Under Trump, Health Care and insurance going up for all Americans and for a large number, they will no longer have any!

[westwall]

Illegals are NOT getting health care!!!

Covid Subsidies went away long ago and yet health care costs are up this year (under Trump). He promised that they would go down. That means he either lied or failed!

Oh, and by the way, are you personally happy and willing to accept paying more for your health insurance and drugs?

Bullshit. No one believes that lie.

 

[struth]

Your reply does not address what Trump is doing. Obama has been out of office for 9 years and it is this year, under what Trump is doing, that this is happening.

Address why it is going UP under Trump and millions are losing their health insurance. Explain why Trump is making things worse (not better). He did promise to that, didn't he?

Trump didn’t pass the law setting an expiration date for the Covid bailouts, xiden and dems congress did in their inflation bill

 

[struth]

Illegals are NOT getting health care!!!

Covid Subsidies went away long ago and yet health care costs are up this year (under Trump). He promised that they would go down. That means he either lied or failed!

Oh, and by the way, are you personally happy and willing to accept paying more for your health insurance and drugs?

Another lie, right off TV e ba

Generally speaking they can’t, but they can through emergency room care, which is where they often go for anything from a cold to a broken arm

Fact Sheet: Undocumented Immigrants and Federal Health Care Benefits - National Immigration Forum

This fact sheet describes the health care benefits and programs undocumented individuals are (and are not) eligible for. It also attempts to provide context on healthcare costs accrued by the undocumented population, including providing data on federal and state health expenditures and tax...

forumtogether.org

 

[22lcidw]

Bullshit.

ACA premiums will DOUBLE if Republicans have their way

Tell us how to have low-cost medical coverage for all without affecting the taxpayers.

 

[Hafar1014]

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Its still the Biden economy

 

[Lesh]

Illegals can get healthcare on an emergency basis in ERs

That’s the law and that will not change

What changes is that Medicaid reimbursed some of those costs

Remove that and hospitals have to find a way to make up that revenue

Any idea what that means? Yeah. Higher healthcare costs

 

[Luckyone]

Its still the Biden economy

but Trump is the one that is taking Medicare and Medicaid away from 5 million people and under HIS watch, medicines and health care have gone up in price.

 

[Luckyone]

So, if average people will not be able to afford health insurance so they will not buy it, will the Health Insurance providers go out of business?

They will have no choice, given that Pharma, hospitals, doctors, nurses will all be forced to charge more because if they don't, they will go out of business. It is a lose, lose situation for all

 

[Luckyone]

"A large number"? The democrat minions in the media won't specify about the alleged "large number" but a good guess is that TDS democrats are frantic that their new illegal alien base doesn't qualify for taxpayer funded medical benefits under the great new bill and they are willing to shut down the government to get them back.

Prove your statement about "the Democrats WANTING the illegal aliens to qualify for taxpayer funds". For what reason would they want that?

 

[JohnDB]

this is the data that I gave. Prove it to be wrong!!!

The White House fact sheet says that, under the House bill, Medicaid will better serve the American people “by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.” This is unequivocally false.

As we have covered previously, comprehensive Medicaid coverage is not available to undocumented immigrants. The 1.4 million immigrants the White House presumably refers to are immigrants who will lose coverage due to reductions in state health care programs, funded by states and not by federal Medicaid dollars.

 

[Luckyone]

First of all, I did research on this and found the following things:

1) statements come from the White House
2) statements come from FOX news

Both or these sources are biased and provide lies.

I did find that California approved a budget of $8.2 billion for health care to undocumented aliens but upon a deeper study, I found this:

There are provision in the budget that clearly state that only "income eligible undocumented aliens" can get aid.

Upon review of what "income eligible undocumented aliens means, this is what I found!

AI Overview

Being "income eligible" for undocumented immigrants is a largely hypothetical and often misleading concept, because they are legally barred from most federal and state public benefits, regardless of their income. An income-based metric is only relevant in a few limited, specific circumstances.

