Uncovered Military Treason

[Hossfly]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

Electing a sand negro as president didn't help. And it is just one thing that points to what I mentioned about civilians tying the hands of the military.

He didn't do so bad. Why, he was a job creator, not a military man.

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[Hossfly]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

About the bayonet. I learned the mission of the Infantry 59 years ago. I was told then, "The mission of the Infantry is to close with and kill or capture the enemy with all means available." That mission has never changed and never will. Oh yes, the bayonet. In November 1965 my unit made the last bayonet attack in US military history. Ordnance wasn't of any use that time. It proved better.

Interesting. Are you talking about that war where even though we won the battles, we lost the war? If we weren't in it to win it, we should have never been in Vietnam. Because the thing to do would have been to invade North Vietnam. Not chase them around Laos and Cambodia. Of course, doing so would have meant another war with China. But a few well placed nukes would have taken care of that.

Didn't need nukes and we damn sure didn't lose no war. The liberal political pukes pissed it away.

 

[Lewdog]

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

I don't have to. Hell you asked them to ban you in your first post.

 

[Hossfly]

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

Better to be pissed off then pissed on. Don'tcha think?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

Better to be pissed off then pissed on. Don'tcha think?

I think Lewd likes the golden showers..

 

[kaptiankrush]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

About the bayonet. I learned the mission of the Infantry 59 years ago. I was told then, "The mission of the Infantry is to close with and kill or capture the enemy with all means available." That mission has never changed and never will. Oh yes, the bayonet. In November 1965 my unit made the last bayonet attack in US military history. Ordnance wasn't of any use that time. It proved better.

Interesting. Are you talking about that war where even though we won the battles, we lost the war? If we weren't in it to win it, we should have never been in Vietnam. Because the thing to do would have been to invade North Vietnam. Not chase them around Laos and Cambodia. Of course, doing so would have meant another war with China. But a few well placed nukes would have taken care of that.

Didn't need nukes and we damn sure didn't lose no war. The liberal political pukes pissed it away.

Though in most ways I support Hitler, he said the same sort of shit about WW I. Face it. We LOST the Vietnam War. We got our asses KICKED! Maybe not as bad as the French who were there before us. But the result was the same. We couldn't even get out of the place until we bombed the North enough for them to agree to let us go. With "honor." We lost tens of thousands of soldiers and lost billions of dollars. And for what. So some gooks could have the "freedom" to shit in their rice patties?

 

[kaptiankrush]

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

I don't have to. Hell you asked them to ban you in your first post.

That is "IF" they were traitors. Is there something about that that you fail to grasp?

 

[kaptiankrush]

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

Better to be pissed off then pissed on. Don'tcha think?

But what do you do when both things are happening. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

 

[Lewdog]

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

I don't have to. Hell you asked them to ban you in your first post.

That is "IF" they were traitors. Is there something about that that you fail to grasp?

No, you said if they didn't like you speaking your mind...

Now go build some more strawman arguments.

 

[Hossfly]

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

Better to be pissed off then pissed on. Don'tcha think?

But what do you do when both things are happening. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

 

[kaptiankrush]

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

I don't have to. Hell you asked them to ban you in your first post.

That is "IF" they were traitors. Is there something about that that you fail to grasp?

No, you said if they didn't like you speaking your mind...

Now go build some more strawman arguments.

Actually, assuming that the mods were just as treasonous as most of the rest of you, I challenged them to make their treason complete and ban me. But maybe they just aren't as treasonous as I assumed. Because I'm still here. Neither have I seen you posting something that told the mods that you wish to debate me. And to not ban me for that reason. So you know what that means. For one thing, it means that there is no point in my asking you what it is in my thread that you think is a "straw man" argument.

 

[bodecea]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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And.....you served.....in what capacity?

 

[bodecea]

You should be watching the commie army that is setting up in the bush..wearing brownshirt forest service, fbi, state parks, and bureau of land management uniforms.

They're the ones that we need to be worrying about right now. Because they haven't sworn an oath to uphold the constitution. They are committed to subverting it. Their very agencies exist in direct opposition to the constitution.

