- Jan 3, 2021
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or probably Obamano, there are no Russian troops and yes, there are Russian volunteers/mercenaries just like there are American and European mercenaries on the other sidemersenarues can be found everywhere,
there are no less American and European mersenaries in Ukrainian army
Italy has for the first-time arrested nationals who fought with pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine.www.google.ru
besides, Western press lies in this regard too, I recall a case when in the US ( or Italy?) local Nazis were arrested, the ones which fought on Ukrainian side - but Reuters and American media presented them as Russian-supported Nazis fighting against Ukraine.
Remember, when Nazis are concerned - it is always on US/EU/Ukrainian side
So you've gone from no Russians, to Russians in Ukraine.
And no doubt they're organized by Putin. The ones in Syria are, so why not the Ukraine?
I don't remember such an incident as I don't pay too much attention to news from the Ukraine. Perhaps you could back up your argument.
Now the big question is, is the mercenaries' boss Putin? Probably yes.
Putin stands to gain a lot. He wanted the Crimea, this conflict weakens a neighboring country, it gets Putin that prestige he wants.
In Ukraine it was started by Obama, went through Trump to Biden, though members of Nazi paramilitary organizations may have been trained by Western intelligence services even before Obama's term.
And it was not "Putin wanted Crimea", a new Ukrainian Nazi regime's first move after the coup was ban on Russian language as the 2nd language in regions with Russian speaking majority, it led to mass protests in Eastern and Southern part of the country and civil war. Putchists managed to suppress protests with use of the army and Nazi death squads ( in Odessa they burnt dozens of opposition members alive).
But in Crimea and Donbas (Donetsk basin) Nazis failed. In Crimea Russia prevented genocide and secured the right of Crimeans to held referendum, in Donbass civil war still goes on. Ukrainian army is shelling civilian areas daily and seem to be oreparing another assault.
So, Obama started a conflict in the Ukraine which gave RUSSIA the Crimea. The Crimea, the place where Russia has it's only winter port, that it had to pay the Ukrainians for. The place they decided was still theirs even though it was a part of the Ukraine since 1954.
That makes no sense. Obama gained nothing from the conflict. Putin is the only one who gained.
And the Ukrainians didn't have a Nazi regime.
Try talking about this issue sensibly. I'm not going to be impacted by your fake nonsense.
if German authorities employ Nazis to kill opposition activists, if Ministry of internal affairs employ Nazi battalions to become a part of Ministry's structure, if Berlin municipality names Berlin stadium after Hitler -
wouldn't this German regime be Nazi for you?
or you are a, Nazi advocate which doesn't recognize any Nazi as a Nazi?
and Obama got the rest of Ukraine which became a US base and a dry wood in agression against Russia.
The Ukraine is a US base? Since when?
And you need to make your point about Nazis.
since a state coup in 2014
as fou Ukraine being Nazi -
Nazis are the most anti-Russian political force in Ukraine, therefore the US and the EU secret services used them to organize street riots and then a coup in 2014 to remove an elected president Yanukovich.
Then - the army was in ruins after 23 years of typical Ukrainian corruption and neglect, officers stole and sold to Africa etc. most weapons from huge Soviet storages held in Ukraine's teritory. So new power needed someone to suppress opponents and dissidents, which were many, because extreme nationalists (still not Nazis, but sympathisers) who came to power in 2014, in their first move banned Russian language as a regional one in a country which is predoominantly Russian speaking, it started pritests and later civil war in Eastern and Southern Ukraine.
So, new government used Nazi volunteers to hunt and kill oponents, in Odessa for example Nazis chased and burnt alive several dozens of Russian activists - with coordination with Internal minister Avakov.
Then, after civil war started, the government formed volunteer Nazi battalions, most renowned of them were Azov, Donbass etc, which terrorized local Russian speaking population and fought separatists - because the army was reluctant to fight civilians.
Then, after ceasefire these Nazi battalions became a part of troops of Ministry of interior, headed by an oligarkh Avakov.
Now not Ministry of interior only, but also SBU (secret service) and several other oligarkhs have pocket Nazi battalions, because Nazis are the most equipped, most motivated, ready to kill and are able to illegally kill since they are a sacred cow of every regime since 2014.
Nazis are widely used in inter - oligarchic struggle for power, for suppression of discent, for repressions against opposition ( recently president of Ukraine illegally closed 4 opposition TV channels - Nazis traditionally made a couple of pogroms in them).
and so on, but to rely on then the power has to gradually shift farer and farer into Nazism.
Along with Nazi battalions glorification of Nazism goes on in Ukraine, streets and stadiums are named after WWII Nazi criminals Shukhevich and Bandera etc, which fought USSR but who are also responsible for genocide against hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Gipcies, Russians etc. .
Ukrainian state underlines its ties with WWII Nazi movement on official level, SS division Galichina (equipped with Ukrainian collaborators) veterans are praised and cherished.
Along with that government policy is getting more and more racist, Russians (20% of population of Ukraine) and Russian speakers (>50% of population) are denied the right to use Russian language in increasing number of spheres, now it is banned in services, you can't use it in shops and restaurants, earlier it was almost eradicated in education (except in first classes, just because most people still speak Russian as mother language) .
plus there are 2 states in the World which oppose UN resulutions condemning glorification of Nazism.
Guess which ones... - Ukraine and the US
Any evidence the US has been using the Ukraine as a base since 2014?
The infographic reveals for the first time that the U.S. is now operating in 40 percent of the world's nationswww.smithsonianmag.com
This map has no US troops in the Ukraine as of two years ago.
And it seems like your definition of "Nazi" is "anti-Russian".
lol, frigidweirdo, do you speak English?
I said more than once I didn't say the US has bases in Ukraine, I said the Ukraine is a military asset of the US which it can command, virtually the whole Ukraine is a US base.
And you have evidence that the US says jump and the Ukrainian military jumps? Why hasn't the US done more then? It could have kicked the Russians out of the Ukraine with ease.
lol, you can turn to your president, he will tell you how he fired general prosecutor of Ukraine
generally the US doesn't just give orders, it appoints Ukrainian prime ministers, ministers etc.
just yesterday US defence secretary assured Ukraine that the US will back any military action of Ukraine against Russia.
i. e. it means giving green light for Ukrainian assault against Donbass republics, which will inevitably evolve into Ukraine-Russia war since we have 400 000 Russian citizens there and we are not going to allow another NATO style (in Croatia against Serbians) ethnic cleansing.
and which will probably evolve into Rusia-NATO war, probably nuclear