Federal benefits

For the vast majority of federally funded programs, an undocumented person's income level is irrelevant. Federal law explicitly prohibits unauthorized immigrants from receiving means-tested benefits, like Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and most Medicaid. A low income does not change this legal ineligibility.
Exceptions to the federal ban include:

• Emergency medical care: Hospitals that accept Medicaid can receive federal funds to cover emergency services provided to individuals who otherwise meet Medicaid income and resource requirements, but lack eligible immigration status.
• Some public health services: Programs for immunizations, testing, and treatment of communicable diseases are available to everyone, regardless of immigration status.
• Emergency disaster relief: Short-term, non-cash, in-kind emergency disaster relief is available to all.
• Food and nutrition programs: The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), federally subsidized school lunch and breakfast programs, and others are generally available to eligible individuals regardless of immigration status.
• K-12 public education: The Supreme Court has ruled that all children, regardless of immigration status, have access to a public education.

and I also found this:

Factchecking Claims about Medicaid and Marketplace Health Coverage for Immigrants – Government Shutdown Edition​

Public comments by leaders in Washington have generated much of the confusion. Vice President JD Vance tweeted that “Democrats are about to shut down the government because they demand we fund healthcare for illegal aliens” and House Speaker Mike Johnson issued a press release stating Democrats want to “reinstate free healthcare for illegal aliens paid by American taxpayers.” These statements have no discernable factual basis.

As we have written repeatedly, undocumented immigrants have never been eligible for full Medicaid coverage. In fact, even many lawfully present immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid. Undocumented immigrants have also never been eligible for premium tax credits to purchase Marketplace plans, and cannot even purchase a private plan on the Marketplace with their own money.

As part of the shutdown negotiations, Democrats requested extension of enhanced Marketplace premium tax credits, first enacted in 2021, that expire at the end of this year and reversal of the massive Medicaid, Marketplace, and other health care cuts in H.R. 1 (the legislation known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act). However, neither of these priorities, if enacted, would somehow newly provide or reinstate Medicaid or Marketplace subsidy eligibility for undocumented immigrants (they will continue to be ineligible whether it happens or not).

On top of all this, no matter what California by itself does, that does not mean that the Democratic PARTY is in agreement.

 

[JohnDB]

First of all, I did research on this and found the following things:

1) statements come from the White House
2) statements come from FOX news

Both or these sources are biased and provide lies.

I did find that California approved a budget of $8.2 billion for health care to undocumented aliens but upon a deeper study, I found this:

There are provision in the budget that clearly state that only "income eligible undocumented aliens" can get aid.

Upon review of what "income eligible undocumented aliens means, this is what I found!

AI Overview

Being "income eligible" for undocumented immigrants is a largely hypothetical and often misleading concept, because they are legally barred from most federal and state public benefits, regardless of their income. An income-based metric is only relevant in a few limited, specific circumstances.

Federal benefits

For the vast majority of federally funded programs, an undocumented person's income level is irrelevant. Federal law explicitly prohibits unauthorized immigrants from receiving means-tested benefits, like Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and most Medicaid. A low income does not change this legal ineligibility.
Exceptions to the federal ban include:

• Emergency medical care: Hospitals that accept Medicaid can receive federal funds to cover emergency services provided to individuals who otherwise meet Medicaid income and resource requirements, but lack eligible immigration status.
• Some public health services: Programs for immunizations, testing, and treatment of communicable diseases are available to everyone, regardless of immigration status.
• Emergency disaster relief: Short-term, non-cash, in-kind emergency disaster relief is available to all.
• Food and nutrition programs: The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), federally subsidized school lunch and breakfast programs, and others are generally available to eligible individuals regardless of immigration status.
• K-12 public education: The Supreme Court has ruled that all children, regardless of immigration status, have access to a public education.

and I also found this:

Factchecking Claims about Medicaid and Marketplace Health Coverage for Immigrants – Government Shutdown Edition​

Public comments by leaders in Washington have generated much of the confusion. Vice President JD Vance tweeted that “Democrats are about to shut down the government because they demand we fund healthcare for illegal aliens” and House Speaker Mike Johnson issued a press release stating Democrats want to “reinstate free healthcare for illegal aliens paid by American taxpayers.” These statements have no discernable factual basis.

