UN calls on Israel to lift Gaza blockade

[toastman]

Good question. Has anyone defined, exactly, where this Israel is that they should recognize.

You're raising that old disagreement about Israel's formal borders again?
It does seem like elite Jews have kept their official boundary lines at least as opaque as their nuclear capabilities since it's much easier to extend Greater Israel as far north as the Litani river in Lebanon if you don't have any pesky official borders to worry about.

The legal possession of land automatically defines borders.

Link ?

 

[Billo_Really]

They could have all the materials they wanted, if they would stop building rockets yo shoot into Israel. Peaceful means they get stuff. warlike they do without.

You don't build rockets out of concrete.

 

[Kondor3]

They could have all the materials they wanted, if they would stop building rockets yo shoot into Israel. Peaceful means they get stuff. warlike they do without.

You don't build rockets out of concrete.

Correct.

You build reinforced rocket-launching platforms with concrete.

You build pillboxes and fortified operational militia bases with concrete.

You line the walls of tunnels (to Egypt, and Israel) with concrete.

Unless somebody turns off the faucet and stops you from getting more concrete.

 

[Billo_Really]

Sure. Why not? Now, can we get back to discussing the Gaza Blockade, if that's OK with you?

That's fine with me!

The "blockade", is a war crime.

 

[Billo_Really]

Correct.

You build reinforced rocket-launching platforms with concrete.

You build pillboxes and fortified operational militia bases with concrete.

You line the walls of tunnels (to Egypt, and Israel) with concrete.

Unless somebody turns off the faucet and stops you from getting more concrete.

What's wrong with that?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

 

[Kondor3]

Sure. Why not? Now, can we get back to discussing the Gaza Blockade, if that's OK with you?

That's fine with me! The "blockade", is a war crime.

That's nice.

That and $2.00 will get you a medium-sized cup of coffee at a Starbucks.

Now, all you need to do is to make your opinion operative at-law.

After that, all you need to do is to ENFORCE your operative legal opinion.

Good luck with both, but especially that last bit.

 

[Billo_Really]

That's nice.

That and $2.00 will get you a medium-sized cup of coffee at a Starbucks.

Now, all you need to do is to make your opinion operative at-law.

After that, all you need to do is to ENFORCE your operative legal opinion.

Good luck with both, but especially that last bit.

The blockade punishes all 1.5 million Gazan's.

That is considered "collective punishment".

Collective punishment is a war crime.

 

[docmauser1]

The blockade punishes all 1.5 million Gazan's. That is considered "collective punishment". Collective punishment is a war crime.

Any fresh drivel?

 

[docmauser1]

Good question. Has anyone defined, exactly, where this Israel is that they should recognize.

If palistanians don't recognize Israel, what's that they want to grab then?

 

[docmauser1]

You're raising that old disagreement about Israel's formal borders again?

It's so drivel, isn't it?

 

[Kondor3]

"...Collective punishment is a war crime."

Like I said... that and $2.00 will get you a cup of house-blend at Starbucks. Translation: now you need to enforce your opinion.

 

[Billo_Really]

"...Collective punishment is a war crime."

Like I said... that and $2.00 will get you a cup of house-blend at Starbucks. Translation: now you need to enforce your opinion.

I'm not a coffee drinker and you're not an American, are you?

 

[Kondor3]

"...I'm not a coffee drinker..."

Like I care.

"...and you're not an American, are you?"

Far more than you.

 

[Billo_Really]

Like I care.

You cared enough to offer me a cup of joe.

Far more than you.

Maybe in your alternate universe, but on this planet, American's created a country 200 years ago that is based on the rule of law. One of our core values is respect for the law. That's one of the things that made this country great and separated it from the rest.

In contrast, people who have no respect for the law, do not embrace American values and as such, may be citizens, but they're definitely not American's in spirit.

 

[toastman]

Like I care.

You cared enough to offer me a cup of joe.

Far more than you.

Maybe in your alternate universe, but on this planet, American's created a country 200 years ago that is based on the rule of law. One of our core values is respect for the law. That's one of the things that made this country great and separated it from the rest.

In contrast, people who have no respect for the law, do not embrace American values and as such, may be citizens, but they're definitely not American's in spirit.

 

[Billo_Really]

You keep that up you'll go blind.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Maybe in your alternate universe, but on this planet, American's created a country 200 years ago that is based on the rule of law. One of our core values is respect for the law. That's one of the things that made this country great and separated it from the rest..."

Indeed.

And I have the greatest respect for the laws of the United States and share every citizens concern over the way in which these are applied within our own jurisdiction.

I was (and am) so committed to the United States and its laws and popular governance that my adult service began by volunteering to serve in its Armed Forces during wartime and it continued in various other ways after leaving the service.

"...In contrast, people who have no respect for the law, do not embrace American values and as such, may be citizens, but they're definitely not American's in spirit."

Indeed. Any American citizen who does not support the rule of law within the United States and the equitable application of law throughout our jurisdiction is not a countryman that I wish to call my own.

 

[Kondor3]

Like I care.

You cared enough to offer me a cup of joe...

No.

The point you made, plus $2.00, would buy you a cup of coffee.

Translation: the point was worthless.

 

[Billo_Really]

No.

The point you made, plus $2.00, would buy you a cup of coffee.

Translation: the point was worthless.

Okay, have it your way.

You cared enough to "suggest" me a cup of joe.

 

[Billo_Really]

Indeed.

And I have the greatest respect for the laws of the United States and share every citizens concern over the way in which these are applied within our own jurisdiction.

I was (and am) so committed to the United States and its laws and popular governance that my adult service began by volunteering to serve in its Armed Forces during wartime and it continued in various other ways after leaving the service.


Indeed. Any American citizen who does not support the rule of law within the United States and the equitable application of law throughout our jurisdiction is not a countryman that I wish to call my own.

Respecting "only" the laws within the United States, but not supporting the laws we co-write in the international arena, is not really supporting the concept of the "rule of law" at all.

You either respect the law, or you don't. There's no "I respect it over here, but I don't over there". That's just a bunch of crap! That's like saying to someone, "I love you when we're here, but I don't love you when we're there!"

Another one of our values is that "all men are created equal"; but in your America, it's "all men (who reside in the Continental United States) are created equal. All other men can go **** themselves".