872	4.91%	11,590.4	1,771
Pennsylvania	6,800	531.2	+3	817,152	-	93,620	7.26%	7,312.9	1,986
California	6,314	159.8	-	4,553,031	-	254,745	2.48%	6,447.2	4,701
Michigan	6,218	622.6	+3	1,318,729	-	72,581	8.57%	7,267.7	1,310
Connecticut	4,335	1,215.9	-	497,693	-	46,717	9.28%	13,103.3	485
Florida	3,703	172.4	+17	2,148,327	-	190,052	1.95%	8,848.8	1,907
Louisiana	3,283	706.2	-	784,124	-	63,289	5.19%	13,614.1	620
Maryland	3,236	535.3	+13	704,450	-	69,341	4.67%	11,469.5	754
Ohio	2,933	250.9	+1	844,675	-	56,481	5.19%	4,831.9	1,689
Georgia	2,856	269.0	-	1,065,629	-	90,493	3.16%	8,523.1	1,094
Indiana	2,687	399.1	+6	512,288	-	47,432	5.66%	7,045.5	827
Texas	2,621	90.4	-	2,273,591	-	190,387	1.38%	6,566.0	2,413
Virginia	1,849	216.6	+4	772,555	-	65,109	2.84%	7,628.0	986
Arizona	1,805	248.0	+17	755,768	-	94,553	1.91%	12,990.3	655
Colorado	1,701	295.4	-	337,391	-	33,612	5.06%	5,836.7	470
Minnesota	1,503	266.5	-	645,172	-	37,624	3.99%	6,671.4	511
North Carolina	1,420	135.4	-	1,018,296	-	71,654	1.98%	6,831.9	1,430
Washington	1,352	177.5	-	599,975	-	35,641	3.79%	4,680.4	607
Mississippi	1,107	372.0	+4	322,221	-	30,674	3.61%	10,306.6	525
Missouri	1,071	174.5	-	450,038	-	23,717	4.52%	3,864.3	964
Alabama	1,007	205.4	+1	430,128	-	42,862	2.35%	8,741.7	763
Rhode Island	960	906.2	-	250,954	-	16,991	5.65%	16,038.9	150
South Carolina	813	157.9	+20	450,482	-	43,386	1.87%	8,426.6	575
Wisconsin	796	136.7	-	603,870	-	30,317	2.63%	5,206.9	762
Iowa	721	228.5	-	328,128	-	30,938	2.33%	9,805.8	487
Tennessee	633	92.6	-	862,121	-	48,712	1.30%	7,128.8	1,144
Kentucky	585	130.9	-	430,071	-	16,376	3.57%	3,665.4	707
District of Columbia	557	789.2	+2	102,809	-	10,447	5.33%	14,802.7	60
Nevada	530	172.1	+2	363,432	-	21,575	2.46%	7,004.5	405
Delaware	512	525.8	-	118,343	-	11,996	4.27%	12,319.2	110
New Mexico	511	243.7	-	363,374	-	12,776	4.00%	6,093.0	260
Oklahoma	398	100.6	-	355,200	-	15,645	2.54%	3,953.8	555
New Hampshire	376	276.5	-	143,806	-	5,857	6.42%	4,307.5	166
Arkansas	286	94.8	+5	338,893	-	23,209	1.23%	7,690.6	528
Nebraska	284	146.8	-	187,808	-	19,660	1.44%	10,163.3	256
Kansas	282	96.8	-	191,561	-	16,005	1.76%	5,493.7	466
Oregon	209	49.6	-	254,732	-	9,636	2.17%	2,284.6	370
Utah	181	56.5	-	366,716	-	24,542	0.74%	7,655.1	277
Puerto Rico	155	48.5	+1	359,473	-	7,787	1.99%	2,438.2	730
Maine	107	79.6	+2	113,260	-	3,397	3.15%	2,527.1	207
South Dakota	97	109.6	-	82,993	-	6,978	1.39%	7,887.8	143
West Virginia	94	52.6	+1	181,324	-	3,141	2.99%	1,757.5	343
Idaho	93	51.9	-	100,474	-	6,994	1.33%	3,902.8	170
North Dakota	80	105.0	-	111,928	-	3,779	2.12%	4,958.9	107
Vermont	56	89.7	-	69,397	-	1,238	4.52%	1,984.0	57
Montana	23	21.5	-	98,950	-	1,167	1.97%	1,091.9	132
Wyoming	20	34.6	-	47,932	-	1,606	1.25%	2,774.9	85
Hawaii	19	13.4	-	98,278	-	975	1.95%	688.6	301
Alaska	15	20.5	-	120,208	-	1,063	1.41%	1,453.1	43
Data Sources: WHO, CDC, ECDC, NHC, DXY, JHU, RCP | Population: U.S. Census | Seasonal Flu 1: CDC 2008–2018 10-Year Avg

 

[meaner gene]

I used the word "NEW" to denote how Cuomo has gone from worse to first. New York has to protect itself from the southern states where covid is completely out of control.

More lies. Cuomo is still the worst.

You will notice your post (omitted to save space) shows states with higher new deaths like california as having '-"

Your tiny IQ didn't question why there were so many blanks, (31 states with no data) and instead concluding that since NY was the top of those 19 states reporting by the deadline, that it was the worst.

 

[Nostra]

I used the word "NEW" to denote how Cuomo has gone from worse to first. New York has to protect itself from the southern states where covid is completely out of control.

More lies. Cuomo is still the worst.

You will notice your post (omitted to save space) shows states with higher new deaths like california as having '-"

Your tiny IQ didn't question why there were so many blanks, (31 states with no data) and instead concluding that since NY was the top of those 19 states reporting by the deadline, that it was the worst.

Um, you claimed NY was “the lowest”. I proved you to be a lying sack and now you are on TILT!