UN: Israel committed "Complete Massacre" and "the worst ever" in Gaza

[gipper]

Do you agree that Israel too is a terrorist state? that that regime too has met the FBI definition of terrorism?

Many Lebanese are Christians, some 37% of the population.

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You’re wasting your time. The Toddster is a Zionists MAGA idiot.

 

[hadit]

Hamas have made that offer before, last October, but Nazinyahu refused, it was dismissed by the IDF. Israel opted to bomb Gaza, that was their choice, their preference over and above getting every hostage out.

Also Israel do not "have to" kill thousands more, they can stop at any time.

How foolish to pretend making an "offer" does anything. If they simply released all hostages immediately, it would be done with no need to keep using them as propaganda pawns.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don't think Israel is guilty of unlawful use of force and violence.

Well that can't be true, the UN is the ultimate arbiter of international law, member states acknowledge that when they sign the charter and become UN members.

Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, cease all measures contrary to international law, as well as discriminatory legislation, policies and actions in the Occupied Palestinian Territory that violate the human rights of the Palestinian people, including the killing and injury of civilians, the arbitrary detention and imprisonment of civilians, the forced displacement of civilians, including attempts at forced transfers of Bedouin communities, the transfer of its own population into the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, the destruction and confiscation of civilian property, including home demolitions, including if carried out as collective punishment in violation of international humanitarian law, and any obstruction of humanitarian assistance, and that it fully respect human rights law and comply with its legal obligations in this regard, including in accordance with relevant United Nations resolutions;

and

Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, comply with its legal obligations under international law, as mentioned in the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice and as demanded in General Assembly resolutions ES-10/15 of 20 July 2004 and ES-10/13 of 21 October 2003, and that it immediately cease the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, dismantle forthwith the structure situated therein, repeal or render ineffective all legislative and regulatory acts relating thereto, and make reparations for all damage caused by the construction of the wall, which has gravely impacted the human rights and the socioeconomic living conditions of the Palestinian people;

Source: Resolution adopted by the General Assembly on 30 December 2022

This is a fraction of the total historic collection of resolutions demanding Israel stop acting unlawfully.

Now you might, as some do, state that Israel does not respect these resolutions, that they UN is acting prejudicially and that Israel alone decides what is lawful and legal. But as soon as you do that you face the situation where Hamas too can take that same view. If Israel does not want to hear such view from the UN it could just leave the UN, nobody's stopping them.

This is in fact was has been happening since 1948, Israel disregards the UN, disregards international law and continues its crimes and because the USA vetoes any possible steps to penalize Israel the crimes go on, year after year after year. Faced with that Hamas and Hezbollah and other also disregard the law.

If the US would stop flogging a dead horse and do the right thing, Israel would be sanctioned and forced to obey the UN just as was done with Saddam Hussein's Iraq for example.

On 29 November 1990, the Security Council passed Resolution 678 under the guidance of Canada, the USSR, United Kingdom and the United States,[1] which gave Iraq until 15 January 1991 to withdraw from Kuwait and empowered states to use "all necessary means" to force Iraq out of Kuwait after the deadline.

This is what needs to be done, else Israel's military bases should be bombed.

Many Lebanese are Christians, some 37% of the population.

Yes, the Muslims are working very hard to keep reducing that percentage.

No, it's always had a large Christian population (its in the heart of the historic Christian world) both before and after Islam came to exist.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well that can't be true, the UN is the ultimate arbiter of international law, member states acknowledge that when they sign the charter and become UN members.


and


Source: Resolution adopted by the General Assembly on 30 December 2022

This is a fraction of the total historic collection of resolutions demanding Israel stop acting unlawfully.

Now you might, as some do, state that Israel does not respect these resolutions, that they UN is acting prejudicially and that Israel alone decides what is lawful and legal. But as soon as you do that you face the situation where Hamas too can take that same view. If Israel does not want to hear such view from the UN it could just leave the UN, nobody's stopping them.

This is in fact was has been happening since 1948, Israel disregards the UN, disregards international law and continues its crimes and because the USA vetoes any possible steps to penalize Israel the crimes go on, year after year after year. Faced with that Hamas and Hezbollah and other also disregard the law.

If the US would stop flogging a dead horse and do the right thing, Israel would be sanctioned and forced to obey the UN just as was done with Saddam Hussein's Iraq for example.



This is what needs to be done, else Israel's military bases should be bombed.

No, it's always had a large Christian population (its in the heart of the historic Christian world) both before and after Islam came to exist.

The UN? No thanks.

No, it's always had a large Christian population (its in the heart of the historic Christian world) both before and after Islam came to exist.

What percentage was their Christian population 50 years ago? 100 years ago?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The UN? No thanks.

You don't make any sense then, no logic to your position. You cannot claim Israel has not acted "unlawfully" unless you can define the law.

No, it's always had a large Christian population (its in the heart of the historic Christian world) both before and after Islam came to exist.

What percentage was their Christian population 50 years ago? 100 years ago?

I don't know, perhaps you can find out and share it here. Here's numbers from 1932:

Christians were about 50% of the population.

 

[Shusha]

You don't make any sense then, no logic to your position. You cannot claim Israel has not acted "unlawfully" unless you can define the law.

The UN does not create or define international law. International law is derived from treaties and custom.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The UN does not create or define international law. International law is derived from treaties and custom.

The UN charter is a treaty last time I looked.

 

[Shusha]

The UN charter is a treaty last time I looked.

It is. But it is important to make the distinction between the treaties and customs that form law and the UN as an organization.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You don't make any sense then, no logic to your position. You cannot claim Israel has not acted "unlawfully" unless you can define the law.

I don't know, perhaps you can find out and share it here. Here's numbers from 1932:

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Christians were about 50% of the population.

