Under Trump, things are getting out of hand. Much of what he promised has worked the opposite way.

I can't believe what I have been seeing in this OP. The overwhelming blindness-by-choice that is being shown is unlike any I have ever seen before. The cult mentality is so evident that it is impossible to get through that, even though the factual evidence is totally contrary to what is being said by the cult members.

This reminds me of the Jones cult where 912 people committed suicide because their leader said that was the thing to do. This is worse now because it is millions (not less than a thousand) doing this.

I think I am going to have to take some sleeping pills and relax from what is one of the most disturbing scenarios that this nation has ever faced. Worse still, is that there seems to be no solution that can change this scenario.

We (as a nation) are fucked
 
You're right because it's not rocker science. Driving a vehicle isn't. She rammed her vehicle into the officer in front of her SUV. Such action could reasonably be construed as having the potential to cause serious injury and/or death by both the driver and agents, correct?

How can we get anywhere when you refuse to acknowledge these basic facts?

Cut the bullshit. Not interested, I have better chance of getting a rock to understand something than a dumb goat like you.


You say there is zero chance of indictment...but then refuse to take a small, money-free bet on that, making all kinds of nonsense excuses and trying to deflect.

You are full of shit and we both know it.
 
The Supreme Court has issued numerous rulings and temporary orders that have largely favored Donald Trump's administration, particularly in his second term which began in January 2025. This trend has been noted by legal analysts and lower-court judges, who point to a high win rate for the administration in Supreme Court cases, often in contrast to decisions made by lower federal courts.
You fail to consider that the lower courts are wrong.
 
By the way, that same ICE officer was dragged 300 feet this past summer while trying to arrest a child rapist. The creepy ILLEGAL rolled up the window, trapping the officer's arm, then gunned the car, dragging him with it. He was hospitalized with some pretty serious injuries, injuries which I'm sure our Leftist friends here will mock because, well, he's ICE so he deserves it, right? 😡
The sad reality of this is that his being dragged by a car "in the past" likely affected his vision on this occasion and his reaction to shoot was clouded because of that.

Nonetheless, the LIFE of an innocent person was lost. There is no excuse for that!
 
Cut the bullshit. I'm not interested in continuing a serious discussion with you.
This was never a serious discussion because you've yet to acknowledge basic facts about this case that we know are true because of video.

The driver purposely accelerated into and struck an officer. LE.....and the non-mentally ill....see how that could be construed as a murder attempt and that act potentially put the officer in harms way in the moment. You refuse to acknowledge those basic facts so here we are in a non-serious discussion. You lose.
 
The sad reality of this is that his being dragged by a car "in the past" likely affected his vision on this occasion and his reaction to shoot was clouded because of that.

Nonetheless, the LIFE of an innocent person was lost. There is no excuse for that!
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"Innocent person"

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Under Trump, things are getting out of hand. Much of what he promised has worked the opposite way.

Today's killing of a woman by an ICE agent in Minneapolis is one MORE example that things are out of hand, and it is all because Trump is "creating" disunity, hate and fear among Americans, to the nth degree.

In 2024, he promised to "Make America Safe Again".



but what has been happening is the opposite, given that he is creating hate, anger, disagreement and fighting among Americans. He s being unfair and unjust to more than half of the population and on top of that, he is creating a situation where our different departments of the country have become political and in his favor, meaning that justice is going out the window and being replaced with injustice. Proof is that now the following agencies are for Trump (and the Republican supporters) and against everyone else:

1) the Attorney General Pam Bondi
2) the Supreme Court with 6 of the 9 judges favoring Trump
3) the loyalty over competence seen in all of Trump's cabinet
4) the 24 billionaires that represent companies like Apple and Google on Trump's side

Bottom line is that this is the opposite of what he originally promised when he ran to be president for the first time in 2016. In 2016, he promised to be a president for ALL Americans



and yet just a year ago he said this. "I do could care less about all Americans



In addition, and done multiple times, he has stated this:



Here is one example of something he has done that creates dissension to the nth degree. In 2018 (and under Trump's presidency), Kelly Yu was arrested. She was an illegal alien that came to the U.S. in 1998 to escape the life she had in China. She built a restaurant business, had 70 employees, her son was born American, and she was married to an American citizen. She was a bonus to her community as she never did anything illegally, paid her taxes faithfully and was a good person to everyone she ever came in contact with her. Trump had her deported.



Bottom line is that now under Trump we have half (or more) of the population fighting the other side, we have unfairness and injustice everywhere and every time, we cannot walk out on the street and not worry about being stopped and interrogated to see if we are legally here or whether we are a threat to the community, we now worry about our health insurance costs, our Medicaid and Medicare, about the education of our children, and about our safety overall about being killed by a mass killer or by a riot instigated as a protest.

Trump has not made us safer or more secure.

We are safer and more secure, crime is down, our enemies seem to have backed down, the border is more secure and you have nothing but TDS and nothing to back ups your insane, false accusations.

You should rename you LuckyLiar, that’s all you do.
 