Ah....speaking of Brown Shirts....got your Sam Browne belt yet?

 

[bodecea]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

Electing a sand negro as president didn't help. And it is just one thing that points to what I mentioned about civilians tying the hands of the military.

Never really thought of Drumplethinskin as a "sand negro"....but, ok.

 

[bodecea]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

Splitting hairs. Its what I was taught, it's what the MCPO said. Were you ever in the military?

Oh hell now you've done it, you've got him started on how he's a military man.

We'll be here all night while he expounds relentlessly about his *military* career and (eventually) his superior understanding of religion.

Something of course you know nothing about. Don't like hearing from real veterans, do you?

 

[kaptiankrush]

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

Better to be pissed off then pissed on. Don'tcha think?

But what do you do when both things are happening. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

Life didn't give me lemons. Other humans did. Also, if you get whipped, what do you do. Learn to like whipping like those fukin weirdo's in that book "50 shades of grey?" My solution to problems isn't to "take it up the ass."

 

[Lewdog]

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

I don't have to. Hell you asked them to ban you in your first post.

That is "IF" they were traitors. Is there something about that that you fail to grasp?

No, you said if they didn't like you speaking your mind...

Now go build some more strawman arguments.

Actually, assuming that the mods were just as treasonous as most of the rest of you, I challenged them to make their treason complete and ban me. But maybe they just aren't as treasonous as I assumed. Because I'm still here. Neither have I seen you posting something that told the mods that you wish to debate me. And to not ban me for that reason. So you know what that means. For one thing, it means that there is no point in my asking you what it is in my thread that you think is a "straw man" argument.

Every chance you get you put words in other people's mouths because you can't beat them in a real discussion, so you have to try and create a discussion you can argue against. Just like when you made the comment about saying I "probably don't believe in global warming either." Global warming has nothing to do with this thread, and I said nothing to make anyone assume I don't believe in global warming.

But hey... you just keep doing what you do.

I asked you a simple question and you haven't answered it. Name one country that took on the isolationist model and thrived from it. ONE.

 

[bodecea]

You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

About the bayonet. I learned the mission of the Infantry 59 years ago. I was told then, "The mission of the Infantry is to close with and kill or capture the enemy with all means available." That mission has never changed and never will. Oh yes, the bayonet. In November 1965 my unit made the last bayonet attack in US military history. Ordnance wasn't of any use that time. It proved better.

Interesting. Are you talking about that war where even though we won the battles, we lost the war? If we weren't in it to win it, we should have never been in Vietnam. Because the thing to do would have been to invade North Vietnam. Not chase them around Laos and Cambodia. Of course, doing so would have meant another war with China. But a few well placed nukes would have taken care of that.

Didn't need nukes and we damn sure didn't lose no war. The liberal political pukes pissed it away.

Though in most ways I support Hitler, he said the same sort of shit about WW I. Face it. We LOST the Vietnam War. We got our asses KICKED! Maybe not as bad as the French who were there before us. But the result was the same. We couldn't even get out of the place until we bombed the North enough for them to agree to let us go. With "honor." We lost tens of thousands of soldiers and lost billions of dollars. And for what. So some gooks could have the "freedom" to shit in their rice patties?

"Though in most ways I support Hitler".....says it all...if the Chicken Hawks and Alt-Righties had their way, we'd STILL be Viet Nam.

 

[kaptiankrush]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

Splitting hairs. Its what I was taught, it's what the MCPO said. Were you ever in the military?

Oh hell now you've done it, you've got him started on how he's a military man.

We'll be here all night while he expounds relentlessly about his *military* career and (eventually) his superior understanding of religion.

Something of course you know nothing about. Don't like hearing from real veterans, do you?

What did I say that you think is untrue.

 

[bodecea]

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.

Better to be pissed off then pissed on. Don'tcha think?

But what do you do when both things are happening. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

Life didn't give me lemons. Other humans did. Also, if you get whipped, what do you do. Learn to like whipping like those fukin weirdo's in that book "50 shades of grey?" My solution to problems isn't to "take it up the ass."

"Life didn't give me lemons. Other humans did." You poor thing. So put upon.....