You don't make any sense then, no logic to your position. You cannot claim Israel has not acted "unlawfully" unless you can define the law.

When the uncivilized countries get to vote on the law, the vote is worthless.
Look at the number of votes against Israel.
Now look at the number against Iran.

Christians were about 50% of the population.

Looks like the Muslims were about 40%.
Now they're about 68%.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well that can't be true, the UN is the ultimate arbiter of international law, member states acknowledge that when they sign the charter and become UN members.


and


Source: Resolution adopted by the General Assembly on 30 December 2022

This is a fraction of the total historic collection of resolutions demanding Israel stop acting unlawfully.

Now you might, as some do, state that Israel does not respect these resolutions, that they UN is acting prejudicially and that Israel alone decides what is lawful and legal. But as soon as you do that you face the situation where Hamas too can take that same view. If Israel does not want to hear such view from the UN it could just leave the UN, nobody's stopping them.

This is in fact was has been happening since 1948, Israel disregards the UN, disregards international law and continues its crimes and because the USA vetoes any possible steps to penalize Israel the crimes go on, year after year after year. Faced with that Hamas and Hezbollah and other also disregard the law.

If the US would stop flogging a dead horse and do the right thing, Israel would be sanctioned and forced to obey the UN just as was done with Saddam Hussein's Iraq for example.



This is what needs to be done, else Israel's military bases should be bombed.

No, it's always had a large Christian population (its in the heart of the historic Christian world) both before and after Islam came to exist.

Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, comply with its legal obligations under international law, as mentioned in the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice and as demanded in General Assembly resolutions ES-10/15 of 20 July 2004 and ES-10/13 of 21 October 2003, and that it immediately cease the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory,

There is no Palestine. No Palestine, no Palestinian territory.
You can't occupy something that doesn't exist.

Might as well pass a resolution condemning the occupations of Oz and Mordor.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, comply with its legal obligations under international law, as mentioned in the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice and as demanded in General Assembly resolutions ES-10/15 of 20 July 2004 and ES-10/13 of 21 October 2003, and that it immediately cease the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory,

There is no Palestine. No Palestine, no Palestinian territory.
You can't occupy something that doesn't exist.

Might as well pass a resolution condemning the occupations of Oz and Mordor.

Spoken just like a holocaust denier, facts don't matter, reality doesn't matter, so just repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, like I said Zionist Israel is a copy of the Third Reich.

 

[Shusha]

Spoken just like a holocaust denier, facts don't matter, reality doesn't matter, so just repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, like I said Zionist Israel is a copy of the Third Reich.

As a point of FACT, though, there is no treaty which delineates a border between Israel and a Palestine. Thus, there is not, factually, a territory which can be claimed by a "state" of Palestine. There is a lot of talk about where such borders should be, might be, could be. But no possible legal position about where such borders ARE.

Edited to add: This is relevant in understanding the distinction between the UN as an organization, and actual international law.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Spoken just like a holocaust denier, facts don't matter, reality doesn't matter, so just repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, like I said Zionist Israel is a copy of the Third Reich.

Facts matter, show me when the nation of Palestine existed.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Facts matter, show me when the nation of Palestine existed.

Who said there was a nation called "Palestine"?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

As a point of FACT, though, there is no treaty which delineates a border between Israel and a Palestine. Thus, there is not, factually, a territory which can be claimed by a "state" of Palestine. There is a lot of talk about where such borders should be, might be, could be. But no possible legal position about where such borders ARE.

Edited to add: This is relevant in understanding the distinction between the UN as an organization, and actual international law.

Israel defines what international law is, that's the Zionist regimes actual position, they acknowledge no authority other than themselves.

The Third Reich took the same view and so the only way to rectify the injustices was to destroy the Third Reich, and it's much the same way with Israel, only an external force or authority can fix this.

The UN was created to reduce the prospects of a world war on the scale of the first and second, that's why it was created, to serve that purpose but Israel does not acknowledge any authority and the US facilitates the regime's crimes and has emasculated the UN.

This is going to get far far worse for everyone before it gets better.

 

[Sayaras]

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Who said there was a nation called "Palestine"?

No Palestine, no occupied Palestinian territory.

Glad you agree.

 

[Shusha]

Israel defines what international law is, that's the Zionist regimes actual position, they acknowledge no authority other than themselves.

Not so. International law can be easily defined objectively and factually. It is based in treaty agreements and in custom. There is no treaty, therefore there is no territory of Palestine. To deny that is to overturn the law and establish a system of something other than law.

The UN was created to reduce the prospects of a world war on the scale of the first and second, that's why it was created, to serve that purpose ...

Yes. It was not created to overturn the existing international legal system and has no powers to do so. It can not create states, dismantle states, change the borders of states. Its purpose, on the contrary, is to UPHOLD the territorial integrity and political independence of states and to refrain from intervening in domestic matters.

but Israel does not acknowledge any authority

Patently, demonstrably false.

and the US facilitates the regime's crimes and has emasculated the UN.

The UN has been emasculated by its own corruption.

 

[Ancient lion]

Germany demands swift investigation over Israeli airstrike on school in Gaza that killed at least 25 civilians​

Germany demands swift investigation over Israeli airstrike on school in Gaza that killed at least 25 civilians

Repeated Israeli attacks on schools should stop, says German Foreign Ministry - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Germany demands swift investigation over Israeli airstrike on school in Gaza that killed at least 25 civilians​

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Germany demands swift investigation over Israeli airstrike on school in Gaza that killed at least 25 civilians

Repeated Israeli attacks on schools should stop, says German Foreign Ministry - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Exactly!
When terrorists hide in schools, no fair killing the terrorists.