She is an American mother with 3 kids that was not protesting or doing anything. She was trying to cross the road with her car when the ICE vehicle procession was coming. She stopped and waved the first car across and was waving the others by as well, but then the second ICE vehicle stopped, three men got out and went to her car and tried to get her out of her car by force and she panicked and tried to drive off. She was turning right and as she was doing that, the policeman up front took out his gun and fired at her. She was not trying to hit him, just trying to get away. All he had to do was step back to avoid the car entirely. Instead, he shot and killed her. Those are the EXACT details of what happened. You will see all of that if you simply look at the video closely.
Again, your reality is not reality.
 
You fail to consider that the lower courts are wrong.
Bottom line is that this is not just one case but many and in all cases, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Trump and against the lower courts. One additional fact is that it every single case, the same 6 judges ruled in favor of Trump and the other 3 judges ruled against it. If the lower courts were wrong (by law), why wouldn't all 9 judges be in agreement?
 
The sad reality of this is that his being dragged by a car "in the past" likely affected his vision on this occasion and his reaction to shoot was clouded because of that.

I'm not clear if he was the shooter or not.
Nonetheless, the LIFE of an innocent person was lost. There is no excuse for that!
Not totally innocent. Not at all. I'm guessing she was a paid protester from out of state and made a tense situation MUCH worse.
 
Bottom line is that this is not just one case but many and in all cases, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Trump and against the lower courts. One additional fact is that it every single case, the same 6 judges ruled in favor of Trump and the other 3 judges ruled against it. If the lower courts were wrong (by law), why wouldn't all 9 judges be in agreement?

If the lower courts were right (by law), why wouldn't all 9 judges be in agreement?
 
I'm not clear if he was the shooter or not.

Not totally innocent. Not at all. I'm guessing she was a paid protester from out of state and made a tense situation MUCH worse.
He was the shooter. There were 3 policeman, one behind the car, one trying to pry the door open and the shooter.

Here is a clear picture of the shooter with the gun in his hand shooting

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He was the shooter. There were 3 policeman, one behind the car, one trying to pry the door open and the shooter.

Here is a clear picture of the shooter with the gun in his hand shooting

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She might not have committed suicide if she'd complied with the order of a federal officer and exited her vehicle when requested to do so.






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The ICE rioters are the fascists
Exactly.
Just because a lot of them are fat, ugly, middle-aged lesbian women with purple hair doesn't mean they're not fascists. They are. They're a goon squad the likes of which we've never seen before ... but very dangerous nonetheless. And, boy, do they play that martyr card if one of 'em gets a scratch. :icon_rolleyes:
 
Under Trump, things are getting out of hand. Much of what he promised has worked the opposite way.

Today's killing of a woman by an ICE agent in Minneapolis is one MORE example that things are out of hand, and it is all because Trump is "creating" disunity, hate and fear among Americans, to the nth degree.

In 2024, he promised to "Make America Safe Again".



but what has been happening is the opposite, given that he is creating hate, anger, disagreement and fighting among Americans. He s being unfair and unjust to more than half of the population and on top of that, he is creating a situation where our different departments of the country have become political and in his favor, meaning that justice is going out the window and being replaced with injustice. Proof is that now the following agencies are for Trump (and the Republican supporters) and against everyone else:

1) the Attorney General Pam Bondi
2) the Supreme Court with 6 of the 9 judges favoring Trump
3) the loyalty over competence seen in all of Trump's cabinet
4) the 24 billionaires that represent companies like Apple and Google on Trump's side

Bottom line is that this is the opposite of what he originally promised when he ran to be president for the first time in 2016. In 2016, he promised to be a president for ALL Americans



and yet just a year ago he said this. "I do could care less about all Americans



In addition, and done multiple times, he has stated this:



Here is one example of something he has done that creates dissension to the nth degree. In 2018 (and under Trump's presidency), Kelly Yu was arrested. She was an illegal alien that came to the U.S. in 1998 to escape the life she had in China. She built a restaurant business, had 70 employees, her son was born American, and she was married to an American citizen. She was a bonus to her community as she never did anything illegally, paid her taxes faithfully and was a good person to everyone she ever came in contact with her. Trump had her deported.



Bottom line is that now under Trump we have half (or more) of the population fighting the other side, we have unfairness and injustice everywhere and every time, we cannot walk out on the street and not worry about being stopped and interrogated to see if we are legally here or whether we are a threat to the community, we now worry about our health insurance costs, our Medicaid and Medicare, about the education of our children, and about our safety overall about being killed by a mass killer or by a riot instigated as a protest.

Trump has not made us safer or more secure.

We had two halves of the country fighting each other after Nov. 2016, when the Democrats went apeshit because Trump beat their Golden Girl who was supposed to beat him by a landslide. Don't try to rewrite history.
 
He was the shooter. There were 3 policeman, one behind the car, one trying to pry the door open and the shooter.

Here is a clear picture of the shooter with the gun in his hand shooting

View attachment 1203096
The woman was no different then a mass killer shooting students. Here we have woman using a car and was a threat to all ICE agents not just one man who was struck and sent to the hospital. She needed to be stopped
 

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