UN finds 'extermination' of detainees in Syria

[irosie91]

Gee they don't seem to have any problem with Erdogan's systematic slaughter of Kurds that is now bordering on genocide.

Odd priorities the UN has.

Does Turkish treatment of the Kurds excuse barbarism in Syria ? What a strange world you live in ?

where did dancer suggest that the barbarism of the filthy Syrian Baathist pigs -----justifies the barbarism of the filthy islamicist Turks. It seems to me that she simply would like to see BOTH atrocities addressed

What barbarism of turks?

The only barbarians are Putin and his dog Ass*ad in the country.

So you would have ISIS completely take over Syria? Is that who you are backing?

So you would have Hezbollah (aka Iran) completely take over Syria?

 

[rhodescholar]

One has to remember the barbarism in Syria that Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have financed. Called ISIS and al Nusra Front and FSA who work with AQ. All because the Sunni states want to overthrow Assad and we're part of this bloody mess.

You might want to educate yourself, A LOT.

The people of syria did not start using weapons to attack the regime until they were attacked; in 2011 they conducted peaceful marches demanding more freedom and assad the fucking animal bastard responded with alawite militias and conscripted troops to murder them.

Not sure whose payroll you're on, but lying on a public forum on an event barely 5 years old about something so well known crushes your credibility worse than barack "red lines" obama's.

 

[tinydancer]

One has to remember the barbarism in Syria that Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have financed. Called ISIS and al Nusra Front and FSA who work with AQ. All because the Sunni states want to overthrow Assad and we're part of this bloody mess.

You might want to educate yourself, A LOT.

The people of syria did not start using weapons to attack the regime until they were attacked; in 2011 they conducted peaceful marches demanding more freedom and assad the fucking animal bastard responded with alawite militias and conscripted troops to murder them.

Not sure whose payroll you're on, but lying on a public forum on an event barely 5 years old about something so well known crushes your credibility worse than barack "red lines" obama's.

So you are ignorant of the financing of the overthrow?

 

[rhodescholar]

So you are ignorant of the financing of the overthrow?

Lets dispense with the deflective nonsense, shall we? The syrian PEOPLE themselves were marching in the streets, chanting bashar must go. Whether SA or anyone else paid for weapons LATER for the FSA, al nusra, or other anti-assad groups is utterly meaningless. The list of massacres by the SAA and allied militias of unarmed civilians - women and children - at Houla, Baniyas and Latakia, is indisputable, as are the attacks on peaceful demonstrators.

Stop lying, its fucking boring and is not helping your credibility - I do not suffer assad/putin/iran stooges well, so you have been warned.

 

[tinydancer]

Gee they don't seem to have any problem with Erdogan's systematic slaughter of Kurds that is now bordering on genocide.

Odd priorities the UN has.

Does Turkish treatment of the Kurds excuse barbarism in Syria ? What a strange world you live in ?

where did dancer suggest that the barbarism of the filthy Syrian Baathist pigs -----justifies the barbarism of the filthy islamicist Turks. It seems to me that she simply would like to see BOTH atrocities addressed

What barbarism of turks?

The only barbarians are Putin and his dog Ass*ad in the country.

So you would have ISIS completely take over Syria? Is that who you are backing?

So you would have Hezbollah (aka Iran) completely take over Syria?

Oh irosie91 I fear there is no solution when you have Erdogan hell bent for leather continually screwing up attempts at a peace process that would allow all the parties to come together. He refuses to have the Syrian Kurds at the table so nothing can move forward.

 

[rhodescholar]

CIVILIANS chanting against assad:



And some CIVILIAN victims of the bastard murderer assad:



(Houla)


(Baniyas)

 

[tinydancer]

So you are ignorant of the financing of the overthrow?

Lets dispense with the deflective nonsense, shall we? The syrian PEOPLE themselves were marching in the streets, chanting bashar must go. Whether SA or anyone else paid for weapons LATER for the FSA, al nusra, or other anti-assad groups is utterly meaningless. The list of massacres by the SAA and allied militias of unarmed civilians - women and children - at Houla, Baniyas and Latakia, is indisputable, as are the attacks on peaceful demonstrators.

Stop lying, its fucking boring and is not helping your credibility - I do not suffer assad/putin/iran stooges well, so you have been warned.

I've been warned have I?

 

[tinydancer]

CIVILIANS chanting against assad:



And some CIVILIAN victims of the bastard murderer assad:



(Houla)


(Baniyas)

Try this shit on Capitol Hill and guess what would happen?

 

[irosie91]

Does Turkish treatment of the Kurds excuse barbarism in Syria ? What a strange world you live in ?

where did dancer suggest that the barbarism of the filthy Syrian Baathist pigs -----justifies the barbarism of the filthy islamicist Turks. It seems to me that she simply would like to see BOTH atrocities addressed

What barbarism of turks?

