Uncovered Military Treason

[B. Kidd]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Why would I? I'm pragmatic, unlike your extreme perceptions.

 

[kaptiankrush]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

Electing a sand negro as president didn't help. And it is just one thing that points to what I mentioned about civilians tying the hands of the military.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

 

[Lewdog]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Why would I? I'm pragmatic, unlike your extreme perceptions.

Give one good example of a country that went to an isolationist strategy and they prospered.

 

[kaptiankrush]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

 

[Lewdog]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

Electing a sand negro as president didn't help. And it is just one thing that points to what I mentioned about civilians tying the hands of the military.

It's gusto! Back again!

 

[Lewdog]

The country is seen as weak. From Clinton and especially through Obama, we have gotten weaker and deeper in debt. Our enemies no longer fear us and our allies don't trust us. This is what happens when you elect people who have no spine and grovel instead of stand up.

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

 

[B. Kidd]

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Why would I? I'm pragmatic, unlike your extreme perceptions.

Give one good example of a country that went to an isolationist strategy and they prospered.

Ask an isolationist, cause I'm not one.

 

[kaptiankrush]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

 

[ABikerSailor]

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

Shit................we've hardly EVER been an isolationist country. Even during the Revolutionary War, we had soldiers from other countries helping us to fight off the British. We have never ever truly been an isolationist country.

 

[koshergrl]

This is what I'm talking about...

There are more of these scumbags creeping around our public lands than there are muslims. At least so far. This is a BLM *agent* headed to Harney County.

Yes, they're still importing militarized "agents" to Harney County, where the feds are still hanging out at the refuge, which still isn't open to the public except for scheduled *tours*.

You should be watching the commie army that is setting up in the bush..wearing brownshirt forest service, fbi, state parks, and bureau of land management uniforms.

They're the ones that we need to be worrying about right now. Because they haven't sworn an oath to uphold the constitution. They are committed to subverting it. Their very agencies exist in direct opposition to the constitution.

What you say may be true to some extant. But that is small potatoes compared to islam. Also, you are forgetting those who ARE sworn to uphold the constitution. I remember hearing about Douglas MacAtrhur being sent in to clear out some squatting WW I veterans from Washington. I also remember hearing about who I think was Herbert Hoover sending in troops to smash armed West Virginia coal miners.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

Splitting hairs. Its what I was taught, it's what the MCPO said. Were you ever in the military?

 

[koshergrl]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

Splitting hairs. Its what I was taught, it's what the MCPO said. Were you ever in the military?

Oh hell now you've done it, you've got him started on how he's a military man.

We'll be here all night while he expounds relentlessly about his *military* career and (eventually) his superior understanding of religion.

 

[kaptiankrush]

We are weak because our leaders' sold out the country to globalism in order to personally enrich themselves, to the point that we no longer trust them or ourselves; and the bad news is, that we elected them and are not without responsibility. With that being said, Trump needs all the support he can get to turn around the US Titanic. Will he get enough support?

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

 

[Hossfly]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

About the bayonet. I learned the mission of the Infantry 59 years ago. I was told then, "The mission of the Infantry is to close with and kill or capture the enemy with all means available." That mission has never changed and never will. Oh yes, the bayonet. In November 1965 my unit made the last bayonet attack in US military history. Ordnance wasn't of any use that time. It proved better.

 

[kaptiankrush]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

Splitting hairs. Its what I was taught, it's what the MCPO said. Were you ever in the military?

It's not splitting hairs and you were taught wrong.

 

[Lewdog]

The Titanic was a British ship.

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Again with the communist!

How quickly you come when called, comrade..

 

[kaptiankrush]

What is the U.S. military's mission. To kill those who threaten the U.S. In that, they have failed. First in Vietnam, they learned that an enemy can lose the battles, but still win the war. The same thing is replaying itself with the West's war against islam. Though I am sure the military is well aware of what is really going on. But their hands are tied. Tied by the REAL traitorous scum. YOU! (At least 90% of you that is)

I am sure that the military is well aware that it is a mistake to underestimate the intelligence of the enemy. Such as what they are up to with their terrorist kamikaze attacks. They know that they can't win that way on a military front. But they sure as hell can win in the long run through the battlefield of public opinion. All they have to do is patiently wear us down. Using our "freedoms" and "democracy" as a weapon against us. They know that Americans would rather see their women get their clits cut off and be forced to wear burkas (or at least rags on their heads) rather than give up the things I mentioned.

Like it or not, the military's job is to KILL! But how many of you bleeding heart, liberal, politically correct traitorous scum out there would rather submit to islam. Rather than kill all those whos religion-political structure is opposed to your way of life. Most of you I think. Who will be the first brainwashed fool to tell me some politically correct bullshit philosophy like, "If you use the same methods against your enemy that they use against you, then you are no better than they are." You stupid ass scum! You moronic filthy slime! USMB, make YOUR treason complete. Ban me for speaking these truths. Show your treason.
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You got it partially right, but not completely. And, you used a wall of text to try to explain it.

I'll tell you like a MCPO told my NR and R class one time back in the late mid 90's, when Mission and Vision statements were becoming popular.

He asked if we knew the mission and vision statement of the U.S. Military. Lots of people gave various answers, and he said you're partially right to all of them, then said the mission and vision of the U.S. Military is thus..............

To deliver ordinance on target and on time to destroy things and kill people in the furtherance of the objectives of this country.

Simple.

The "mission statement" you mentioned is wrong. Tell me, is a bayonet considered to be "ordinance?" The mission objective of the military should be to kill the enemy. Or potential enemies. How they do it is unimportant. Though I would prefer they not do it through old age.

About the bayonet. I learned the mission of the Infantry 59 years ago. I was told then, "The mission of the Infantry is to close with and kill or capture the enemy with all means available." That mission has never changed and never will. Oh yes, the bayonet. In November 1965 my unit made the last bayonet attack in US military history. Ordnance wasn't of any use that time. It proved better.

Interesting. Are you talking about that war where even though we won the battles, we lost the war? If we weren't in it to win it, we should have never been in Vietnam. Because the thing to do would have been to invade North Vietnam. Not chase them around Laos and Cambodia. Of course, doing so would have meant another war with China. But a few well placed nukes would have taken care of that.

 

[kaptiankrush]

deflection, f^ckstick!

Hey, ask North Korea how isolationism works for their country.

Do you get paid to say stupid things? How did America compare to North Korea before NAFTA and GATT.

If you think that the United States was an isolationist country before NAFTA, TPP, and all the other trade agreements, you're crazier than I thought.

I never said that we were isolationist before NAFTA and GATT. (Though we should have been) We were just less so after those things. Get this traitor. There isn't anything that Americans can't make or produce. And if any such thing existed, we don't need it. The U.S. is already approaching 20 billion in debt. And when it was just 18 trillion, I heard that each year we HAD to pay 420 billion just on the interest on our national debt. Also, back at 18 trillion, we had about 61 trillion dollars worth of unfunded obligations. How bad do things have to get for you. Let me guess. You don't believe in human caused global warming either.

Also, from your previous post I see that you are trying to get me banned as a sock. I guess that means you don't want to debate me. So blow anything else you might have to say out your ass and go haunt somebody elses thread.

See... you like to try and build strawman arguments... trying to say I don't believe in global warming either?

You want the U.S. to become an isolationist country and invade other countries and kill people into extension. You really think that is a purposeful and successful path?

Plead to the mods not to ban me. Or piss off.