Ukraine turns up nose to A-10 offer ..

[Missourian]

A-10s are effin' awesome and we don't have enough of them as it is...so I for one am very pleased that Ukraine snubbed the U.S. offer to supply them with the battle tested aircraft...

Ukraine Says It Needs ‘Fast and Versatile’ Aircraft, Not the A-10 | Air & Space Forces Magazine

U.S. Air Force leaders weighed in on fighter aircraft to Ukraine, but they may be suggesting the wrong platform, said a Ukrainian official.

www.airforcemag.com

 

[JustAGuy1]

They are indeed a prized commodity.

 

[Missourian]

 

[MarathonMike]

Maybe they don't have pilots who can fly them. A-10s could turn a Russian tank column into scrap metal within a few minutes.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Love the A-10!!!
I was pissed when they talked about getting rid of it!
If anything they should consider building a new version.

 

[Dekster]

They can hold out for F-16's til the cows come home. I just have trouble seeing the Congress approve that kind of money at $80M a pop, for birds that very well could end up in Russian hands before it is over.

 

[1srelluc]

Maybe they don't have pilots who can fly them. A-10s could turn a Russian tank column into scrap metal within a few minutes.

And a first world air defense could turn the A-10 into scrap.

Burrrrrrt is fine against a forth world enemy, not so much against others.

 

[Sunni Man]

There are so many Stinger type shoulder fired ground to air missiles possessed by the Russians throughout Ukraine.
The low and slow A-10's would be easy prey to shoot down.

 

[miketx]

Maybe they don't have pilots who can fly them. A-10s could turn a Russian tank column into scrap metal within a few minutes.

That would be worth the training.

 

[1srelluc]

There are so many Stinger and other shoulder fired ground to air missiles possessed by the Russians throughout Ukraine.
That the low and slow A-10's would be easy prey to shoot down.

Given how rich the cartels are now and the A to A MANPAD weapons available to them on the ever expanding black market I don't know if the A-10 would survive trying to shoot them up.....Not for long I don't figure.

 

[ReinyDays]

... the U.S. offer to supply them with the battle tested aircraft ...

What battles would that be? ...

Ukraine doesn't have the military infrastructure to handle A-10s ... more than just pilots, it's maintenance crews, supply chains ... bullets ... NATO Nations have all this, Warsaw Bloc Nations don't ... Ukraine needs MiGs ... and guns that shoot Warsaw Bloc ammo ...

 

[JustAGuy1]

The Ukraine needs to admit they've lost.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

it's a lost cause
we should not be sending them anything more than the europeans are sending them
if the europeans will not spend their money or send their men, why should we

 

[Natural Citizen]

They can hold out for F-16's til the cows come home. I just have trouble seeing the Congress approve that kind of money at $80M a pop, for birds that very well could end up in Russian hands before it is over.

They don't care about American prosperity. In fact, they've done just about everything they can think of to act antithetical to the very notion. They've a vested interest in keeping this going as long as they can.

Most Republicans in DC are controlled opposition anyway.

Nope. You'll pay for it. Just like everything else.

 

[Dekster]

And a first world air defense could turn the A-10 into scrap.

Burrrrrrt is fine against a forth world enemy, not so much against others.

Not sure the top line russian systems are in Ukraine. Sure the Ukrainians have claimed that our HIMARS have defeated their S-400's but I am a tad skeptical.

Anyway, my spidey sense is Ukraine is trying to sucker us into putting troops on the ground to "help" them with their American aircraft and then throw us down the slippery slope of having to take on the Russians for them. I don't trust them. They are conniving little Russian lites.

 

[fncceo]

A-10 ... when you care enough to send the very best.

 

[toomuchtime_]

A-10s are effin' awesome and we don't have enough of them as it is...so I for one am very pleased that Ukraine snubbed the U.S. offer to supply them with the battle tested aircraft...

Ukraine Says It Needs ‘Fast and Versatile’ Aircraft, Not the A-10 | Air & Space Forces Magazine

U.S. Air Force leaders weighed in on fighter aircraft to Ukraine, but they may be suggesting the wrong platform, said a Ukrainian official.

www.airforcemag.com

A-10's primarily provide close ground support for troops and they are great if you have command of the skies, which the US always does, but they are no match for faster fighter jets if you don't command the skies. Ukraine needs to stop the missiles from Russian planes, ships and mobile launchers and it needs fighter planes to do that. If Ukraine can get control of these missiles, UA ground forces appear to be more than a match for Russian ground forces.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Not sure the top line russian systems are in Ukraine. Sure the Ukrainians have claimed that our HIMARS have defeated their S-400's but I am a tad skeptical.

Anyway, my spidey sense is Ukraine is trying to sucker us into putting troops on the ground to "help" them with their American aircraft and then throw us down the slippery slope of having to take on the Russians for them. I don't trust them. They are conniving little Russian lites.

Americans are very likey already on the ground there.

 

[Sunni Man]

The U.S. and EU are starting to figure out they've backed the loosing side.
Basically, a bottomless money pit with no easy way to exit.

 

[odanny]

A-10's primarily provide close ground support for troops and they are great if you have command of the skies, which the US always does, but they are no match for faster fighter jets if you don't command the skies. Ukraine needs to stop the missiles from Russian planes, ships and mobile launchers and it needs fighter planes to do that. If Ukraine can get control of these missiles, UA ground forces appear to be more than a match for Russian ground forces.

Exactly.