The only barbarians are Putin and his dog Ass*ad in the country.

So you would have ISIS completely take over Syria? Is that who you are backing?

So you would have Hezbollah (aka Iran) completely take over Syria?

Oh irosie91 I fear there is no solution when you have Erdogan hell bent for leather continually screwing up attempts at a peace process that would allow all the parties to come together. He refuses to have the Syrian Kurds at the table so nothing can move forward.

Erdogan CONTROLS the people of SYRIA? as to kurds------I have no doubt that you will claim that Iran and Saddam treated their kurds BETTER

 

[Sally]

Gee they don't seem to have any problem with Erdogan's systematic slaughter of Kurds that is now bordering on genocide.

Odd priorities the UN has.

Does Turkish treatment of the Kurds excuse barbarism in Syria ? What a strange world you live in ?

where did dancer suggest that the barbarism of the filthy Syrian Baathist pigs -----justifies the barbarism of the filthy islamicist Turks. It seems to me that she simply would like to see BOTH atrocities addressed

What barbarism of turks?

The only barbarians are Putin and his dog Ass*ad in the country.

So you would have ISIS completely take over Syria? Is that who you are backing?

you seem to be giving a pass to the barbarism of ASSAD and you seem
to support a take over of Syria by elements allied to Iran------(like assad)
Try to remember-----ALL sides are romping in blood. Assad as "stable"
guy is something like ----good strong leader---Saddam Hussein

All along it appears that she thinks Assad is the Cat's Meow who could do no wrong. I think everyone here knows that there are a bunch of bad guys over there including Assad who is no different from the other strongmen ruling countries in the region.. Perhaps she should talk to Aris who comes from that area and who knows the Assads in person to get her opinion. Closer to her home, she can ask some of the new refugees in Canada what they think of the Assad regime.

 

[Sally]

Sally, et al,

I have been reading these reports for about a year. I'm not impressed with them, but then, I'm not there and must temper my criticism.

You just linked me to Al Jazeera for this special report. Do you understand that Qatar owns AJ and that Qatar has been trying to overthrow Assad for years.

There is no civil war. Never was. Just a plan devised to overthrow Assad and hand over the state to the Muslim Brotherhood.

You just linked me to Al Jazeera for this special report. Do you understand that Qatar owns AJ and that Qatar has been trying to overthrow Assad for years.

There is no civil war. Never was. Just a plan devised to overthrow Assad and hand over the state to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Did you ever think to Google to see what other media were reporting on the UN report?

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A/HRC/31/CRP.1
Human Rights Council
Thirty-first session
Agenda item 4
• Human rights situations that require the Council’s attention

Out of Sight, Out of Mind: Deaths in Detention in the Syrian Arab Republic*​

(COMMENT)

What you should keep in mind is that these HUMAN RIGHTS activist and HUMANITARIAN advisors generally have a tendency to over dramatize their finds to the point that their narrative is hard to judge in terms of magnitude. In this case, the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic (IICI-SAR) is a ancillary element of the UN Human Rights - Officer of the High Commissioner.

In this report they accuse all the opposing parties with committing the crimes against humanity of extermination, murder, rape or other forms of sexual violence, torture, imprisonment, mass executions, and committing war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, and torture. All this by government forces, anti-government forces, Jabhat Al-Nusra, and --- of course --- DAESH. While there is probably some truth in these observations, I no longer consider the Human Rights and Humanitarian activities as anything other than immature open-source collection of tabloid quality. While from the report, we gleen no real sense of the magnitude of the types and kinds of violations, it is reasonable to assume the the UN has witness statements that recount DAESH and Al-Sham, holding a large an unknown number of detainees for extended periods (various locations reported but unconfirmed), using torture techniques and conducting summary executions.

Having said that, these very same Human Rights and Humanitarian activities, as well as other Arab external observers, use this same language in describing the Israelis. This reduces the credibility of the overall report. The viability of the report rest in the Recommendation § X for which it lists a whole series of actions that will not be considered by any of the Arab Parties to the conflict.

While I have often recommended that Report, Inquiries, Observations and Inquiries that I don't necessarily agree with should be read for consideration, I see absolutely no redeeming qualities in this report.

Most Respectfully,
R

I agree, Rocco, that both sides have committed horrendous atrocities. This, however, doesn't mean that Syria is not guilty of exterminating its prisoners. We have become aware of those horrible torture pictures so I wouldn't put it past the Assad regimes to start exterminating people. I remember once on a forum there was a man who served in the German Army. Otto said that he was treated so nicely as a Prisoner of War by the Americans that he decided he wanted to live here and be an American.. I just can't see the prisoners taken by either side saying this.