As we have written repeatedly, undocumented immigrants have never been eligible for full Medicaid coverage. In fact, even many lawfully present immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid. Undocumented immigrants have also never been eligible for premium tax credits to purchase Marketplace plans, and cannot even purchase a private plan on the Marketplace with their own money.

As part of the shutdown negotiations, Democrats requested extension of enhanced Marketplace premium tax credits, first enacted in 2021, that expire at the end of this year and reversal of the massive Medicaid, Marketplace, and other health care cuts in H.R. 1 (the legislation known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act). However, neither of these priorities, if enacted, would somehow newly provide or reinstate Medicaid or Marketplace subsidy eligibility for undocumented immigrants (they will continue to be ineligible whether it happens or not).

On top of all this, no matter what California by itself does, that does not mean that the Democratic PARTY is in agreement.

 

[Greenbeard]

Trump didn’t pass the law setting an expiration date for the Covid bailouts, xiden and dems congress did in their inflation bill

This is an 80-20 issue and the Trump and GOP are on the wrong side of it. The good news is that most people know who to blame if the GOP "wins" the shutdown and gets to take Americans' health care away.

 

[Hafar1014]

but Trump is the one that is taking Medicare and Medicaid away from 5 million people and under HIS watch, medicines and health care have gone up in price.

Only illegals will lose coverage

 

[Luckyone]

This is not about "believing" but about what is written by law. It is you that believes blindly what one man says. What does that make you?

 

[Hafar1014]

This is not about "believing" but about what is written by law. It is you that believes blindly what one man says. What does that make you?

States pay for Illegals Medicaid then the government reimburses them.

 

[Polishprince]

Health care has always been one of the top 2 concerns for Americans. Nonetheless, under Trump that has become a problem as health insurance has (and will continue) to go up in price and with Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill", 10-15 million Americans will lose their health insurance (Medicare and Medicaid).



With Health Care being so important and critical to Americans, why is Trump doing this?

Oh, and by the way, Trump has been pushing one lie in order to justify what he is doing. He has stated that illegal immigrants were getting health care from the government under Biden, but that is a big lie given that it is unlawful to do that and it has not been done at all (Zero).

GOP misleads with claim that Democrats shut down to give health care to 'illegal immigrants'​

U.S. law prohibits federal health care benefits for undocumented immigrants. Democrats want to return benefits for those with lawful presence, like DACA recipients and asylum-seekers.

By the Numbers: Harmful Republican Megabill Will Take Health Coverage Away From Millions of People and Raise Families’ Costs​

Once again, all of our pockets and the health care we receive is being affected negatively by Trump's policies.

5 Ways the Trump Administration Is Driving Up Health Care ...​

It also needs to be mentioned that the Government is presently shut down and Trump is trying to force the Democrats to give in or he will start firing government employees. The Democrats have refused to give in because giving in means that they would agree to allow Medicaid and Medicare to be taken from millions of Americans and also allow for the expenditures involved in the Bill that would increase YOUR own health care costs.

as it is:

Sanders Report Finds Nearly 700 Prescription Drugs Have ...​

3 days ago — The report also finds that 87 drugs increased in price after Trump sent letters to drug manufacturers. The median price increase was 8%.

You want that to continue to happen to YOU?

If anyone has any complaints about their health care or its costs- Trump isn't the one who signed the ACA.

Trump's plan- Trumpcare- rejected by the Democrats and Sen. McCain- would have provided tremendous health care at unbelievable savings.

 

[struth]

This is an 80-20 issue and the Trump and GOP are on the wrong side of it. The good news is that most people know who to blame if the GOP "wins" the shutdown and gets to take Americans' health care away.

The CR and undoing xiden and the dems expiration aren’t related nor should be

 

[JohnDB]

This is not about "believing" but about what is written by law. It is you that believes blindly what one man says. What does that make you?

If it was just ONE person.....

But its literally EVERYONE except blue dog Democrats.

 

[Greenbeard]

The CR and undoing xiden and the dems expiration aren’t related nor should be

Open enrollment starts in 27 days, so the GOP doesn't have much time to get itself off this ledge.