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Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
That was an accident.
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Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
It's extremely simple.
Israel wants peace.
The Arabs want Israel's destruction.
Therefore unless Israel commits suicide, which it won't, no peace is possible.
Both sides need to want it and the Arabs don't.
Or Iran follow international law.Bullshit. For those who know even a touch about the uses of uranium and the enrichment process, there is zero theoretical about Iran's nuclear weapons program.
They don't have a missile to load anything on to. And for I all care, disarm Israel from nuclear weapons and make a nuke free Middle East. Finland pushed for a world meeting on this until the US pressured them to completely end the meetings.
So either Israel disarm, or start a arms race.
Which is laughable to even think of that. Iran? Might as well ask animals to talk.
Not according to every single surviving eyewitness to Israel's deliberate attack:Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
That was an accident.
Only when they're attacked by states other than Israel.Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
Only when they're attacked by states other than Israel.Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
"MEMORANDUM:
From: Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
Subject: Attack on the USS Liberty June 8, 1967
"Date: June 8, 1997
"I have never believed that the attack on the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. That is ridiculous. I have flown over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, thousands of hours, searching for ships and identifying all types of ships at sea.
"The Liberty was the ugliest, strangest looking ship in the U.S. Navy.
"As a communications intelligence ship, it was sprouting every kind of antenna. It looked like a lobster with all those projections moving every which way.
"Israel knew perfectly well that the ship was American. After all, the Liberty's American flag and markings were in full view in perfect visibility for the Israeli aircraft that overflew the ship eight times over a period of nearly eight hours prior to the attack.
"I am confident that Israel knew the Liberty could intercept radio messages from all parties and potential parties to the ongoing war, then in its fourth day, and that Israel was preparing to seize the Golan Heights from Syria despite President Johnson's known opposition to such a move.
"I think they realized that if we learned in advance of their plan, there would be a tremendous amount of negotiating between Tel Aviv and Washington.
"And I believe Moshe Dayan concluded that he could prevent Washington from becoming aware of what Israel was up to by destroying the primary source of acquiring that information the USS Liberty.
"The result was a wanton sneak attack that left 34 American sailors dead and 171 seriously injured. What is so chilling and cold-blooded, of course, is that they could kill as many Americans as they did in confidence that Washington would cooperate in quelling any public outcry."
Admiral Thomas Moorer Rejects Israeli's Excuse
Not according to every single surviving eyewitness to Israel's deliberate attack:Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
That was an accident.
"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.
"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.
"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.
"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us.
"Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded..."
USS Liberty Memorial
The only thing that saved Israeli ass that day, was LBJ calling back the F4's, because he thought it might have been the Soviets who were doing the shooting. Otherwise, there would've been an old-fashioned, Hebrew beat down!To Israel's chagrin; the USS Liberty proved to be one very tough ship to sink.
They straffed, torpedoed, and bombed it, and the ship was still afloat.
When the zionist plan of sinking the USS Liberty with all hands lost proved to be a failure.
Only then did Israel call off the attack; and falsely claim it was a case of mistaken identity and an accident.
Not according to every single surviving eyewitness to Israel's deliberate attack:Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
That was an accident.
"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.
"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.
"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.
"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us.
"Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded..."
USS Liberty Memorial
If the Jews simply want peace, why are they continuing to build settlements for their civilian population in the occupied territories? What Eastern border of the Land of Israel to you envision?It's extremely simple.
Israel wants peace.
The Arabs want Israel's destruction.
Therefore unless Israel commits suicide, which it won't, no peace is possible.
Both sides need to want it and the Arabs don't.
Are you arrogant enough to think your Jew-jerk opinions rival Thomas Moorer's?Only when they're attacked by states other than Israel.Is a USS ship sovereign U.S. soil.? USS Liberty Memorial
"MEMORANDUM:
From: Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
Subject: Attack on the USS Liberty June 8, 1967
"Date: June 8, 1997
"I have never believed that the attack on the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. That is ridiculous. I have flown over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, thousands of hours, searching for ships and identifying all types of ships at sea.
"The Liberty was the ugliest, strangest looking ship in the U.S. Navy.
"As a communications intelligence ship, it was sprouting every kind of antenna. It looked like a lobster with all those projections moving every which way.
"Israel knew perfectly well that the ship was American. After all, the Liberty's American flag and markings were in full view in perfect visibility for the Israeli aircraft that overflew the ship eight times over a period of nearly eight hours prior to the attack.
"I am confident that Israel knew the Liberty could intercept radio messages from all parties and potential parties to the ongoing war, then in its fourth day, and that Israel was preparing to seize the Golan Heights from Syria despite President Johnson's known opposition to such a move.
"I think they realized that if we learned in advance of their plan, there would be a tremendous amount of negotiating between Tel Aviv and Washington.
"And I believe Moshe Dayan concluded that he could prevent Washington from becoming aware of what Israel was up to by destroying the primary source of acquiring that information the USS Liberty.
"The result was a wanton sneak attack that left 34 American sailors dead and 171 seriously injured. What is so chilling and cold-blooded, of course, is that they could kill as many Americans as they did in confidence that Washington would cooperate in quelling any public outcry."
Admiral Thomas Moorer Rejects Israeli's Excuse
in fact if Israel wanted to kill every person on board the LIBERTY----it could have EASILY done so -------there are always LOTS OF OPINIONS in navy investigations Ask me how I know -----you jerk. The real clue to the fact that the LIBERTY thing was either ALL or MOSTLY accident---is the fact that it was very much a ONE TIME EVENT unlike islamic terrorism which is HIGHLY REPETITIVE. In human psychology a well know fact is that the "BEST PREDICTOR OF FUTURE BEHAVIOR IS PAST BEHEVIOR" -----i predict lots more islamic terrorism -------I also predict that an israeli attack on a US vessel is HIGHLY UNLIKELY
Your link:Not according to every single surviving eyewitness to Israel's deliberate attack:That was an accident.
"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.
"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.
"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.
"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us.
"Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded..."
USS Liberty Memorial
Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity...
American inquiries, memoranda, records of testimony, and various reports involving or mentioning the Liberty attack include, but are not limited to, the following:
U.S. Naval Court of Inquiry of June 1967
Joint Chief of Staff's Report of June 1967.
CIA Intelligence Memorandums of June 1967
Clark Clifford Report of July 1967
Senate Foreign Relations Committee Testimony during hearings of the 1967 Foreign Aid Authorization bill, July 1967
House Armed Services Committee Investigation of 1971
The NSA History Report of 1981
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Start USS Liberty, when craps out, go UN resolutions, when craps out, US money/aid/taxes, when craps out, start USS Liberty. Hilarious. Bth., who's that Smelly Butler anyway?"Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact.
Philistines don't have an exclusive right to build their settlements in occupied territories, of course.If the Jews simply want peace, why are they continuing to build settlements for their civilian population in the occupied territories?
The one defined in the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty, Annex I, Israel-Jordan International Boundary Delimitation and Demarcation, of course. Easy, isn't it?What Eastern border of the Land of Israel to you envision?