Unacceptable: Biden’s DOJ Fines Tennessee Christian Trucking Company $700,000 for Requiring Workers to Disclose Legal Status

[ThisIsMe]

That's free market capitalism. Using the law to give American workers an advantage over other workers is called protectionism.

Using the law to give citizens preference for jobs over non citizens is called the right thing to do

I mean…so you’re applying for a job that’s a really good paying job…and a non citizen can get that job over the citizen? What you are suggesting is citizens have to take a back seat to the non citizen…how is that right that Americans have to compete with the rest of the world…in their own country.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Just Say No Until It Is Nothing

Now is the time to stand up to the White Replacement government and test how much power it has to enforce its agenda, and how long that power over the people will last if continually defied. Remember how great Americans were in rejecting Prohibition.

Test it , dude.
Do it.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Sic Semper Tyrannis

Sick simper dumbass.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So we give them a hearing then kick them out if they are here illegally.

Or an employer calls ICE if they find an employee has lied about their citizenship.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Using the law to give citizens preference for jobs over non citizens is called the right thing to do

I mean…so you’re applying for a job that’s a really good paying job…and a non citizen can get that job over the citizen? What you are suggesting is citizens have to take a back seat to the non citizen…how is that right that Americans have to compete with the rest of the world…in their own country.

No.
The suggestion is that all valid candidates are required to show the same documentation.

 

[Moonglow]

Using the law to give citizens preference for jobs over non citizens is called the right thing to do

I mean…so you’re applying for a job that’s a really good paying job…and a non citizen can get that job over the citizen? What you are suggesting is citizens have to take a back seat to the non citizen…how is that right that Americans have to compete with the rest of the world…in their own country.

That is what is done by white people who want to hire them.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No.
The suggestion is that all valid candidates are required to show the same documentation.

I agree that they should not be given undue burden to prove their eligibility to work, my point is that some of you here are suggesting that, apparently, the non citizen should be given equal preference for jobs. To me, that’s a problem because we should want to make sure Americans are not made to be second choice in their own country.

I guess there are those who don’t think so…

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Translation:
“I really miss those traditional hardcore Bible thumping ‘Conservatives’….the ones who didn’t conserve, preserve or protect anything, the ones with no ball-sack, the one’s that would polish the AR-15’s they’d never have the nuts to use, the foolish suckers we could easily bully, easily steer their way of thinking by throwing a Bible verse in their face…we could get those passive dumbass pussies to accept anything with a simple guilt trip. The nutless bastards finally grew a pair of balls and now they won’t ignore us disgusting globalist degenerates as we run amok, trashing and transforming their nation into the no borders, no boundaries anything goes dark socialist foreign shithole we seek.”

You can't call yourself a Christian if you ignore Jesus in favor of old Jews who killed Jesus.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I agree that they should not be given undue burden to prove their eligibility to work, my point is that some of you here are suggesting that, apparently, the non citizen should be given equal preference for jobs. To me, that’s a problem because we should want to make sure Americans are not made to be second choice in their own country.

I guess there are those who don’t think so…

Watching the thread and as someone that works in Human Resources that's not what I'm seeing (in general).

You say "they should not be given undue burden to prove their eligibility to work" but then build a strawman that is basically "if they aren't given an undue burden, then somehow that is giving them a hiring preference" and somehow this is about hiring illegals. Some even claim it's about punishing the company for not hiring illegals. Neither of which are the case.

The I-9 Federal Eligibility to Work Form has to be completed for all employees AFTER the selection process and as part of the making them an employee process. The I-9 instructions are very clear, there are lists of documents on the back characterized as "A" (establishes identity and eligibility), "B" (identify) and "C" (eligibility). A person can supply one from column "A" OR one from column "B" and one from column "C".

The choice is the new employees, it is not the employers choice. The employer cannot dictate which documents the prospective employee provides. As long as the documents establish the requirements of one from "A" or one each from "B" & "C".

If the employer is:

• Requiring the legal non-citizen prospective hire provide specific documents, that is against the law.
• Treating citizens differently during the on-boarding process differently (such as taking documents as presented but citizens but requiring specific documents) by legal non-citizens, that is against the law.
• Requiring legal non-citizens to provide additional documents outside the list, that is against the law.
• Intentionally making the hiring process different for citizens and legal non-citizens, that is against the law.

This isn't about forcing the company to hire illegal aliens, it's about having the same non-discriminatory hiring practice for all new hires instead of one for citizens and having onerous and different practices for non-citizens.


WW

[DISCLAIMER: I fully support the hiring of only legally eligible workers. I'd like to see a more efficient eVerify system that provides near-real-time results. And the results of which could stop the hiring process.]

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I agree that they should not be given undue burden to prove their eligibility to work, my point is that some of you here are suggesting that, apparently, the non citizen should be given equal preference for jobs. To me, that’s a problem because we should want to make sure Americans are not made to be second choice in their own country.

I guess there are those who don’t think so…

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Agree, but I disagree with your remark about "undue" burden to prove eligibility. Every job I've ever had, I've been given the burden to prove my eligibility to work. That's how America functions.

But otherwise, your second point is very well said.

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[ThisIsMe]

Watching the thread and as someone that works in Human Resources that's not what I'm seeing (in general).

You say "they should not be given undue burden to prove their eligibility to work" but then build a strawman that is basically "if they aren't given an undue burden, then somehow that is giving them a hiring preference" and somehow this is about hiring illegals. Some even claim it's about punishing the company for not hiring illegals. Neither of which are the case.

The I-9 Federal Eligibility to Work Form has to be completed for all employees AFTER the selection process and as part of the making them an employee process. The I-9 instructions are very clear, there are lists of documents on the back characterized as "A" (establishes identity and eligibility), "B" (identify) and "C" (eligibility). A person can supply one from column "A" OR one from column "B" and one from column "C".

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The choice is the new employees, it is not the employers choice. The employer cannot dictate which documents the prospective employee provides. As long as the documents establish the requirements of one from "A" or one each from "B" & "C".

If the employer is:

• Requiring the legal non-citizen prospective hire provide specific documents, that is against the law.
• Treating citizens differently during the on-boarding process differently (such as taking documents as presented but citizens but requiring specific documents) by legal non-citizens, that is against the law.
• Requiring legal non-citizens to provide additional documents outside the list, that is against the law.
• Intentionally making the hiring process different for citizens and legal non-citizens, that is against the law.

This isn't about forcing the company to hire illegal aliens, it's about having the same non-discriminatory hiring practice for all new hires instead of one for citizens and having onerous and different practices for non-citizens.


WW

[DISCLAIMER: I fully support the hiring of only legally eligible workers. I'd like to see a more efficient eVerify system that provides near-real-time results. And the results of which could stop the hiring process.]

So, we’ve drifted away from what I was responding to, which was another poster saying that a company hiring non citizens over citizens was free market capitalism and that giving preference to a citizen over a non citizen is protectionism. It was that to which I was responding.

 

[CowboyTed]

How does it feel to be a communist?

What does it feel like to be ignorant about communism...

Do feel embarrassed when people talk about the subject and you don't understand...

Like last week when you blamed the bad weather on communism...

But I say you have it solved, you just listen to the voices that tell you that you are smart..."I am smart, I am.."

 

[Bob Blaylock]

What does it feel like to be ignorant about communism...

We wouldn't know. You'd have to tell us.